Acceptance

[Cusefan0307]

That's your reality. I will never come into a season thinking it's not possible that a Benny Williams type can change the dynamic of a team and lift them to a high level especially in the day and age we live in. It may not happen but I will always believe that it can. We've seen it more than once before. So all you "realists", as you call yourselves, can continue to proceed without hope.

I think we will have above average talent at 4 positions. It’s pg I am worried about and we have seen the way that goes in the past when we had Frank and Battle share ball handling duties there. It was not pretty.

 

[Alsacs]

That's your reality. I will never come into a season thinking it's not possible that a Benny Williams type can change the dynamic of a team and lift them to a high level especially in the day and age we live in. It may not happen but I will always believe that it can. We've seen it more than once before. So all you "realists", as you call yourselves, can continue to proceed without hope.

Do you believe Benny Williams will be significantly better next season than Quincy Guerrier was this season?

I think Benny is a solid player who replace the production we are losing.

I don’t see the PG position being better next season and that will hurt us a lot.

 

[MikeSU02]

Do you believe Benny Williams will be significantly better next season than Quincy Guerrier was this season?

I think Benny is a solid player who replace the production we are losing.

I don’t see the PG position being better next season and that will hurt us a lot.

I think Benny will be the ideal wing that we can get nowadays.

He's not Melo. Don't think he can come in as polished as Wes was (1 year at ISU, 1 year sitting) and become an AA.

I'm not trying to start a pie fight, but with Buddy likely getting the most shots next year, again, I'm hoping Benny can be the second leading scorer and be a stat stuffer as well. He may need to also be the secondary ball handler.

 

[DoctorBombay]

I think JB started to accept that as much as we value regular season goals and achievements, the major factor to determine whether a season is successful is what happens in the Dance.
Not saying he’s satisfied with 19-11 records, but he’s accepted that the most important metric is making the Dance, because once we do that- all bets are off. And if we win a couple of games then...viola!, there’s your “successful” season.
Now, anyone would rather have both- a great regular season and Tournament run, but i honestly believe that the effect of sanctions, his age, etc., have all played a role in his acceptance of the current status quo.
The alternative of course is bottoming out with losing records and total irrelevancy, but to his credit, he’s at least kept us above water during this downturn. Sweet 16’s and Final4’s after a “meh” regular season are not the Syracuse standard, but it’s better then the alternative. And i believe we’ll get a bitter taste of that fact once the old man retires...if we strike out on his successor. One day we may look back on these as the good old days. I certainly hope not, but it’s a distinct possibility.

 

[Dcuse]

Do you believe Benny Williams will be significantly better next season than Quincy Guerrier was this season?

I think Benny is a solid player who replace the production we are losing.

I don’t see the PG position being better next season and that will hurt us a lot.

I have no idea. He appears to be a different player than Quincy. The point is that it is possible that his skills and type might mesh well enough with what we have to make us a good team. That is my mentality coming into it. I expect them to be a good team that is more competitive with the top teams than they were this year. I always expect that and am disappointed( and downright pissed) when they aren't. PG is a concern but I'm gonna wait it out because none of us know the roster yet.

 

[Arangeman]

I agree with everything you said, I just can't bring myself to hit the "Like" button on it. Actually, one nitpick, I'm not entirely sure his system will keep us from bottoming out if our roster for next year continues on it's current trajectory. The next few days/weeks are going to be anxious.

We will never bottom out. Because lumping 8-9 cupcakes and going .500 in the ACC ain’t that hard.

Due to playing BC and Pit 2x we have one of the easiest ACC schedules every year. The magical winning season streak will endure.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

The reality is everything that you said, but why as fans should we accept that and be content ?

What else can we do? We aren't the wealthy donors who influence decision making. Until they determine their loyalty to the school outweighs all other loyalties, we are on this path.

 

[CousCuse]

Boeheim didn't accept anything. As Alsacs mentor Dasher pointed out, if Sidibe didn't get injured the season would have gone on a much higher level and the team would have been more of a top 10 team all season. The season before Hughes missed 2 games that they lost and would have won and would have been off the bubble then as well. The season before the starting point guard Frank Howard, had a serious leg injury which cost the team quite a few wins.

 

[Bayside44]

Yikes, this is a tough post. Imagine a Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or North Carolina fan saying this. Never would happen. Cuse, not too long ago, was very much on par with those schools. Now, not so much... I guess we just have to accept mediocrity according to you...

Normally, when you fall down a peg, and a rich with tradition, you replace the coach. Especially one that has put his program on probation twice.

North Carolina is this, if not less than this.

 

[SBU72]

Letters/emails are fine but the AD isn't going to do anything until there is a financial impact. That's what runs the program & department. Everybody agrees the switch to the ACC was at least 75% for the money. As long as there are 20k fannies in the dome and a share of NCAAT money coming in, why should the AD change? Keeping JB actually saves money! The last I heard his salary is not anywhere near commensurate to that of a hc at a top P5 school. If people are right and the effort isn't there to recruit top 50-100 kids, then that is a savings. And when JB leaves, the AD will have to decide which direction he wants the program to go. Increase the budget to get a top coach and talent or stay the course. Somebody in another thread talked about a change in standards. I guess that's what this is.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Boeheim didn't accept anything. As Alsacs mentor Dasher pointed out, if Sidibe didn't get injured the season would have gone on a much higher level and the team would have been more of a top 10 team all season. The season before Hughes missed 2 games that they lost and would have won and would have been off the bubble then as well. The season before the starting point guard Frank Howard, had a serious leg injury which cost the team quite a few wins.

Stop.

 

[OttosDad]

North Carolina is this, if not less than this.

North Carolina just won a national championship in 2017... and easily could've went back to back if that Jenkins buzzer beater didn't go in in 2016. Not sure how you can say they are on a similar level with Cuse.

 

[Arangeman]

I think JB started to accept that as much as we value regular season goals and achievements, the major factor to determine whether a season is successful is what happens in the Dance.
Not saying he’s satisfied with 19-11 records, but he’s accepted that the most important metric is making the Dance, because once we do that- all bets are off. And if we win a couple of games then...viola!, there’s your “successful” season.
Now, anyone would rather have both- a great regular season and Tournament run, but i honestly believe that the effect of sanctions, his age, etc., have all played a role in his acceptance of the current status quo.
The alternative of course is bottoming out with losing records and total irrelevancy, but to his credit, he’s at least kept us above water during this downturn. Sweet 16’s and Final4’s after a “meh” regular season are not the Syracuse standard, but it’s better then the alternative. And i believe we’ll get a bitter taste of that fact once the old man retires...if we strike out on his successor. One day we may look back on these as the good old days. I certainly hope not, but it’s a distinct possibility.

I have a theory that we might be even more successful in the tourney with a higher seed.

 

[MikeSU02]

Here's another issue that drives me nuts with JB:

I can see him, at times, still getting the car to fifth gear with his coaching. I can still see him just absolutely smoke fools with his coaching ability.

It's why it's so disappointing that he just doesn't make some shifts to get assistants that can bring in big time recruits and let them cook on the recruiting trail.

Give JB the right set of guys and he's still a scary guy to have to coach against.

We don't need McDonalds AA. But we do need some top 50 guys, top 100 guys. We need the right size/length.

Hence why the KR thing is driving me so nuts. he was the PERFECT pg for JB and to play with Buddy.

JB can have a team a tier below the Dukes/UNCs/Kentuckys in terms of pure talent and still absolutely smoke teams because of his coaching.

 

[CousCuse]

Stop.

You will not deplatform me.

 

[PhatOrange]

For football the expectations are insane and we have no chance of ever being a contender. Just finishing in the top 10 or 15 would be historic. Expectations don't jive with reality.

Basketball on the other hand is the one sport we are absolutely a top 10 program. JB built it yes, but expectations should be freaking high and rightfully so (with or without him). JB has gotten a lot of passes (2 probations) because he did build it and he should get passes and freebie seasons, but lowering expectations is completely and utterly ridiculous. This isn't BC. This is a top 10 program and comes with high expectations and nobody should waiver from that.

 

[MikeSU02]

You will not deplatform me.

I'm 100% stealing this for a reply today.

 

[CousCuse]

I'm 100% stealing this for a reply today.

It's relevant at this time.

 

[two3zone]

Swept by Pitt, amongst other issues = unacceptable

Yearly 50/50 games against UB.

 

[Bayside44]

North Carolina just won a national championship in 2017... and easily could've went back to back if that Jenkins buzzer beater didn't go in in 2016. Not sure how you can say they are on a similar level with Cuse.

We were in the Final Four in 16. Have you watched them? They're terrible. They play 1970s hockey.

 

[dasher]

Boeheim didn't accept anything. As Alsacs mentor Dasher pointed out, if Sidibe didn't get injured the season would have gone on a much higher level and the team would have been more of a top 10 team all season. The season before Hughes missed 2 games that they lost and would have won and would have been off the bubble then as well. The season before the starting point guard Frank Howard, had a serious leg injury which cost the team quite a few wins.

How many games did we win when the other team had guys out with injuries? Maybe this year we can start with the 3 N.C. St games. How could you not understand that?

 

[CousCuse]

How many games did we win when the other team had guys out with injuries? Maybe this year we can start with the 3 N.C. St games. How could you not understand that?

I will give you partial credit for that, butt, they had a full roster to work with

 

[Alsacs]

I will give you partial credit for that, butt, they had a full roster to work with

Amazing how spectacularly wrong you are constantly.
NC State’s best player, leading scorer, leading assistmen, 3rd best rebounder tore his ACL a week before they played us the first time.

Devon Daniels tears ACL, done for the season :: WRALSportsFan.com

An MRI today revealed that NC State senior guard Devon Daniels suffered a torn anterior crucial ligament (ACL) in his left knee in the second half of last night's victory over Wake Forest.

www.wralsportsfan.com

We beat them 3 times without their best player.

 

[CousCuse]

Amazing how spectacularly wrong you are constantly.
NC State’s best player, leading scorer, leading assistmen, 3rd best rebounder tore his ACL a week before they played us the first time.

Devon Daniels tears ACL, done for the season :: WRALSportsFan.com

An MRI today revealed that NC State senior guard Devon Daniels suffered a torn anterior crucial ligament (ACL) in his left knee in the second half of last night's victory over Wake Forest.

www.wralsportsfan.com

We beat them 3 times without their best player.

They had enough players to go on a season ending tear before Cuse crushed them in the ACCT. IMO.

 

[orangepassion]

The recruiting got screwed up when the sanctions were put on Syracuse. This portal situation/opportunity is going to rectify that.

The funny thing is Boeheim recently said 12 scholarships was too many. If that's the case, sanctions shouldn't have affected us at all.