Anyone know what’s up with SUfootball NIL

[721Comstock]

Yeah, looks like they were trying a triple jump in checkers and JW was playing chess instead and used his queen and put them in check ...and their power play for Lyke blew up in the face..

YAHTZEE!!

 

[kingtidge]

Why would SU not put Melo on the committee to find the next bball HC? I don't agree with his candidate, but it seems like he should be on the committee if he wants to be. Especially given recent events.

It seems perhaps that Lally started pulling chips off the table and putting them in his pile (with Haynie in his corner), to see 1. If he could get away with it and 2. Consolidate more power.

I guess it's a small victory that he couldn't get away with it, but only by other factions hitting the red launch button on football NIL... So now we have a real self-induced crap show to deal with and people in their own corners pointing at each other

 

[007]

Yeah, looks like they were trying a triple jump in checkers and JW was playing chess instead and used his queen and put them in check ...and their power play for Lyke blew up in the face..

You have the wrong guy moving the queen

 

[powdersmack]

Cliff's Notes Version Recap

For new readers of this thread, I will try and recap the deets on this morbidly fascinating situation and high drama (if I am understanding all this correctly) below...

Do I have this right as we know things currently??

Those ITK, please correct me if I have any of this wrong or add any pertinent details that may be missing...

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Haynie went into the Chancellor gig pro-Lyke for AD (as reported here), aligned with Lally on that, and when Lyke-gate went down with the DO expose article, they essentially tried to play hardball and force Lyke thru as AD anyways... But donor faction and fan non-support for Lyke got so toxic, they had to go in another direction, and Haynie/Lally forced Blair through as their alternative pick for AD in the search committee, without consult of other whale donor factions (particularly on the football side along with some bball major supporters like Melo, etc.)??

That would also imply that Lally/Haynie were pulling all the strings on the AD "search committee", if all this was done without other whale stakeholder factions on the football side consulted, yes??

Hence, those disgruntled football donors with their dissatisfaction, responded by scuttling something very important they had control over - pulling football NIL support and taking down the NIL collective donation website, since control and management of it is in their camp.

Now upcoming NIL payments to football players are in question, as the collective has been temporarily shuttered in protest, and players may not get their next scheduled NIL payments with Spring ball starting. Fran and staff are understandably in W-T-&!#$-mode trying to figure out what to do next to get their players paid as promised, while the power brokers use them as pawns in this boardroom game of chicken on the AD and basketball coach hires. The football donor faction is attempting to claw some power back from Lally/Haynie with this NIL collective shutdown play.

Additionally, Lally is pushing hard for Hodgson as next basketball coach, supposedly committing to some significant level of NIL support personally for Hodgson (Lally has been primarily athletics MAJOR supporter with the $25 mil athletics complex donation as well as NIL support on the football side). The Hodg NIL support marks his first foray into significant NIL support on the bball side seemingly. A separate faction of Bball major donors are in the GMAC/internal hire camp for head coach. Word also that a pre-negotiated contract (in principle) for Hodg is already in Haynie's (and now AD Blair's) hands for final review / approval with the BoT, so the push for Hodg is in advanced stages.

New AD Blair is now walking into a hornet's nest of boardroom and donor dysfunction and dissatisfaction, with a player level 5 NIL disbursement emergency to immediately resolve along with trying to get all whale donor stakeholder factions together to find compromise and build a consensus way forward. He has to convince grown-ass, rich adults to actually behave like adults, put the school and athletics first, and end the power struggle and childish tantrum tit-for-tats.

Is that where we're at??

 

[kingtidge]

You have the wrong guy moving the queen

Who orchestrated the HR complaint on Lyke and leaked it to the DO then?? Do tell...

 

[oldpinepoint]

This one from orangetrain is the one most people are talking about I think

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Post in thread 'Anyone know what’s up with SUfootball NIL'

Yesterday at 9:54 PM

As I stated in a previous post. Many so called insiders really have no clue.
If Fran, the Lally’s, and other donors besides JB decide to leave, it’s not because of a lack of passion and appreciation for Syracuse. It’s because of the foolishness of the “fans”.
None of us know what’s happening behind the scenes at this time, but let’s have faith in the true supporters and boosters we have.
And maybe if some of you charged your time you spend trashing individuals on the internet to NIL, we would win a national championship

• orangetrain

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The post is one of the most insulting, entitled opinions I have heard.

 

[kingtidge]

YAHTZEE!!

 

[llandz]

Bottom line is we need all parties involved to get together and hash it out. Lallys, Burton, Meiers, Melo and every other major NIL donor has been intrical to Syracuses success and we need all of them moving forward. This current situation mostly falls on SU itself. Haynie, Blair and Wildhack need to get on this 6am Monday and get some mea culpas out and get everyone back on track. We need everyone and thats includes getting Weitsman back in the game.

Can they not do this on Saturday or Sunday? I think those jobs are 24/7.

 

[OttosShoes]

Btw when these posters are blaming the fans, they are blaming us all because we wouldn’t let Heather Lyke be the AD.

Just chew on that for a moment.

And the really crazy thing is, without the mega donors we’re a mid-major. Without the fans we’re high school JV.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Can they not do this on Saturday or Sunday? I think those jobs are 24/7.

JW is on the NCAA Selection Committee

 

[Forza Azzurri]

And the really crazy thing is, without the mega donors we’re a mid-major. Without the fans we’re high school JV.

And without the players, we're La Sorbonne.

 

[richmondcuse03]

New AD doesn’t actually start for a while. Sounds like he’s in Toledo tying up loose ends for a bit.

 

[MadNY3]

The website might be down, but the NIL Collective is still social media’ing and supporting the Meier’s Creek event.

 

[007]

New AD doesn’t actually start for a while. Sounds like he’s in Toledo tying up loose ends for a bit.

My understanding is he might be splitting some time, but mostly at Toledo. Full time here starting in April

 

[gmoney44]

The Lally's don't give a dime to hoop

And they have their name on the Melo Center. We live in crazy times.

 

[GoSU96]

Based on past performance and willingness to engage in a large amount of ladder climbing careerism I think dodging the Lyke bullet is worth the short term churn.

I have no idea if Nick C was the person for the job.

Hopefully the guy they hired is capable.

As for the donor class money buys access and influence, and they are free to do with it what they will. No obligation to give. Be a petulant child. If you think the future is a dumpster fire, no need to fuel it.

But if you want to help, put ego aside and dig in.

 

[OrangeTown]

Haha! If you’re counting on me for anything then these must REALLY be desperate times!

Yeah I saw you at the UNLV tailgate. All you did was sit around doing nothing in the 120 degree heat. What a slacker.

I was really mad at you when you banned me from this board during the 2013 final four run

Didn’t you used to be GoHamSYR or something like that back then?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Right now Fran is Coach Netflix. Banger season one and season two was crap.

He’s a career assistant with his current resume.

If Fran goes 4-8 this year, the new AD might send him packing. For all those ripping out arm hair that Fran might leave. Personally, I think we go 7-5 with a solid season and kind of stabilize this thing.

 

[kingtidge]

New AD doesn’t actually start for a while. Sounds like he’s in Toledo tying up loose ends for a bit.

Yeah, am half worried if he even makes it here at this point, and doesn't turn his ship around.

To say the table isn't set up for his success here would be understatement of the year, given the current crap show. I would be surprised if he's not having second thoughts, at least. Hopefully, all this was laid out to him in the interview and he isn't learning all this now, watching the onion peel live...

 

[NineOneSeven]

Yeah I saw you at the UNLV tailgate. All you did was sit around doing nothing in the 120 degree heat. What a slacker.

Didn’t you used to be GoHamSYR or something like that back then?

Won’t confirm or deny but…. Yes. GoHamSU. And a shorter stint w DSyR440 iirc.

 

[OrangeTown]

Won’t confirm or deny but…. Yes. GoHamSU. And a shorter stint w DSyR440 iirc.

Also I apologize for the first part of my quote - that was leftover from a reply to Consigliere that didn’t get deleted.

And thanks for confirming.

 

[Consigliere]

John being pushed out is a sidebar to this that really pisses me off and how it sounds like it was done with Kent, Haynie and Lyke.

Just don’t get that narrative at all. Timing of events doesn’t line up, he was on a one year contract rather than a multi year extension and is 67 years old (68 in October.) Sometimes people just want to retire and enjoy their golden years. It doesn’t suck.

 

[Orangezoo]

They seem to be tweeting as normal..

And blocking anyone who calls them out or who has in the past. Not that calling them out is the right thing because it isn’t but honestly that’s the approach taken with Lykes so I guess folks have tried the same thing and can’t blame them. Having everything occurring behind closed doors hasn’t gone very well so far with what so many have kindly shared so putting heat on these folks to do the right thing…

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Based on past performance and willingness to engage in a large amount of ladder climbing careerism I think dodging the Lyke bullet is worth the short term churn.

I have no idea if Nick C was the person for the job.

Hopefully the guy they hired is capable.

As for the donor class money buys access and influence, and they are free to do with it what they will. No obligation to give. Be a petulant child. If you think the future is a dumpster fire, no need to fuel it.

But if you want to help, put ego aside and dig in.

100% what it comes down to, people or donors can do whatever the hell they want. There’s no requirement here, if they don’t like the way things are going, most would pull their donations back. They obviously have a belief in where things should be going and if that vision doesn’t align they are most likely going to pull back. None of these major donors are going to just blindly right checks. Call it whatever you want, but big money donations come with expectations

 

[Consigliere]

Yeah I saw you at the UNLV tailgate. All you did was sit around doing nothing in the 120 degree heat. What a slacker.

Didn’t you used to be GoHamSYR or something like that back then?

Ha! I was acting like it was 120 degrees. Can’t be more n 110!

Sorry can’t find the appropriate Blazing Saddles meme!

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