Any Chance of Coaching Changes?

[javadoc]

New coordinators this year now with a season in the books having worked with their position coaches. Is anyone hearing anything about possible changes based on what the coordinators have seen?

 

[OrangeTarheel]

*crickets in here*

 

[AZOrange]

I mean Cavanaugh right?

 

[CuseLegacy]

I mean Cavanaugh right?

Probably not.

 

[AZOrange]

Probably not.

Inexplicable

 

[PatMark]

If there are no staff changes after a 1-10 season, it's even more evident that Dino has given up and the administration still really doesn't care about football.

 

[Dcuse]

If there are no staff changes after a 1-10 season, it's even more evident that Dino has given up and the administration still really doesn't care about football.

Good Lord.

 

[orangepassion]

If there are no staff changes after a 1-10 season, it's even more evident that Dino has given up and the administration still really doesn't care about football.

I won't go that far, but keeping Cav after the way our OL has performed the last 2 years would be a big gamble on his part.

 

[PatMark]

Good Lord.

What? They should all be given a free pass this year?

 

[MSOrange]

I won't go that far, but keeping Cav after the way our OL has performed the last 2 years would be a big gamble on his part.

I think that's a fair way to state things without being overly dramatic.

 

[SuFTW]

What? They should all be given a free pass this year?

Free pass vs saying they just gave up and don’t care?

 

[Trueblue25]

Of course the staff is keeping Cav, Bleich’s now eligible and we just brought in 5 OL this cycle

 

[721Comstock]

Of course the staff is keeping Cav, Bleich’s now eligible and we just brought in 5 OL this cycle

Yeah, so unless they do the cold-blooded thing and can him now, after the OL class have all signed, I’d assume he’s being given one more final year to show he can get it done w the OL in games.

Which I’m not thrilled about.
Would love to find an OL Whisperer type like a Marrone or Dazzler to coach them up.

 

[UpstateSM]

If there are no staff changes after a 1-10 season, it's even more evident that Dino has given up and the administration still really doesn't care about football.

Agreed. Drop down to FCS

 

[PatMark]

Free pass vs saying they just gave up and don’t care?

I am saying if they don't make changes, it seems as if 1-10 is acceptable. Which obviously it is not. Start with OL/WR/Strength. All have been an issue for the last few years.

 

[SoBristol]

If you judge Cav, what do value? Had good recruiting results in this cycle; Bergeron and Red two years ago; Ilaoa last cycle. Someone got Elmore playing well at his new position. Servais struggled against speed rushes — possibly due to injury. Vetterello needs to be stronger. Dakota and Bleich need to be healthy. What parts of this are on Cav?

 

[721Comstock]

I am saying if they don't make changes, it seems as if 1-10 is acceptable. Which obviously it is not. Start with OL/WR/Strength. All have been an issue for the last few years.

Sigh.

Dino made a TON of changes just one year ago.

Roughly half of the coaches, including BOTH coordinators were replaced.

You want him to makes changes just to make changes, to “send a message”?

Where’s that gif when we need it?

Don’t hold your breath on Wolverine getting canned.
Our kids’ strength & speed #’s are lightyears ahead of the prior regime.

It’s S&C’s fault that Hendrix took out Cisco pre-game? Or that Nunn blew out his ACL?
Or that Tommy got tackled and had a high ankle sprain?

Football is a violent, physical sport.
Sadly, injuries happen.
No matter who the S&C staff is.

 

[oldpinepoint]

If you judge Cav, what do value? Had good recruiting results in this cycle; Bergeron and Red two years ago; Ilaoa last cycle. Someone got Elmore playing well at his new position. Servais struggled against speed rushes — possibly due to injury. Vetterello needs to be stronger. Dakota and Bleich need to be healthy. What parts of this are on Cav?

I actually think the OL play improved as the season went on. Not that I think Cav Is a world
Beater. But considering we had zero depth, probably weren’t hitting live all they much during practice due to that depth, no spring ball, no team Activities, weight lifting , conditioning amd whatever else. I’m ok letting him stick around another year. Cav might also decide to hang it up on his own? Who knows, he coaches a season with while His wife was dealing with Cancer. God bless him for that

 

[SuFTW]

I am saying if they don't make changes, it seems as if 1-10 is acceptable. Which obviously it is not. Start with OL/WR/Strength. All have been an issue for the last few years.

We went 1-10 in a large part because we did not have good QB play.
Because Dino has different ideas than you doesn’t mean he doesn’t care.
Administation meddling isn’t going to help either.

 

[BVille44]

With the situation involving Coach Cav’s wife and the fact the OL was decimated by injuries in 2020 I don’t see Dino firing him.

 

[RandomGuy]

If you judge Cav, what do value? Had good recruiting results in this cycle; Bergeron and Red two years ago; Ilaoa last cycle. Someone got Elmore playing well at his new position. Servais struggled against speed rushes — possibly due to injury. Vetterello needs to be stronger. Dakota and Bleich need to be healthy. What parts of this are on Cav?

Oline is developement. A kid with NO developement since middle school was our best. That seems off.

Do you know how strong Vettorello is? (Or any of them? ) Is it strength or technique? Vett, Berg, Tis were healthy, and none received a passing PFF grade. Lowest in the ACC. Elmore ranked 14th at his position, in the ACC. The others ranked lower. We were incapable of picking up a blitz, last year. Oline 101. To a lesser extent this year, which was helped with Rex's sub 2 second delivery.

Obviously, there are other factors. Couldn't practice, this year, the same way(depth). No spring developement. Did we recruit an entire group that isn't capable of P5 play? Their strength/speed #'s would indicate otherwise, but who knows?

Banking on Bleich to play this year, would have been folly. For our projected starters, only Dakota was out. (Who, BTW, did score 1 passing grade) We don't know about Red, Ilaoa, or anyone coming in.

I have no idea what the issue is. Talent? Developement? Coaching? Recruiting? Is practice run in a way that gives the Oline less time than they require?

The only thing we know, is that it needs to be fixed. I certainly hope they find a way, or I'm afraid next year will be the last year for all of them.

 

[Consigliere]

I actually think the OL play improved as the season went on. Not that I think Cav Is a world
Beater. But considering we had zero depth, probably weren’t hitting live all they much during practice due to that depth, no spring ball, no team Activities, weight lifting , conditioning amd whatever else. I’m ok letting him stick around another year. Cav might also decide to hang it up on his own? Who knows, he coaches a season with while His wife was dealing with Cancer. God bless him for that

Improved markedly two years in a row. Big issue that there hasn't been any depth to compensate for pre-season injuries. Last year we los Heckel and Servais had to move inside after losing bulk to be more agile on the edge. This year losing Davis without Bleich being available to plug in combined with a senior OT playing essentially on one leg all year led to a number of guys playing out of position. two one hundred yard RBs and one sack allowed against one of the top defenses in the country certainly provides a glimmer of optimism headed to 2021.

 

[RandomGuy]

Improved markedly two years in a row. Big issue that there hasn't been any depth to compensate for pre-season injuries. Last year we los Heckel and Servais had to move inside after losing bulk to be more agile on the edge. This year losing Davis without Bleich being available to plug in combined with a senior OT playing essentially on one leg all year led to a number of guys playing out of position. two one hundred yard RBs and one sack allowed against one of the top defenses in the country certainly provides a glimmer of optimism headed to 2021.

Devils advocate. Same lineup ran for 3 yards on 25 carries the previous week.

 

[AngryOtto]

Sigh.

Dino made a TON of changes just one year ago.

Roughly half of the coaches, including BOTH coordinators were replaced.

You want him to makes changes just to make changes, to “send a message”?

Where’s that gif when we need it?

Don’t hold your breath on Wolverine getting canned.
Our kids’ strength & speed #’s are lightyears ahead of the prior regime.

It’s S&C’s fault that Hendrix took out Cisco pre-game? Or that Nunn blew out his ACL?
Or that Tommy got tackled and had a high ankle sprain?

Football is a violent, physical sport.
Sadly, injuries happen.
No matter who the S&C staff is.

both lines consistently got pushed around. As Dino says games are one in the trenches. Not happening.
Concerning OL. Either it’s Cav or strength and conditioning they keep getting hurt all the time. I have not seen any other unit on our team or in the entire ncaa that has suffered more injuries to a unit over the last several years.

 

[kcsu]

both lines consistently got pushed around. As Dino says games are one in the trenches. Not happening.
Concerning OL. Either it’s Cav or strength and conditioning they keep getting hurt all the time. I have not seen any other unit on our team or in the entire ncaa that has suffered more injuries to a unit over the last several years.

Here is the good news. Cav doesn't know any card tricks, Gilbert has actually coached the QB position in college.