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I don't see a thread out there so I'll get this going. Not a good start for Silver

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Individual prop bets are set up for this type of fraud. Even point shaving cannot guarantee a win. But betting the under on an individual prop bet is totally under the player's control so it is so easy to accomplish.
 
The billips business is poker related . I just don’t care even a little bit if people want to bet whatever on poker. There is no insinuation of anything that would call into question his coaching integrity
They are claiming it was rigged poker games. Does not sound NBA related but the dude is in major trouble.
 
Yeah, I think this is bad.

I know many consider gambling to be a fun hobby, but the proliferation of online gambling is a net negative for society and has been harmful to a lot of people.

I enjoy gambling and I’m lucky enough that I do make enough money and have the restraint to do it “responsibly” but it’s hard to argue with you on the whole.

That said this billups thing seems to be less that and more he’s mobbed up or something? (Also bad!)
 
OKC has a bit of that dynasty feel to them.
I still wonder if the salary apron eventually gets to them but that might be the only thing that can save the rest of the league. They've done a great job of stacking draft picks which helps a ton, but it'll be extremely difficult to maintain their depth once they're paying SGA, Jalen, and Chet $150 million per year instead of the $58 million they currently pay.
 
I enjoy gambling and I’m lucky enough that I do make enough money and have the restraint to do it “responsibly” but it’s hard to argue with you on the whole.

That said this billups thing seems to be less that and more he’s mobbed up or something? (Also bad!)
It’s naive though to believe that gambling isn’t prone to outside influences, gaming the system with the hope that one’s greed pays despite the known realistic odds of winning.
 
Eh, its more like 4 years. In 2021 they played the eventual champions to a standstill and win the series if his foot isnt on the line. He averaged 35-10-5 in that series and went for 48-9-6 in game 7 without Kyrie and with a Harden who was barely mobile with a hamstring injury. He was pretty damn great
I always love this argument. Just as likely that if his foot isn't on the line, they lose in regulation because the shot no longer goes in.
 
The last few years have me thinking of Durant's career in a much less flattering light.
Yes, he gets his points, but his time with the Nets, the Suns - that's the last SIX years of his career that have gone nowhere. How great is he, really?
I get it, but I also just think his body has slowed down a lot in recent years. It hasn't impacted his scoring numbers a ton because he's one of the great shooters of all-time, but his ability to get to the rim basically evaporated and he went from being a legitimately impactful defender to mostly floating and every once in awhile making a play.
 
Oof. Hope Jerami wasn't involved. He, Dame, Nurkic and Simons were among those who sat the game in question.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Every GM in the league would have made that trade for George at the time.
Yeah it was a perfectly fine trade at the time, especially given the fact that it also netted you Kawhi.

Everyone liked SGA as a prospect back then, but more in a glue guy, always in the right place at the right time kind of way. I don't think anybody saw him developing into one of the best players in the league.
 
I always love this argument. Just as likely that if his foot isn't on the line, they lose in regulation because the shot no longer goes in.
Fair enough but if I recall it was barely on the line no? Like if the shoe is just a bit smaller.

But anyway the main point remains they played the champions to a standstill. They were a very good team that year.
 
Yeah, I think this is bad.

I know many consider gambling to be a fun hobby, but the proliferation of online gambling is a net negative for society and has been harmful to a lot of people.
One of my most hypocritical views: I bet on sports all the time, love a trip to the casino. Hate that it's all legal/especially hate that we are constantly bombarded with ads/have the ability to bet at our fingertips.

At minimum IMO, gambling should be treated like cigarettes re: advertisements. And if we went back to just straight up banning it and forcing people to find illegal ways to place bets, I would be totally fine with it. As much as I enjoy partaking, I think it's fairly obvious that it's bad for society.
 
They are claiming it was rigged poker games. Does not sound NBA related but the dude is in major trouble.
Rigged poker games ? Ok. So now we’re talking the lowest of the low.
 
One of my most hypocritical views: I bet on sports all the time, love a trip to the casino. Hate that it's all legal/especially hate that we are constantly bombarded with ads/have the ability to bet at our fingertips.

At minimum IMO, gambling should be treated like cigarettes re: advertisements. And if we went back to just straight up banning it and forcing people to find illegal ways to place bets, I would be totally fine with it. As much as I enjoy partaking, I think it's fairly obvious that it's bad for society.
Yes. At absolute minimum, teams and leagues should've been prohibited off the rip from partnering with gambling sites because of the clear conflicts of interest. It's less of an integrity issue with media rights partners but just tacky as hell, and that was before the proliferation of ads between pitches and free throw attempts.

And from the players' perspective it's clear that better education is needed. Antoine Walker bled his entire fortune in months because he was so emotionally immature about needing to have the best car, wardrobe and house. But a lot of other players feel a real need to pass their fortune to the relatives and people who sacrificed for them, which is well-intentioned, but they struggle to draw a line. It's not the fourth and fifth cars they buy for themselves, but the houses and cars they get for the people from their childhoods.
 
One of my most hypocritical views: I bet on sports all the time, love a trip to the casino. Hate that it's all legal/especially hate that we are constantly bombarded with ads/have the ability to bet at our fingertips.

At minimum IMO, gambling should be treated like cigarettes re: advertisements. And if we went back to just straight up banning it and forcing people to find illegal ways to place bets, I would be totally fine with it. As much as I enjoy partaking, I think it's fairly obvious that it's bad for society.

There is a certain percentage of the population that are simply unable to control their gambling habits and those people will lose everything and families will be devastated.

It’s very similar to drug use. There are certain drugs that in moderation can be benign or even beneficial yet in excess will kill you.

As a society we make decisions to essentially save people from themselves . Where is the line? Well we just pick a spot and draw it. Sports betting needs that line drawn
 
Yeah it was a perfectly fine trade at the time, especially given the fact that it also netted you Kawhi.

Everyone liked SGA as a prospect back then, but more in a glue guy, always in the right place at the right time kind of way. I don't think anybody saw him developing into one of the best players in the league.

Another one of those calipari guards that ends up way better in the pros.

That 2018 draft is really incredible, should go down with 84/96/03. Luka, SGA, Brunson, Trae, both bridges. Jaren Jackson.
 
I enjoy gambling and I’m lucky enough that I do make enough money and have the restraint to do it “responsibly” but it’s hard to argue with you on the whole.

That said this billups thing seems to be less that and more he’s mobbed up or something? (Also bad!)
One of my most hypocritical views: I bet on sports all the time, love a trip to the casino. Hate that it's all legal/especially hate that we are constantly bombarded with ads/have the ability to bet at our fingertips.

At minimum IMO, gambling should be treated like cigarettes re: advertisements. And if we went back to just straight up banning it and forcing people to find illegal ways to place bets, I would be totally fine with it. As much as I enjoy partaking, I think it's fairly obvious that it's bad for society.
I get it. It's totally fine and not detrimental for some folks. The costs are just really high overall.

I actually think that's where the tech gets us in trouble. Back in the day when gambling meant hitting a casino in Vegas, Atlantic City, an out of the way reservation or something the barrier to get into a potentially destructive situation was pretty high. It's not that it couldn't still be harmful, there was just some protection in how intentional a person had to be to get into the situation.

Now, when it's sitting on a person's phone?

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Individual prop bets are set up for this type of fraud. Even point shaving cannot guarantee a win. But betting the under on an individual prop bet is totally under the player's control so it is so easy to accomplish.
Like the Cleveland pitchers throwing a first pitch ball. Easy to guarantee that
 
There is a certain percentage of the population that are simply unable to control their gambling habits and those people will lose everything and families will be devastated.

It’s very similar to drug use. There are certain drugs that in moderation can be benign or even beneficial yet in excess will kill you.

As a society we make decisions to essentially save people from themselves . Where is the line? Well we just pick a spot and draw it. Sports betting needs that line drawn
That line's been drawn. Too much money in play now. It would take a radical change to redraw the line.

What's wild about this is it's not like there was uncertainty about what would happen. It was understood that this would be harmful. But, hey, people have their rights I guess, even when the right is to drive oneself off a cliff. And there are plenty of people with no qualms profiting off of that instinct.
 
Another one of those calipari guards that ends up way better in the pros.

That 2018 draft is really incredible, should go down with 84/96/03. Luka, SGA, Brunson, Trae, both bridges. Jaren Jackson.
Even beyond the stars, so many useful players (at least for a time) came out of that draft: Ayton, Wendell Carter, Sexton, MPJ, DiVincenzo, Huerter, Grayson Allen, Simons, Mo Wagner, Mitch Robinson, Gary Trent, Vanderbilt, Bruce Brown...
 
I get it. It's totally fine and not detrimental for some folks. The costs are just really high overall.

I actually think that's where the tech gets us in trouble. Back in the day when gambling meant hitting a casino in Vegas, Atlantic City, an out of the way reservation or something the barrier to get into a potentially destructive situation was pretty high. It's not that it couldn't still be harmful, there was just some protection in how intentional a person had to be to get into the situation.

Now, when it's sitting on a person's phone?

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I knew it was going to be a disaster from the minute I heard it might be legalized. What really gets me riled up are the celebrity endorsers like Jamie Fox and the mannings who have more money than they’ll ever need schilling for these companies . They know they are just encouraging people to give away their money to the giant corporations because the house always wins in the long run
 
Even beyond the stars, so many useful players (at least for a time) came out of that draft: Ayton, Wendell Carter, Sexton, MPJ, DiVincenzo, Huerter, Grayson Allen, Simons, Mo Wagner, Mitch Robinson, Gary Trent, Vanderbilt, Bruce Brown...
Dang, yeah. There's a lot of production from that draft class.
 

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