ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[Scooch]

Hey Dickey...

If the ACC dissolved, and your precious Duke ended up playing ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane every year, would things matter then?

Dickie V is a national treasure... buy my God this is a turrrrible take.

Have some of these dopes been hibernating before USC and UCLA left for the B1G last year?

 

[tep624]

Dickie V is a national treasure... buy my God this is a turrrrible take.

Have some of these dopes been hibernating before USC and UCLA left for the B1G last year?

Where was Dickie V’s big mouth when the B1G raided USC & UCLA?

 

[tep624]

Yeah it settles things until 2031. All this did was prevent the Big 12 from adding these teams at some point over the next 5 years.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[TheCusian]

This is what cracks me up above all else. The media companies that pay the conferences for rights are taking in anywhere from $5 to $15 BILLION a year, but the schools are fighting a death match over $20-30 million. They're all so incredibly dumb.

Yep. If they all (let's say old P5) banded together they'd have more bargaining power. The media companies like that it's a fractured mess.

 

[Killdozer]

Minus our fake classes

 

[UnknownOrange]

At least Cal and Stanford's Field Hockey teams will be traveling LESS by joining the ACC

 

[Cusefan69]

Wait a SEC. The other guy said UNC put the ACC on "notice ". Why isn't he really saying what is position is? UNC chicken schiiit.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Stern]

Hey Dickey...

If the ACC dissolved, and your precious Duke ended up playing ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane every year, would things matter then?

Hey DickyV...they aren't student-athletes anymore. They have NIL and are paid employees. Sports are their job; it's their major. Part of their job involves travel.

If an athlete doesn't want to travel, drop down a level, don't get NIL, and play sports in a small-time regional Division II conference. If you want to play big boy sports, you will get paid, and you have to travel.

Everyone wanted athletes to be paid, well they are. And now it's an arms race for schools to get as much money to pay the athletes (or set up and drive collectives for the athletes to be paid) to have the best teams. And part of that is getting more TV money and conference re-alignment.

Welcome to College sports minor league sports in 2023! Stop crying about the past; get on board with the new way of the world.

 

[tep624]

Wait a SEC. The other guy said UNC put the ACC on "notice ". Why isn't he really saying what is position is? UNC chicken schiiit.

Well he doesn’t say “he” voted against it. Effectively whether he personally wanted it or not he had to vote against it.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Mmmmhmmmm.

Quoting the great philosopher, Rasheed Wallace, "As long as somebody 'CTC,' at the end of the day I'm with them. For all you that don't know what CTC means, that's 'Cut The Check."

Y'all can go. Just cut the check for leaving early, set up the direct deposit for the tv money and we'll send our band there to send you off.

Y'all are one Saban retirement away from Dabo jumping and y'all convincing yourself that you have the next Dabo on staff.

I really enjoy your posts GBO. I really like Clemson fans. But y'all keep talking like you're Regina George in Mean Girls and you aren't even Gretchen Weiners.

This redeems this entire goatshow of a thread.

 

[NYCCuse826]

Hey DickyV...they aren't student-athletes anymore. They have NIL and are paid employees. Sports are their job; it's their major. Part of their job involves travel.

If an athlete doesn't want to travel, drop down a level, don't get NIL, and play sports in a small-time regional Division II conference. If you want to play big boy sports, you will get paid, and you have to travel.

Everyone wanted athletes to be paid, well they are. And now it's an arms race for schools to get as much money to pay the athletes (or set up and drive collectives for the athletes to be paid) to have the best teams. And part of that is getting more TV money and conference re-alignment.

Welcome to College sports minor league sports in 2023! Stop crying about the past; get on board with the new way of the world.

Everyone doesn't get NIL. Far from it. That's why you have Arik Gilbert breaking into a vape shop for $1600 of merch and players at Iowa and Iowa State gambling knowing they can go to prison.

 

[All4SU]

UNC, FSU and Clemson burned that bridge.

 

[Janner]

With the additions of these 3 quality academic schools, is there any chance that the conference could find/create research funding through a member collaboration to generate academic revenue streams, kind of like the AAU? I ask because if academic funding could be created i would imagine the Presidents at FSU, UNC & Clemson would have to think hard and long about leaving if/when the time comes

 

[cto]

Everyone is talking about the travel issue, but that should primarily be just a problem for Stanford/Cal. The other schools could theoretically just make 1 California road trip a year (at most) if they schedule them back-to-back as they should.

I think it is a larger cost issue for the non-revenue sports. Maybe they could bunch all the non-revenue sports (soccer, field hockey, track, lacrosse, tennis, volleyball, etc) scheduling together and make just two charter flights a year.

 

[LetMeIn]

Kind of odd that the one conference with an appropriate name for a coast to coast footprint is the only conference that explictly announced they dont want one

 

[Toga]

Stanford does have a lacrosse team. Could see where they could be THE west coast school of choice for above average academically Lax recruits.

 

[Stern]

Everyone doesn't get NIL. Far from it. That's why you have Arik Gilbert breaking into a vape shop for $1600 of merch and players at Iowa and Iowa State gambling knowing they can go to prison.

Your missing the forest from the trees. Bigger picture, the landscape has changed. And the college sports world has changed.

IF you don't get NIL, point is you CAN though. And because of that, more travel is involved.

Nobody is forcing any 18, 19, or 20 year old to play college sports. They know what they are signing up for and the travel involved. Don't sign up and complain about it after the fact.

May sound harsh, and cruel but literally its reality. Dick Vital wants it to be 1985 again and to romance what college sports "was". It's like, bro, look around those days are dead and buried and ain't coming back. Even using the term student-athlete is kind of outdated.

 

[MikeSU02]

SMU is throwing a party for this.

 

[JeffCuse]

Well you sure complain with the best of them FRANKIE. What is your alternative solution to this? The ACC dying on the vine in 2036?

Whoa...you misread me. I'd happy with this move. I think I was just saying I wish we could have brought in more PAC schools before the PAC was raided.

Edit- Now I am thinking you mistook me from FRANKIE.

 

[NYCCuse826]

Your missing the forest from the trees. Bigger picture, the landscape has changed. And the college sports world has changed.

IF you don't get NIL, point is you CAN though. And because of that, more travel is involved.

Nobody is forcing any 18, 19, or 20 year old to play college sports. They know what they are signing up for and the travel involved. Don't sign up and complain about it after the fact.

May sound harsh, and cruel but literally its reality. Dick Vital wants it to be 1985 again and to romance what college sports "was". It's like, bro, look around those days are dead and buried and ain't coming back. Even using the term student-athlete is kind of outdated.

Very elitist and boomer take. It's the only way some of them can afford to get a formal education thanks to the sins of a previous generation. While degrees are holding less and less weight, taking on little to no debt > paying full freight at a D2, D3 or NAIA school.

 

[orangenauburn]

I'd like to see the ACC add six more teams just to keep the party going.

I know the reasons why it won't happen, but I'd love for it to be Cincy, WVU, UCF, Houston, Tulane, and Navy.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Yep. I’m don’t understand why this is so hard to comprehend.

You’d think some of these posters were trapped in the year 1995…

1995 was the last year Stansbury was relevant. If I recall correctly they snubbed Jesse for Zack Morris.

 

[SU91]

With the additions of these 3 quality academic schools, is there any chance that the conference could find/create research funding through a member collaboration to generate academic revenue streams, kind of like the AAU? I ask because if academic funding could be created i would imagine the Presidents at FSU, UNC & Clemson would have to think hard and long about leaving if/when the time comes

This is variable I think most are overlooking. Yes, college athletics don’t have much to do with academics anymore (if they ever did), but we shouldn’t completely dismiss this angle. This is one of the paths to making the ACC viable long term. Don’t underestimate the power of the academic side within these institutions. Every so often they flex their muscles too and the results could be surprising. The ACC needs to up their game in the cross-pollenization of academic resources for member institutions.