Babers Vs Fleck on ESPN 2 right now

[skytop44]

Man Bowling Greens offense is really good but Western Michigan's defense is really bad

 

[Chip]

We've had one offensive background head coach in how long? Ever? (if we assume life didn't exist before the 80s).

That one guy was taken away by the NFL.

Can we please try again?

 

[Chip]

Definitely not, because we're going to beat BC 6-2 and that buys Shafer another season.

I think it might be more of a pitcher's duel than that. '86 Clemens vs Gooden style. Except no one will want to watch.

 

[Millhouse]

I don't think the BG QB is as good as Dungey can be with a working offense, right now.

Play broke down that slow QB tries to run and goes 1 yd. With Eric that's 40 yds they are so spread out.

Dungey is pretty accurate on the long ball too. Perfect for this kind of offense.

Want to get more giddy? Look up boykins numbers in 2013

Dungey would be a Heisman candidate. You don't have to be Jeff George throwing lasers

 

[Scooch]

We've had one offensive background head coach in how long? Ever? (if we assume life didn't exist before the 80s). That one guy was taken away by the NFL. Can we please try again?

And yet we got the guy who was the only OC in the NFL who didn't call plays.

Syracuse!

 

[orangepassion]

One thing working against Babers is his age, which might have some schools chasing the Fleck/Campbell duo first...which could be very good for Cuse.

I like his age, young enough to stick around 10-12 years, but hopefully old enough to not move on

 

[Chip]

And yet we got the guy who was the only OC in the NFL who didn't call plays.

Syracuse!

Good point.

I'd rather try an offensive minded head coach who has been a playcalling OC and HC...and fail, than to never try at all.

 

[Crusty]

Definitely not, because we're going to beat BC 6-2 and that buys Shafer another season.

We won't score against BC. When do they deem it a tie game?

 

[Crusty]

Had a bad dream last night that Virginia Tech hired Fleck, Miami hired Babers and Miami hired Campbell. We kept Shafer. Yikes, that better not happen.

 

[texascpa]

Just so I'm clear, we're okay with hiring a MAC coach again, right?

 

[Crusty]

Just so I'm clear, we're okay with hiring a MAC coach again, right?

MAC head coach with a Baylor offense, yes.

 

[Crusty]

With all of these coaching projects, the only ones I want are dome-ready guys. If they aren't open minded enough
to pass-to-run, they don't get it. Any damn fool knows that running success will make passing easier. However, running unsuccessfully just creates 3 and outs.

 

[Crusty]

Babers says his system takes a year to install. I would be willing to put up with whatever comes in that first year.

 

[Chip]

Just so I'm clear, we're okay with hiring a MAC coach again, right?

We haven't hired any former MAC head coaches that I can recall.

 

[Millhouse]

Tell me good QBs and WRs wouldn't sign up for this. I don't believe any other NE programruns an offense close to this

when it finally happens, i'm going to try to be only thrilled about it and i'm going to try to not seethe that it took this program so damn long to catch on

 

[texascpa]

MAC head coach with a Baylor offense, yes.

Ah, didn't realize there was a qualifier. Thanks.

 

[texascpa]

We haven't hired any former MAC head coaches that I can recall.

I didn't say head coach. But in any case, whatever's best for the team.

 

[leftytg]

there's a world of difference between hiring a MAC head coach with a proven track record of success leading a program and hiring a MAC coordinator, wouldn't you say?

 

[chakka3421]

You need to bring people into the box and run into them. Spreading people away and running inside is crazy talk!!

Like LSU, Alabama's offense is just this - just run them over - old Saban offense but with the athletes they have like many SEC teams they can do this. Teams like us need to spread it out unless our OL is like LSU and we recruit a RB like Fournette...hopefully our new AD gets it.

I think the ACC is wide open for exploitation just like what happened in the B12 and now the MAC & AAC. Those spread OCs get hired by these 2 conferences first so hopefully get lucky and get a guys like Babers or Campbell - both students of the spread.

 

[TheCusian]

there's a world of difference between hiring a MAC head coach with a proven track record of success leading a program and hiring a MAC coordinator, wouldn't you say?

Shafer's got more on the resume than MAC coordinator. His time at Stanford and here were pretty good as coordinator. Didn't translate to HC, but we've never hire a MAC coordinator as HC.

 

[texascpa]

there's a world of difference between hiring a MAC head coach with a proven track record of success leading a program and hiring a MAC coordinator, wouldn't you say?

That MAC coordinator had success. I just know the last couple months there were plenty of posters railing against the possibility of hiring MAC. Again, I want what's best for the team.

 

[Millhouse]

Like LSU, Alabama's offense is just this - just run them over - old Saban offense but with the athletes they have like many SEC teams they can do this. Teams like us need to spread it out unless our OL is like LSU and we recruit a RB like Fournette...hopefully our new AD gets it.

I think the ACC is wide open for exploitation just like what happened in the B12 and now the MAC & AAC. Those spread OCs get hired by these 2 conferences first so hopefully get lucky and get a guys like Babers or Campbell - both students of the spread.

alabama has to worry about stopping every offense on their schedule because they're shooting for never losing a game. you run a jack of all trades offense that you can get by with on talent and your defense gets to practice against it.

me, i accept that this offense might make it difficult to prepare for every offense you might face and i accept that it might hurt your own defense in practice but whatever, i'll take my chances on outscoring people because multiple pro style offenses just don't work well enough with our talent

 

[leftytg]

That MAC coordinator had success. I just know the last couple months there were plenty of posters railing against the possibility of hiring MAC. Again, I want what's best for the team.

so I take it your answer is a no to the question I posed. You don't see a world of difference between hiring a head coach with a proven track record of success leading a program and hiring a MAC coordinator.

Ok.

 

[leftytg]

Shafer's got more on the resume than MAC coordinator. His time at Stanford and here were pretty good as coordinator. Didn't translate to HC, but we've never hire a MAC coordinator as HC.

I agree. I was just going with the argument presented.

texascpa seems to be taking a measure of delight in tweaking people for wanting to hire a MAC head coach. I think most folks see a difference between hiring a MAC head coach who has shown success (something Syracuse has never done, as you pointed out) and hiring a successful MAC coordinator.

 

[Millhouse]

I agree. I was just going with the argument presented.

texascpa seems to be taking a measure of delight in tweaking people for wanting to hire a MAC head coach. I think most folks see a difference between hiring a MAC head coach who has shown success (something Syracuse has never done, as you pointed out) and hiring a successful MAC coordinator.

stanford's defense was pretty bad in shafer's lone year out there. 91st in yards per play. better in scoring defense because they were 34th in turnovers (6th in fumbles - lucky) BRUTAL schedule though