Love Tyus but I think he is a better 1B than 1A. He needs to be the Robin not the Batman. Problem is this year we had a team full of Robin's and Alfred's and no Batman.
And the hits just keep on coming.
I’m burnt on Brissett
I consider Tyus the second most clutch player of the Boeheim era after GMac.
Well, I think Andy Rautins, Jonny Flynn and Eric Devendorf are up there, too.
Battle had:
-buzzer beater vs Clemson, 2017
-game winner with a couple seconds left vs Georgetown, 2019
-game clinching shot vs Michigan State in tourney, 2018
-game clinching three vs Maryland, 2018
-the three to seal the lead with a minute left in OT vs. Arizona State in the tourney last year
-and everyone remembers Gillon's buzzer beater vs Duke in 2017, but frosh Tyus made a ton of elbow jumpers in the final few minutes to hold the score steady.
I know I'm missing some more.
Saying he was better than all those other guys, well, I'm not sure.
Battle had:
-buzzer beater vs Clemson, 2017
-game winner with a couple seconds left vs Georgetown, 2019
-game clinching shot vs Michigan State in tourney, 2018
-game clinching three vs Maryland, 2018
-the three to seal the lead with a minute left in OT vs. Arizona State in the tourney last year
-and everyone remembers Gillon's buzzer beater vs Duke in 2017, but frosh Tyus made a ton of elbow jumpers in the final few minutes to hold the score steady.
I know I'm missing some more.
Specifically talking volume of clutch moments over the course of their SU career. Nothing more than that.
On March 22, 2019, IthacaMatt and Eric 13 had a back and forth about players everyone loves. Cuseinseattle was just releaved to not be discussing the state of the program with people who only seem to surface after losses and have less than 1000 posts.Here's one game from Andy that I know we all remember:
Rautins had 20 points, and made six 3-pointers in the epic six overtime game against Connecticut in the Big East tournament. Rautins made a crucial 3-pointer in the final seconds of the third overtime, forcing a fourth. Rautins also made the go-ahead 3-pointer in the sixth overtime, giving Syracuse their first lead since the end of regulation to help lead to the historic win.
Plus a couple other noteworthy performances:
On November 20, 2009, Rautins would lead Syracuse to an 87–71 upset of then-No. 4 North Carolina with 11 points, seven rebounds, seven assists and seven steals.
On December 10, 2009, Rautins played 39 minutes and scored 16 points and handed out five assists as Syracuse knocked off then-No. 10 Florida 85–73.
Here's the case for Jonny Flynn:
In his first game ever, on November 12, 2007, Flynn scored 28 points which eclipsed former Orange standout Carmelo Anthony's record for most points in a freshman's debut.
Flynn scored 25 points and hit a 3-pointer with 6.4 seconds left in regulation as Syracuse defeated then-No. 23 ESPN/USA Today, No. 22 AP Kansas 89–81 in overtime in the championship game of the CBE Classic. Flynn was named MVP of the Tournament.
Flynn's leaping ability was on display on a January 11, 2009, game against Rutgers. With Syracuse clinging to a 52–48 lead, Flynn drove to the hoop and threw down a monstrous dunk over 6-foot-3 Rutgers guard Michael Rosario as he attempted to draw a charge.
In the quarterfinals of the 2009 Big East Tournament on March 12 and 13, Flynn led the Orange to a 127–117 win in six overtimes over the favored University of Connecticut Huskies. Flynn played 67 out of a possible 70 minutes on the floor that evening, leading the Orange by scoring 34 points, adding 11 assists and making all 16 of his free throw attempts.
The next day, Flynn then played all 45 minutes of Syracuse's 74–69 overtime victory over the West Virginia Mountaineers in the Big East semifinals. He scored 15 points and had 9 assists.
are you really surprised. Leaving last year, this year, or next year changes nothing. He's a fringe NBA guy who will end up overseas. Might as well earn money a year quicker.
No for the 10th time I was 99 pct sure he was gone. I said it was a hit not the same thing.are you really surprised. Leaving last year, this year, or next year changes nothing. He's a fringe NBA guy who will end up overseas. Might as well earn money a year quicker.
He needs to understand his strengths and stop trying be all around player ( for nba) shootings 3s and hurting teamAs long as we can get a good center late, I'm OK with him moving on.
I think we just saw his ceiling this year.
Wow, that’s damn good. Thanks for that. I forgot about a couple of those. You could also give him credit for turning the tide against Virginia in the Dome his freshman year. He took Kyle Guy and Ty Jerome to ankle-break school using his dribble getting to the basket and pulling up for jumpers, and they couldn’t stop him at all.Battle had:
-buzzer beater vs Clemson, 2017
-game winner with a couple seconds left vs Georgetown, 2019
-game clinching shot vs Michigan State in tourney, 2018
-game clinching three vs Maryland, 2018
-the three to seal the lead with a minute left in OT vs. Arizona State in the tourney last year
-and everyone remembers Gillon's buzzer beater vs Duke in 2017, but frosh Tyus made a ton of elbow jumpers in the final few minutes to hold the score steady.
I know I'm missing some more.
Taking the charge from Blake Griffin cements it.Here's the case for Jonny Flynn:
In his first game ever, on November 12, 2007, Flynn scored 28 points which eclipsed former Orange standout Carmelo Anthony's record for most points in a freshman's debut.
Flynn scored 25 points and hit a 3-pointer with 6.4 seconds left in regulation as Syracuse defeated then-No. 23 ESPN/USA Today, No. 22 AP Kansas 89–81 in overtime in the championship game of the CBE Classic. Flynn was named MVP of the Tournament.
Flynn's leaping ability was on display on a January 11, 2009, game against Rutgers. With Syracuse clinging to a 52–48 lead, Flynn drove to the hoop and threw down a monstrous dunk over 6-foot-3 Rutgers guard Michael Rosario as he attempted to draw a charge.
In the quarterfinals of the 2009 Big East Tournament on March 12 and 13, Flynn led the Orange to a 127–117 win in six overtimes over the favored University of Connecticut Huskies. Flynn played 67 out of a possible 70 minutes on the floor that evening, leading the Orange by scoring 34 points, adding 11 assists and making all 16 of his free throw attempts.
The next day, Flynn then played all 45 minutes of Syracuse's 74–69 overtime victory over the West Virginia Mountaineers in the Big East semifinals. He scored 15 points and had 9 assists.
Do you think we wouldn't have been as good if Flynn came back? I always wondered what a team with Flynn and Johnson together would have been like.Not necessarily. It all depends on chemistry and complimentary skill sets.
I have zero doubt that people said the same thing about Eric Devendorf leaving, or Johnny Flynn.
Maybe we are operating off different definitions of clutch. I think of it as critical baskets in the final minutes/moments of games. Flynn’s dunk over Rosario was awesome (I saw it in person), but that’s a not a clutch play.
6.4 seconds left to beat Kansas in OT to win a tournament at the Garden?