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Of course he's not above constructive criticism.. But you cross the idiot line when you say he needs to go. (not speaking about you)..

Just how constructive is the criticism depends on its source. Those who haven't been there and done that may have some criticism to offer but not likely of the constructive sort. If one of Boeheim's peers offers him some advice, that could be said to be constructive. But a random, anonymous poster on a message board...no disrespect intended...it's a grandiose stretch to say that sort of criticism is constructive.
 
So you're saying that yelling at a ref over a bad call and yelling at one of your players over a bad play are the same?

Yes, sometimes even the best of us lose our temper. Jb wanted that Duke game badly, and knew that call cost us the game, I can't blame him for reacting the way he did.
 
I don't know what games people have been looking at ...BJ has no interest in defense and if you don't play defense for Boehiem you're not gonna play. I've never seen Boehiem as mad at a player as he was at BJ ...good thing it was a televised game or it might of gotten ugly... Patterson is getting playing time because his defense is so much better then Joesph's...I thing he might have a future here because of that.

Why does Joseph play so much then?
 
[QUOTE="two3zone, post: 1295044, member: 3651"]Because there is nobody else.[/QUOTE]

We're better with G at PG. We're far better with Patterson on the floor - stats back that up fairly clearly.

We're willing to push people 40 minutes. So...not sure that's true. Heck, maybe BJ could play top of the zone, he did early in the year. Just saying, the whole, "people who don't play D, don't play" argument isn't always such a straight line equation.

Because Joseph.
 
Anyone who's played sports at just about any level knows one fundamental fact: The coach doesn't waste his time on players he doesn't think can improve. As a player, you're taught very young that if you're not playing and the coach isn't on you, it's time to worry because he doesn't think you can help the team. The coach's kiss of death to a player is ignoring him. Now, if you're playing all the time and not hearing it from the coach--Ennis last year--that's one thing, but sitting and getting ignored, well, either you might want to find another line of work, or the message is you're on your own to get better.

The fact that Boeheim is on BJ means he thinks the player has much, much, much more in him than he's currently showing. It's a good thing and all the other stuff about yelling at him in public, calling out players in press conferences, blah, blah, really is pretty silly. The point is, does the coach think the player can get better? If he does, the player gets the coach's attention, in whatever delivery format. If not, he doesn't. As for the delivery, if the player can't get used to hearing the message while dispensing with the format, he's got a huge problem because it doesn't get any easier at the higher levels, whether it's playing ball or holding down a job. Anyone who's played or had to hang in there with a tough boss knows that. Bosses typically don't yell at you anymore but they're not usually your friends and you'd better be ready to hear stuff from them you may not like.

Most of you seem to think of the coaching relationship as one of parent to child--it's got nothing, as in absolutely nothing, to do with that. The coach isn't your friend, he's not your mommy or daddy, he's the coach and his job is to get the most out of you he thinks is there. With BJ, obviously Boeheim believes he's got a lot there. Many kudos to BJ's dad, who obviously fully understands how this stuff works.

And here lies a much larger dilemma today in our culture and the younger generation whose parents pampered and coddled them their entire lives. If you're of the age where you refer to your parents as mommy and daddy, they should not be your friend, but your PARENT! A parent should not be a child's 'friend' until after their teenage years...
 
Are we really getting this soft as a society where what JB did to BJ is viewed this negative. I just didn't see the interaction between coach and player in this situation to be bad at all. Iv seen other coaches actually scream at a player and thought wow that's a bit much, this situation I saw a coach who put a player in and wanted him to give more effort and get into the game and produce positively. I saw it as encouragement and him tapping him on the chest was a you can do better than this.

In this case the outrage is due to agenda.
 
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And this isn't a What?
 
And this isn't a What?

Listen Cali, I don't want you to be the guy in the PG-13 movie everyone's *really* hoping makes it happen. I want you to be like the guy in the rated R movie, you know, the guy you're not sure whether or not you like yet. You're not sure where he's coming from. Okay? You're a bad man. You're a bad man, Cali. You're a bad man, bad man.
 
Listen Cali, I don't want you to be the guy in the PG-13 movie everyone's *really* hoping makes it happen. I want you to be like the guy in the rated R movie, you know, the guy you're not sure whether or not you like yet. You're not sure where he's coming from. Okay? You're a bad man. You're a bad man, Cali. You're a bad man, bad man.
The best, G. I needed that. Y Salud!
 
JB was fine today. He was pleading with BJ to play smarter and harder. If you can't take getting yelled at, then you shouldn't be playing. If a coach stops getting on you, he has given up on you. There's way too many people in today's world who's afraid of kids self-esteem getting hurt. We're creating a bunch of spoiled, lazy kids who don't know what it takes to be really good at something. We need more JB's not less. Show me a great coach who doesn't get after his players and I'll show you a loser.
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I can't see Buss transfering hes our best on the ball defender next year and its not even close.
Keep that in mind next year. We would be losing something really special if we lost him. And the coaches HAVE to know that by now because alot of us do.

BJ has to make some shots to play. Plain and simple. And right now hes showing a selfish baskebtall nature like good shooters do hes going to take that shot.

If you want to come off the bench at syracuse you have to have a special skill or help the team gain momentum and go on runs. If you can't do that in your four years at syracuse no matter how much confidence or opinion you have then you aren't going to play until you learn to.
 
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If BJ can learn to play good defense, he'd average 7-8 minutes a game. Average 7pts a game too and he'd get 10-12 minutes.
 

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