Which teams on the SEC side of the ledger would you throw out? Texas, the largest grossing brand with the most money to pay NIL? A&M who stole Jimbo away from FSU? Auburn, they're always right there with Bama and LSU. The others are all recent National Champions. There is a reason why the SEC sends by far the most recruits to the NFL.
My argument was not for anything in particular, just pointing out that Lubbock has virtually no influence on the rest of the state.
I have to know your standards to compare teams in a fair manner. I would suspect that if you are as inclusive as you are for SEC teams, I suspect there are several more teams that are blue chips in the remaining conferences when judged by your standards.
Are you seriously arguing that the SEC isn't head and shoulders better than the other conferences? They've won most of the National Championships for the last 20 years. It's really not even up for debate. The SEC is better than all the rest of college football combined.
We are discussing blue chip schools because it was brought it up, I can drop the topic. As for radical fanbases, the B1G has very loyal fanbases, several other do, too. The PAC none. The ACC has a few, with several having sold fanbases. I concede that the SEC, by percentage, has more rabid fanbases. For hoops, the picture changes heavily against the SEC, but football still makes the lion's share of the TV revenue.
Why would the ACC want to join an "alliance" against the SEC? Especially with the B1G who has designs on taking the ACC apart.
The Big Ten can’t break the ACC.
Re-read the discussion, I never made the claim that the SEC wasn't head and shoulder better than any other conferences. You are raising a strawman argument.
Yeah...seriously. We need to let this academic ranking nonsense go. Where are the SEC schools ranked?
I think the ACC is in the king-maker role. The ACC can leverage ESPN for a partnership with the SEC and raise the payouts to the ACC. If not, they can work with the B1G/PAC alliance and regionalize the SEC. ESPN has to treat the ACC fair or they could face criminal interference issues.
No Michigan, Penn St or Nebraska? All three are top ten in wins (Michigan is #1). All have multiple NC and huge stadiums and fan bases. Your list seems suspect to me.
UM and Nebraska are yesteryear, nobody takes them seriously anymore. I will never give Penn State any recognition of any kind, they area pariah to me.
I don't trust the Big Ten as far as I can throw Brett Beliema!
The perception of their league is diminishing. and they know it, and this "alliance" canard smacks of desperation.
Well, first, we need a standard, a definition, of Football Blue Blood, and that is not all that easy to nail down. I think it comes from a combination of things that have been manifested over time, with the stress on this century and probably back to the 1970s. Pitt, for example, has a bunch of National Championships before WW2, and long averaged more fans per game than PSU. But it would be stupid to argue that Pitt is a Blue Blood now, or any time since Foge Fazio ruined a good thing for keeps.
The Big 12 was in big trouble as soon as Nebraska left, because that meant Texas would be even more of an irritant to everybody else, especially A&M. Without Texas but still with OU,l the Big 12 would be barely hanging on as a Power Conference. The Big 12 now is demoted forever, and it might not even survive. The Big 12 is very much the SWC 2.0.
Nor should you, or any of us. But what we must do is explore any possibility that a scheduling alliance of ACC-BT-Pac could help each of us improve quality of play to prepare for playoffs and bowls - and so keep the SEC from running the table most years.
Doesn't the ACC contract with ESPN allow for renegotiation if the league expands? Whomever they were to add would bring the payouts up significantly because at this point they are very under valued.
I’m reminded why I don’t take you that seriously.
They have 1 team that carries the league, OSU. That's it. No other team in that league is going to compete for an NC.
You’re blinded by recent history. Just like the ACC and PAC12, there are 3-4 teams that could vault up the recruiting rankings and into consideration. Schools like Michigan, Miami, UCLA, USC, Mich State, Wisconsin, VaTech, etc have enough resources and things going for it that they could make a run.
What about UMass?
I included USC. Miami and VaTech have a ways to go. don't know if their current coaching staffs can get them there. Wisky can win the B1G west, that's about it. The others, meh.
