BC and JB presser

[Brooky03]

I think reporters are entitled to answers. At the very least, they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't ask them. Yes, they probably ask stupid questions from time to time but I think Boeheim delivers more snark than they ask bad questions.

Does this mean I think he's a bad coach? Of course not. Does it make him a bad person? No, from everything I've heard, this isn't typical of his behavior outside these situations. All I conclude from it is that JB can't help himself sometimes when speaking. I've been guilty of that myself.

They're entitled to ask them. They're not entitled to get them.

 

[Townie72]

I'm a fan of SU hoops in spite of JB. I'll admit it, I think his time is done. 40 years and 1 championship is enough.

And I see very little fundamental skills development in players while they are on the Hill. I've been saying that for years.

But to your point, the question itself was NOT designed to catch JB in a gotcha moment. It was asking what JB will do to ensure he gets maximum effort out of Roberson on the offensive glass without causing us to lose Roberson to fouls in a more competitive game should the situation arise. I think it's a fair question.

You and I disagree on what a "fair question" is.

And since you confessed to not liking Boeheim that probably colors your opinion.

 

[pearl31]

I can't believe coach Boeheim is being a jerk in press conferences. I mean, in the past, he was always cordial and accommodating. It creates a moral dilemma for me, because I, as a fan, need the coach of my team to be nice in press conferences. It is very important to rehash this topic ad nauseam year after year so that we ultimately will arrive at a cathartic consensus. We just need to keep rehashing and reminding one another how a press conference jerk for a coach has ruined a once-proud program.

 

[sabach]

So let me get this straight. JB had cancer, and he can relate to others who have cancer? Wow. Let's give Jimmy a medal. If anything it just reinforces that he chooses when he wants to be a and when he wants to be a civil and warm human being. Being nice to cancer patients is the lowest common denominator for human empathy.

And then we have others saying it's ok to be a if you've been at your job long enough. Sounds legit.

And then we have some saying he can be a if he doesn't like the questioning or if he isn't in a good mood. Is that how you would teach your kids to handle adversity? It shouldn't matter if the questions are stupid or repetitive. Be a professional. It's really not that hard if you put some effort into it.

Others say as long as he wins games, you'd could care less what he does in press conferences. I'm in the same boat - ignorance is bliss. But these last 2-3 years he isn't winning. His ACC record is abysmal. We'll most likely have 1 NCAA win to show for the last 3 years. So, yeah, the off-the-court BS just stands out even more now.

I think we all choose when we want to be a dick and when we want to be a civil and warm human being. That is part of being a "human being". I just do not judge JB the person solely from what we see in the pressers as what we see in the pressers is, from what I have been told and from what I have experienced personally, not consistent with JB as a person. FWIW, I think JB has numerous medals given to him for what he has done for cancer research.
That said, I have said repeatedly in this thread that I do not like how JB conducts his pressers from time to time so I am not sure why you chose my post to go off on.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

Honest question - why do you watch them? Do you think the behavior is going to change?

ah if you don't likeit you could move to another country!

 

[Townie72]

"Tyler needs to be careful that he is not too aggressive on the defensive end. We want him to steal and rebound and play tough defense but not at the expense of having to sit on the bench because of foul trouble." You can give a "non answer" answer without looking like a jerk.

Giving "non-answers" is your recommendation?

Sure. You can hear non-answers continually from just about every coach in America in every sport. It's all part of the dance between the Press and the coaches. It's questions the press supposedly "has to ask" and answers perfectly crafted to appear to answer the question but do not. And at the conclusion of the dance we are all dumber for having watched it.

But it's a colossal waste of time and effort.

And a colossal waste of an opportunity as JB is perfectly willing to be forthright at this stage in his career.

 

[sabach]

Giving "non-answers" is your recommendation?

Sure. You can hear non-answers continually from just about every coach in America in every sport. It's all part of the dance between the Press and the coaches. It's questions the press supposedly "has to ask" and answers perfectly crafted to appear to answer the question but do not. And at the conclusion of the dance we are all dumber for having watched it.

But it's a colossal waste of time and effort.

And a colossal waste of an opportunity as JB is perfectly willing to be forthright at this stage in his career.

My recommendation is giving a non answer is better than giving a dick answer.

 

[81South]

I can't believe coach Boeheim is being a jerk in press conferences. I mean, in the past, he was always cordial and accommodating. It creates a moral dilemma for me, because I, as a fan, need the coach of my team to be nice in press conferences. It is very important to rehash this topic ad nauseam year after year so that we ultimately will arrive at a cathartic consensus. We just need to keep rehashing and reminding one another how a press conference jerk for a coach has ruined a once-proud program.

Agree, however many topics are rehashed on here every season. And for those who don't like it there is always the option of ignoring the thread which is what I do when I see a thread on something I have no interest in discussing.

Right or wrong, how Coach conducts himself with the press seems to strike a nerve with a good number of us.

Again, I love Coach and his overall body of work on the court/sidelines, his work within our community and his efforts to raise money for cancer research.

 

[Townie72]

My recommendation is giving a non answer is better than giving a dick answer.

Sure. Because you are offended by the so-called "dick" answer. It seems "harsh" to you and you may empathize with the reporter or whatever.

I don't see it that way.

"Good" is what I think, "Go get 'em, Jim".

 

[cuseguy]

Sure. Because you are offended by the so-called "dick" answer. It seems "harsh" to you and you may empathize with the reporter or whatever. I don't see it that way. "Good" is what I think, "Go get 'em, Jim".

I think he needs to be a little more understanding with college-age reporters from the Daily Orange and alike.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Sure. Because you are offended by the so-called "dick" answer. It seems "harsh" to you and you may empathize with the reporter or whatever.

I don't see it that way.

"Good" is what I think, "Go get 'em, Jim".

IOW Boeheim can act however he likes because 900 wins.

Got it.

 

[Townie72]

IOW Boeheim can act however he likes because 900 wins.

Got it.

No. He can't throw things at them. He cannot assault them. There's lots of things he cannot do.

But 900 wins ought to count for something. 40 years ought to count for something.

Having to sit there and listen to these dumb or loaded questions a thousand times ought to have some value.

Go get em, Jim. Make them ask questions that 1.) There is an answer to. 2.) That you can reasonably be expected to give a public answer to. (e.g That don't broach topics that you are going to cover with a player personally later and which would expose the player to external pressure or criticism)

 

[bevosu]

I am a huge Boeheim supporter, but IMO there is nothing to admire about his press conferences. To paraphrase Freud, "Old age is the multiplier of neurosis." Older age + NCAA sanctions = Bitter Boeheim. I wish he could throw off this bitterness, but at the moment it ain't happening.

To paraphrase Freud, "Old age is the multiplier of neurosis."

Woody Allen must be a total wreck by now.

 

[Townie72]

I think he needs to be a little more understanding with college-age reporters from the Daily Orange and alike.

OK. Let's have two Press Conferences. One in which the real Press gets to ask whatever they want and in which JB gets to answer or not answer any way. And another in which reporters learn to ask questions.

This is the Big Leagues. People's careers are on the line here. Reputations can be made or damaged.

If you are a beginning skier, you need to stay off the triple black diamond trails.

 

[CuseHulk]

IOW Boeheim can act however he likes because 900 wins.

Got it.

How many wins and national championships do these reporters have ?

Then they question his in game moves and a big one number of minutes a certain player plays.

BTW, Media u do not speak and represent the fans. If we wanna ask him why he did this or play him and that we can ask him by calling in on his or one of his assistants radio shows or if i see him at Wegmans Dewitt i would strike up a conversation. But I or no fan should question moves he makes in games or when it comes to recruiting because he has forgotten more basketball then we will ever know. He knows that, I know that, the media obviously does not.

 

[Conrad13]

OK. Let's have two Press Conferences. One in which the real Press gets to ask whatever they want and in which JB gets to answer or not answer any way. And another in which reporters learn to ask questions.

This is the Big Leagues. People's careers are on the line here. Reputations can be made or damaged.

If you are a beginning skier, you need to stay off the triple black diamond trails.

I think that the obvious solution here is to let SWC75 ask all of the questions at press conferences.

 

[SWC75]

I think that the obvious solution here is to let SWC75 ask all of the questions at press conferences.

I'm smart. I wait until he's got a mouth full of Chicken Marsala at Delmonico's to ask him questions. '-' Steve

 

[RandygoCuse]

How many wins and national championships do these reporters have ?

Then they question his in game moves and a big one number of minutes a certain player plays.

BTW, Media u do not speak and represent the fans. If we wanna ask him why he did this or play him and that we can ask him by calling in on his or one of his assistants radio shows or if i see him at Wegmans Dewitt i would strike up a conversation. But I or no fan should question moves he makes in games or when it comes to recruiting because he has forgotten more basketball then we will ever know. He knows that, I know that, the media obviously does not.

Winning games and championships should not be a prerequisite to asking questions at a press conference. It's a reporter's job to ask questions. It's a necessary part of living somewhere with a free press. And being able to answer them honestly, logically, and directly is the sign of a leader making informed decisions. JB can answer with snark if he wants, but it doesn't mean he's justified in doing so.

 

[br801]

JB's pressers used to be entertaining. The last two were just sour. Oh Lord

JB isn't exactly breaking new ground here in press conference surliness, IMO.

 

[NineOneSeven]

I also just want to say- only those wearing the most orange of glasses cant understand why so many other fans dislike Jim. Regardless of how right or wrong you think it is (remember, he coaches the team we all love, so it's impossible to remove all bias, myself included), it's quite easy to see why so many have these feelings.

 

[cuseguy]

OK. Let's have two Press Conferences. One in which the real Press gets to ask whatever they want and in which JB gets to answer or not answer any way. And another in which reporters learn to ask questions. This is the Big Leagues. People's careers are on the line here. Reputations can be made or damaged. If you are a beginning skier, you need to stay off the triple black diamond trails.

Well, maybe they can have a JV press conference and Hop can conduct it with reporters from the DO and other thin skinned scribes.

 

[HOFCeluck]

How many wins and national championships do these reporters have ?

Then they question his in game moves and a big one number of minutes a certain player plays.

BTW, Media u do not speak and represent the fans. If we wanna ask him why he did this or play him and that we can ask him by calling in on his or one of his assistants radio shows or if i see him at Wegmans Dewitt i would strike up a conversation. But I or no fan should question moves he makes in games or when it comes to recruiting because he has forgotten more basketball then we will ever know. He knows that, I know that, the media obviously does not.

Have you considered sharing your takes with the .com crowd?

They'd treat you like royalty.

 

[Col. Bleep]

Two thoughts under one subject - was that the worst ACC team we have ever seen? Wow were they bad.

As for JB presser - I get he doesn't want to do them. I get that the question are not always worthy of response. I also get that "JB is going to be JB" and "he's earned the right to do what he wants", but I personally am sick of the eye roll and the obvious "you are not worthy of my genius" attitude that he shows local press and SU students.

It's 10 minutes be a pro and cut the snark. To me he comes across as a bully, and it isn't a good look.

And before I get flamed - I know I"m in the minority here, at least among posters.

You're exactly right.

But professionals shouldn't care very much.
Dealing with jerky behavior is part of the job and often the jerkier a person is, the better the material you get for a story.
At least that's true in TV.

But...copping an attitude and trying to bully students is really despicable.
A coach - any coach - is still an instructor and an employee of the university.
As such he should be civil to students and - if anything - go the extra mile (or inch) for them.
After all, at private schools they pay the coach's salary.

 

[HOFCeluck]

No. He can't throw things at them. He cannot assault them. There's lots of things he cannot do.

But 900 wins ought to count for something. 40 years ought to count for something.

Having to sit there and listen to these dumb or loaded questions a thousand times ought to have some value.

Go get em, Jim. Make them ask questions that 1.) There is an answer to. 2.) That you can reasonably be expected to give a public answer to. (e.g That don't broach topics that you are going to cover with a player personally later and which would expose the player to external pressure or criticism)

Why? Why do you get a license to be verbally abusive after a set time? It doesn't work that way in my job.

It's weird to see people go to lengths to defend behavior that most would find abhorrent in a child...let alone a grown man.

 

[FrancoPizza]

900 wins ought to count for something. 40 years ought to count for something.

Yes it does, you know what it counts for? It means he gets to stay on and coach another year. There are no license-to-be-a-dick incentives written into his contract... or any contract... that I'm aware.

Your blind support of JB's behavior is approaching some pretty unhealthy levels. I'm sure there's a gif out there for this.