A look ahead to 2022-23: Who’s gone, who’s back and who’s on the way

[OrangeXtreme]

A look ahead to Syracuse’s 2022-23 season: Who’s gone, who’s back, who’s on the way?

There could be a lot of changes on the way for the Syracuse Orange before next season.

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[orangefog]

I have always looked at a 13 man roster like this (I also understand that there is versatility in players that allow them to go between positions), 5 guards, 5 forwards and 3 centers. Just a basic way to look at a roster.

GUARD:
1. JGIII (2,1)
2. Symir (1)
3. Copeland (1)
4. Taylor (2,3)
5.

Forward:
1. Swider (3)
2. Benny (4,3)
3. JBA (4,5)
4. Bunch (3,2)
5. Brown (4)

Center:
1. Jesse (5)
2. Frank (5)
3. Carey (5,4?)

From the looks of this, we have almost a full house. I would love to land Mintz, he would be the number one talent at guard. If anyone leaves, obviously that opens us up for an addition. If JBA leaves, then it would be great to get a portal addition. I would love to see a traditional PF type that can score on the block, rebound and defend. Basically add some toughness and leadership to the roster.

 

[RF2044]

Interesting summary.

I liked what we saw of Symir / Joe. I'm concerned that we might get exploited defensively with those two up tops, but Symir looks like he could be a plus defender.

Not that we substitute much, but we'd have two legit guys behind them in Quadir / Taylor.

At forward, a lot hinges on Benny. I think he's a tweener trending toward a 4. Swider is a tweener trending toward a 3. So I think they could play in tandem.

Edwards hopefully returns, and he is a stud. Might have been the best player on the team this year. Anselem filled in capably after he got injured, and got a ton of PT this season. Will he move on for a guaranteed starting role somewhere else? Or will he stick it out and battle for a starting position?

This might have seemed unfathomable in the past, but... given Edward's offensive flexibility and mobility, could he and Anselem play effectively together? Maybe Edwards shifts to 4 [I don't see Anselem being able to play there in our system].

Bunch and Brown in reserve.

Questions -- what does Mintz do? Do we chase anyone else in the portal? Do we have any offseason attrition that reshapes the roster? What happens if Swider opts to play for pay?

 

[orangefog]

Interesting summary.

I liked what we saw of Symir / Joe. I'm concerned that we might get exploited defensively with those two up tops, but Symir looks like he could be a plus defender.

Not that we substitute much, but we'd have two legit guys behind them in Quadir / Taylor.

At forward, a lot hinges on Benny. I think he's a tweener trending toward a 4. Swider is a tweener trending toward a 3. So I think they could play in tandem.

Edwards hopefully returns, and he is a stud. Might have been the best player on the team this year. Anselem filled in capably after he got injured, and got a ton of PT this season. Will he move on for a guaranteed starting role somewhere else? Or will he stick it out and battle for a starting position?

This might have seemed unfathomable in the past, but... given Edward's offensive flexibility and mobility, could he and Anselem play effectively together? Maybe Edwards shifts to 4 [I don't see Anselem being able to play there in our system].

Bunch and Brown in reserve.

Questions -- what does Mintz do? Do we chase anyone else in the portal? Do we have any offseason attrition that reshapes the roster? What happens if Swider opts to play for pay?

I think that we would be better defensively with that group. You just have to make sure that Joe and Cole aren't on the same side. That way, Symir and Benny, who both seem athletic enough to cover more space, can cover for Joe and Cole. And, Joe and Cole weren't as bad as Buddy and Jimmy, in my opinion. I am not picking on the Boeheim boys, they are both good offensively, but they lack the lateral movement to be plus defenders. Anyway, defense will likely be better, but offense may take a hit. But, having a true point guard may offset the loss of two scorers. Cole sure looked like a number one option a couple times late in the season. I think our true number one option should be Jesse. The offense should run through him. He will almost always get doubled, and if he can make the proper pass out of the double team, our offense could look really good.

 

[Giants1973]

I think Taylor can also play SF.

 

[hoopsupstate]

People need to realize that teams will game plan differently next year with Joe and Symir. I don’t think teams spent much time game planning for Symir. His man can plant himself in the lane to help with Jessie or cheat towards Joe or Cole. Unless Symir is at least a perimeter threat, he can be exploited.

 

[MikeSU02]

We need a PG. All due respect to Joe, Sy and Q, we need a PG.

We desperately need another forward, even if Cole and Benny are back (is JBA coming back?).

I trust zero of the frosh to be able to meaningfully contribute this coming year outside of spot minutes. Just my 0.02.

 

[Giants1973]

People need to realize that teams will game plan differently next year with Joe and Symir. I don’t think teams spent much time game planning for Symir. His man can plant himself in the lane to help with Jessie or cheat towards Joe or Cole. Unless Symir is at least a perimeter threat, he can be exploited.

I hope he works on jumper all off season

 

[Fly Rodder]

Forward:
1. Swider (3)
2. Benny (4,3)
3. JBA (4,5)
4. Bunch (3,2)
5. Brown (4)
Center:
1. Jesse (5)
2. Frank (5)
3. Carey (5,4?)

GUARD:
1. JGIII (2,1)
2. Symir (1)
3. Copeland (1)
4. Taylor (2,3)
5.

Just my guesses. There will be some departures. Perhaps one more.

 

[dasher]

Just my guesses. There will be some departures. Perhaps one more.

I agree. I think the roster will be very different than what we might expect right now. I
think we have to hit the portal for a forward and a guard no matter what Cole and Benny do.
the coaches are high on Brown. He does give us the type of forward we haven't had in years but in no way do I think he will be ready.

 

[721Comstock]

I agree. I think the roster will be very different than what we might expect right now. I
think we have to hit the portal for a forward and a guard no matter what Cole and Benny do.
the coaches are high on Brown. He does give us the type of forward we haven't had in years but in no way do I think he will be ready.

All of this. Agreed 144%.

We will absolutely need a F and a PG from the portal.

Here's hoping JB and staff go beyond "guys we tried to recruit last time around" and are open to finding the BEST available player for each position of need.

 

[orangefog]

I agree. I think the roster will be very different than what we might expect right now. I
think we have to hit the portal for a forward and a guard no matter what Cole and Benny do.
the coaches are high on Brown. He does give us the type of forward we haven't had in years but in no way do I think he will be ready.

I’m going to check out some old City Rock rosters to see who we might be able to get?

 

[Giants1973]

Just my guesses. There will be some departures. Perhaps one more.

That means cuse needs to get 5 players.

 

[tbonezone]

We will absolutely need a F and a PG from the portal.

3 things . absolutely need some beef underneath. this was a weakness all season. need a true point guard who can handle pressure . this was a weakness all season. need a ball gag for jim boeheim post game. this again was a major weakness all season.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I’m going to check out some old City Rock rosters to see who we might be able to get?

Andre Jackson unhappy at UCONN?

 

[Orangezoo]

Hopefully we don't lose 6 or 7 similar to last off season.

 

[Briancuse]

Andre Jackson unhappy at UCONN?

Would you be playing for that pyscho?

 

[miamicuse]

Is JB is serious about playing M2M next year?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Is JB is serious about playing M2M next year?

No.

 

[Manleymen]

Why are many people on the board bullish Cole Swider is coming back? Do you have inside information or wishful thinking? We had a losing record and I just don’t see a lot of upside. His offense is one dimensional. Nice he had a couple high end games. Hot against a jv Florida state squad. We need race horse athletes who can get up and down the court and can beat your man off the dribble. And the ability to cover / press full or half court man or zone. No more remnants of ISO ball please. Time to bring back the dynamic Cuse offense and defense that the top teams in the country utilize to make them threats for a national title.

 

[HyattsCuse]

Is JB is serious about playing M2M next year?

Well JB said we would play "some M2M". Triangle and two has two guys playing M2M and the other 3 playing zone. So some are technically playing M2M

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Why are many people on the board bullish Cole Swider is coming back? Do you have inside information or wishful thinking? We had a losing record and I just don’t see a lot of upside. His offense is one dimensional. Nice he had a couple high end games. Hot against a jv Florida state squad. We need race horse athletes who can get up and down the court and can beat your man off the dribble. And the ability to cover / press full or half court man or zone. No more remnants of ISO ball please. Time to bring back the dynamic Cuse offense and defense that the top teams in the country utilize to make them threats for a national title.

If he doesn't come back, who are you starting at the forwards next season?

 

[LoveShack]

If he doesn't come back, who are you starting at the forwards next season?

No matter who comes or who goes I would like to see an open competition for all postitions and lets have the best players start and play the majority of minutes. I know, wishful thinking on my part

 

[AlaskaSU]

Why assme that Cole will return? 50:50 at best. Why assume that Benny will be an asset rather than a liability? Less than 50% probability. Why assume that any of our frosh bigs will be ready? Very small chance.

 

[CousCuse]

It would be better to go almost exclusively portal players for a team like Syracuse. You have a much better idea of what your going to get with a guy who has played college ball already and once they portal, they can't do it a second time.