$60m 4year bowl ban

[NailstheCusefan12]

These santions are NOT a slap on the wris, and they won't be easily circumvented. The NCAA is essentially setting up a satellite office inside the PSU athletic Department. I think some wanted to see people hung from the gallows at high noon.

Would anyone have been opposed to seeing Sandusky hang? Then again, life in prison with the charges he has against him is worse than death, but still not as bad as what he did to his victims.

 

[GoSU96]

These santions are NOT a slap on the wris, and they won't be easily circumvented. The NCAA is essentially setting up a satellite office inside the PSU athletic Department. I think some wanted to see people hung from the gallows at high noon.

Exactly

 

[tipphill]

i have not yet read this thread, but it should have been a 3yr death penalty with the fine---thats it. the ncaa will never be able to issue the death penalty again if they did not find this incident to be devastating enough to do it. i believe they wimped out here and the rest is bullshit. do not tell me about the innocent victims in the happy valley economy, as thst is not the concern of the ncaa. when companies close because of ceo and others dishonesty,there is always collateral damage to the good employees,this would be no different

 

[GoSU96]

It's not a matter of making sure the sanctions can't be circumvented; I'm sure the NCAA's satellite office will monitor compliance appropriately. The sanctions are a slap on the wrist because they do little to re-calibrate the culture (as stated by the NCAA).

I wasn't looking for public lynchings; just a tv ban to match their loss of revenue, postseason ban and reduced scholarships.

The consent decree that PSU agreed to includes an NCAA appointed independent auditor resident within the AD with free access to everything within the depart. If PSU doesn't implement the proscribed changes, they may be subject to the death penalty.

 

[GoSU96]

i have not yet read this thread, but it should have been a 3yr death penalty with the fine---thats it. the ncaa will never be able to issue the death penalty again if they did not find this incident to be devastating enough to do it. i believe they wimped out here and the rest is bullshit. do not tell me about the innocent victims in the happy valley economy, as thst is not the concern of the ncaa. when companies close because of ceo and others dishonesty,there is always collateral damage to the good employees,this would be no different

The NCAA is only able to suspend programs if they are already under sanction.

Read the sanctions statement.

 

[Knicks411]

My god, in 2004 Sandusky took a young boy to the PedSt bowl game and raped him in the TEAM hotel. Was there not one single member of the PedSt traveling party that said..."Jerry, why the fluck do you have a 10 yeard old with you"?

See, this is what I REALLY don't get.

Let's say Paterno, Curley, etc did everything they could have in 2001. They called the police, told them what they saw, etc. I don't believe for a second they did all they could, but whatever.

How on earth do you let this guy bring kids with him on a Penn State sanctioned trip? Not only did they not follow through and report the guy, they ENABLED him!!! It's probably a whole lot easier to gain the trust of a kid when you can take him on cool trips like Penn State bowl game trips.

Even the Catholic Church, which has a pretty bad record on this type of thing, would send the priest to another parish. (And let's be clear, I am not saying they should've done that; I think we all know what they should have done. But they freaking enabled the guy!)

 

[ithacat]

With that loss of revenue and power, the tail will no longer be able to wag the dog at PSU...

Football will never be quite the same at PSU...

The revenue loss is approximately one year's worth; I wouldn't be surprised if they've already raised that amount in donations. Terry Pegula gave 88m to start a hockey program.

As for the last part, I'll believe it when I see it. I hope you're right, for the sake of the community and the school.

 

[007]

The revenue loss is approximately one year's worth; I wouldn't be surprised if they've already raised that amount in donations. Terry Pegula gave 88m to start a hockey program.

As for the last part, I'll believe it when I see it. I hope you're right, for the sake of the community and the school.

People need to keep in mind that, as part of the consent decree, the NCAA ordered PSU to implement all the recommendations outlined in the Freeh report. All of them.

Those measures are substantial and will change the culture and the power of the football program.

 

[Scooch]

Seeing the reaction of PSU students while the sanctions were being announced is reason enough to nuke the program forever.

 

[Bortukal]

Seeing the reaction of PSU students while the sanctions were being announced is reason enough to nuke the program forever.

Looked like the footage of people watching the Challenger disaster.

 

[rrlbees]

Seeing the reaction of PSU students while the sanctions were being announced is reason enough to nuke the program forever.

When I saw that, I wondered if they shed a tear when they found out their University and their HC had allowed countless boys to be raped.

 

[ForCuseSake]

The consent decree that PSU agreed to includes an NCAA appointed independent auditor resident within the AD with free access to everything within the depart. If PSU doesn't implement the proscribed changes, they may be subject to the death penalty.

It's a little naive to think the NCAA appointed auditor will have free access to everything in the athletics department. I'm not one for conspiracy theory but keeping auditors ignorant to an organization's true level of compliance is something that cuts across all industries/sectors. And given the level of dissatisfaction already being expressed by PSU trustees I'll be pleasantly surprised if the current administration is kept around long enough to transform the culture. Again, I just don't see it happening w/ so many influential stakeholders clinging to the culture that put them in their current state.

 

[Whitey23]

Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship Statement

Time and space prevent me from outlining that which you already know - your organization is wholly
without power to sanction the University for the events related to the above. It is beyond comprehension
how the NCAA can possibly believe it has the power to control events that do not violate NCAA rules,
nor how the NCAA can issue punishment without ever even launching an investigation in accordance
with your own rules. However, we can, at this point, agree to disagree on that issue, though you can be
most certain that the issue will be addressed.

 

[rrlbees]

Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship Statement

Time and space prevent me from outlining that which you already know - your organization is wholly
without power to sanction the University for the events related to the above. It is beyond comprehension
how the NCAA can possibly believe it has the power to control events that do not violate NCAA rules,
nor how the NCAA can issue punishment without ever even launching an investigation in accordance
with your own rules. However, we can, at this point, agree to disagree on that issue, though you can be
most certain that the issue will be addressed.

More idiots that don't read the specific paragraphs that Emmert cited several times since last Novemeber that applied and that the NCAA's own rules allow the sanctions to be handed down with an investigation per se. I'm willing to bet the NCAA had a lot more info that what was in the Freeh report.

 

[orange79]

Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship Statement

Time and space prevent me from outlining that which you already know - your organization is wholly
without power to sanction the University for the events related to the above. It is beyond comprehension
how the NCAA can possibly believe it has the power to control events that do not violate NCAA rules,
nor how the NCAA can issue punishment without ever even launching an investigation in accordance
with your own rules. However, we can, at this point, agree to disagree on that issue, though you can be
most certain that the issue will be addressed.

Sounds like a threat to me. SHUT 'EM DOWN! Let's see how they like that.

 

[rrlbees]

Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship Statement

Time and space prevent me from outlining that which you already know - your organization is wholly
without power to sanction the University for the events related to the above. It is beyond comprehension
how the NCAA can possibly believe it has the power to control events that do not violate NCAA rules,
nor how the NCAA can issue punishment without ever even launching an investigation in accordance
with your own rules. However, we can, at this point, agree to disagree on that issue, though you can be
most certain that the issue will be addressed.

Now that I think of it, I hope these guys follow through with their threat to the NCAA. It would probably open an even bigger can of worms. I bet the PedSt admin is on the phone real quick with this organization and their counsel and telling them to cease and desist.

 

[rrlbees]

Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship Statement

Time and space prevent me from outlining that which you already know - your organization is wholly
without power to sanction the University for the events related to the above. It is beyond comprehension
how the NCAA can possibly believe it has the power to control events that do not violate NCAA rules,
nor how the NCAA can issue punishment without ever even launching an investigation in accordance
with your own rules. However, we can, at this point, agree to disagree on that issue, though you can be
most certain that the issue will be addressed.

And, since PedSt signed off on all of it, isn't that akin to "settling out of court", thus rendering all this whining moot?

 

[Bortukal]

Seeing the reaction of PSU students while the sanctions were being announced is reason enough to nuke the program forever.

 

[javadoc]

However, we can, at this point, agree to disagree on that issue, though you can be most certain that the issue will be addressed.

Bring it on. I'd be more than happy to throw some rattlesnakes down into the hole that PedSt dug for itself.

 

[Whitey23]

@PeteThamelNYT
Closing statement by PSU lettermen: "The world is soon to learn the true meaning and depth of the credo that defines us. We are..Penn State"

 

[javadoc]

@PeteThamelNYT
Closing statement by PSU lettermen: "The world is soon to learn the true meaning and depth of the credo that defines us. We are..Ped State"

Corrected. Own it, son.

 

[tipphill]

The NCAA is only able to suspend programs if they are already under sanction.

Read the sanctions statement.

they can issue a death penalty to any school at anytime, they were considering it here and wimped out--period

 

[tipphill]

Seeing the reaction of PSU students while the sanctions were being announced is reason enough to nuke the program forever.

especially one girl that was interviewed called themselves a penn state nation---erily reminded me of the jonestown mentality---not funny but scary

 

[Whitey23]

@MichaelBenny
Even sign referencing #Syracuse via @johnclarknbc10: Signs left today outside site of where Paterno statue was

 

[Scooch]

@MichaelBenny
Even sign referencing #Syracuse via @johnclarknbc10: Signs left today outside site of where Paterno statue was

Odds that the sign-maker originally misspelled "EMMERT"... 100%.