ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[Scooch]

I wonder how long the B1G/PAC contract to play in the Rose bowl is.

It doesn't matter. If for some baffling reason OSU/WSU try to maintain the contract, the Rose Bowl Committee will sue to break the deal. And they'll win easily.

I imagine it'll end up a B1G-B12 game, when it isn't a playoff destination (which will be rare).

 

[TexanMark]

Good for them but wayyyyy too late.

There’s a world where UD, Nova and UConn all upgraded in the 80s/early 90s and eastern football looks a lot different.

Zero Sum game though...too many mouths...too few fish

 

[CousCuse]

Zero Sum game though...too many mouths...too few fish

They probably think that if the ACC major defections, they would fit well into the footprint and deliver the DMV. I said on the Lax thread that they would be a good fit for that. ACC lax doesn't have enough teams for an AQ, so no tournament and it is costing spots in the playoffs and will cost more in the future.

 

[BlazeOrange]

Zero Sum game though...too many mouths...too few fish

But if the pond was bigger, maybe more fish would want to swim in it.

 

[UpstateSM]

I can't believe a bunch of rich aholes killed the pac 12. This is sad.

 

[Hoo's That]

But don't they also always get the Big 10/PAC game? Curious if it'll be Big 10 vs wildcard.

I won't be surprised in the least if it becomes the "showcase" B1G-SEC game (for teams not in the playoff) replacing the New Years bowl game in Tampa.

 

[Toga]

So the B1G was the PAC 12's big brother. Right.

 

[longtimefan]

I won't be surprised in the least if it becomes the "showcase" B1G-SEC game (for teams not in the playoff) replacing the New Years bowl game in Tampa.

That could mean B1G #4 vs. SEC #5. There's a can't-miss matchup.

 

[Hoo's That]

That could mean B1G #4 vs. SEC #5. There's a can't-miss matchup.

"Appointment television."

 

[syrBossHogg]

I can't believe a bunch of rich aholes killed the pac 12 college athletics. This is sad.

Fixed

 

[BlazeOrange]

That could mean B1G #4 vs. SEC #5. There's a can't-miss matchup.

They'll vague up the ranking to effectively make it the best B1G west coast team vs whoever (which will be Notre Dame whenever possible).

 

[longtimefan]

I can't believe a bunch of rich aholes killed the pac 12. This is sad.

Greed.

 

[SmilinBob]

Greed.

Not just that but the thirst for power and control.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

I can't believe a bunch of rich aholes killed the pac 12. This is sad.

I think their terrible network that somehow ends up with the best game of the week most weeks but no one can watch did them in and they had no negotiating strength when it was time for a new deal.

They should have easily been able to get a solid bag from Fox CBS and NBC/Peacock.

At least the Big Ten won’t suck and be as boring.

 

[UpstateSM]

Are we going to be a Big 12 school? Or do we join something football only and go Big East for everything else?

I hope the latter.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Are we going to be a Big 12 school? Or do we join something football only and go Big East for everything else?

I hope the latter.

By "something", you want us to become an Independent just like UConn?

No TV contract. No Bowl tie-ins.

And no money from Albany.

There isn't an existing conference out there (AAC, CUSA, MAC, etc...) that would let SU join for football only without bringing along Basketball and all the other sports.

 

[UpstateSM]

By "something", you want us to become an Independent just like UConn?

No TV contract. No Bowl tie-ins.

And no money from Albany.

There isn't an existing conference out there (AAC, CUSA, MAC, etc...) that would let SU join for football only without bringing along Basketball and all the other sports.

 

[CuseBlood44]

I can't believe a bunch of rich aholes killed the pac 12. This is sad.

It is. But news flash we aren’t far behind

 

[OrangeXtreme]

It is. But news flash we aren’t far behind

They need us.

The whole reason why CFB works is there are 70+ "P5" teams, which makes CFB a national sport.

CFB relies upon ad revenue. And advertisers want lots of eyeballs on their commercials.

IF ESPN opts for a "P2" and relegates 40 teams to the kiddie table, most of the country won't watch.

No viewers, no eyeballs.

No eyeballs, no more ad revenue.

And the pyramid collapses.

 

[721Comstock]

They need us.

The whole reason why CFB works is there are 70+ "P5" teams, which makes CFB a national sport.

CFB relies upon ad revenue. And advertisers want lots of eyeballs on their commercials.

IF ESPN opts for a "P2" and relegates 40 teams to the kiddie table, most of the country won't watch.

No viewers, no eyeballs.

No eyeballs, no more ad revenue.

And the pyramid collapses.

NCAA - no, no, this is not a pyramid scheme!

Our model is based on the trapezoid.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

NCAA - no, no, this is not a pyramid scheme!

Our model is based on the trapezoid.

I'm partial to the Rhomboid.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

They need us.

The whole reason why CFB works is there are 70+ "P5" teams, which makes CFB a national sport.

CFB relies upon ad revenue. And advertisers want lots of eyeballs on their commercials.

IF ESPN opts for a "P2" and relegates 40 teams to the kiddie table, most of the country won't watch.

No viewers, no eyeballs.

No eyeballs, no more ad revenue.

And the pyramid collapses.

Big Ten isn’t P2 worthy they are in the same ballpark as the ACC and the Big 12.

It’s the SEC and then the 50 schools in the other 3 conferences and then 1 school from all the rest. The SEC is gettting the most into the field of 12 regardless there will be years us and the Big 12 have more teams than the Big Ten.

 

[Orangefizz]

I’d love this Big 12 conference when the ACC implodes. BC WF SMU left out…

BIG 12 EAST
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Virginia Tech

NC State
Duke
Georgia Tech
UCF
Houston
TCU

BIG 12 WEST
Kansas (Big 10)
Iowa St
Kansas St
Oklahoma St
Texas Tech
Baylor
BYU

Colorado
Utah
Arizona
Arizona St
California
Stanford

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I’d love this Big 12 conference when the ACC implodes.

BIG 12 EAST
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Virginia Tech

NC State
Duke
Georgia Tech
UCF
Houston
TCU

BIG 12 WEST
Kansas (Big 10)
Iowa St
Kansas St
Oklahoma St
Texas Tech
Baylor
BYU

Colorado
Utah
Arizona
Arizona St
California
Stanford

Do you want to tell them that only 16 out of 24 teams will make the Basketball Tournament, or should I?

 

[UpstateSM]