Buddy suspended for Duke

[djcon57]

Didn't know this, but if you were curious of a similar incident Chris Paul was one

yeah but he punched Julius Hodge so who cares

 

[BillSU]

The craziest thing about this whole situation is if you had asked me who in all of college basketball would be least likely to be suspended for throwing a punch - it would be the ever smiling Buddy Boeheim...feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone...

Don’t judge any book by its cover and watch out for smiling, over friendly people that you just tried to elbow and get out of the way. Wyatt also had consequences to his actions - minor, and he looked like a poor actor trying to get a foul called. If Buddy had kept his hand open and used his arm carefully to get Wyatt out of the way, and if the refs had actually done their job, we wouldn’t be having this entire thread of conversations.

 

[Sherman20]

It's great to have Jay in your corner, but he has such a reputation of ruffling the feathers of administration, I wonder how many people even take him seriously on stuff like this.

He repeats himself several times in this and he has a few different points that don't relate.

The one that interests me is what he said about the game being over and it not being reviewable. Does SU have any chance to put in an emergency appeal on this? Assume they would have already done so.

It’s crazy that we have Jay Bilas in our corner arguing that Buddy shouldn’t be suspended, and we have Cuse fans arguing in favor of Buddy’s suspension.

Good lord this is an embarrassing take. Grasping for straws..

You do know that fan is short for fanatic, right? Fans aren’t supposed to be rational, especially in the heat of a moment like this. We could use a little more fanaticism on here in defense of Buddy, at least in the immediate aftermath of a 40 point win. I guess everybody just hates this season and wants the misery to be over with.

 

[TheCusian]

So when they went to review something shortly after and did nothing - we’re *sure* the refs didn’t get a directive to not eject him for the game but save it for Duke?

Tinfoil looks good on me

 

[Toga]

Don’t judge any book by its cover and watch out for smiling, over friendly people that you just tried to elbow and get out of the way. Wyatt also had consequences to his actions - minor, and he looked like a poor actor trying to get a foul called. If Buddy had kept his hand open and used his arm carefully to get Wyatt out of the way, and if the refs had actually done their job, we wouldn’t be having this entire thread of conversations.

Wishes won't wash the dishes.
- My Mom

 

[CuseFaninVT]

wasn't able to watch game. Was Benny on the bench? His absence Saturday was noticed and somewhat conspicuous.

FFS

 

[Scooch]

Yes buddy was the root cause. But the refs have a job and they didn’t do it.

Two things. (1) I have a feeling that had Buddy been ejected during the game there’d be a lot of the same people here kvetching that’s he was unfairly tossed. (2) It’s quite likely he’d get a suspension even if he had been tossed. Punching has become the ultimate sin in basketball, for whatever reason.

 

[blust2i3d4]

Just stop

People should not just watch the highlight ESPN show later but also five seconds earlier leading to the incident. I have DVR the game. Buddy just reacted to the dirty push.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

If we take the court, we probably lose.

If we don't take the court, we definitely lose.

 

[Orangezoo]

It’s crazy that we have Jay Bilas in our corner arguing that Buddy shouldn’t be suspended, and we have Cuse fans arguing in favor of Buddy’s suspension.

You do know that fan is short for fanatic, right? Fans aren’t supposed to be rational, especially in the heat of a moment like this. We could use a little more fanaticism on here in defense of Buddy, at least in the immediate aftermath of a 40 point win. I guess everybody just hates this season and wants the misery to be over with.

Arguing whether it was legit vs what we wanted is two very different things. If you think the preference here is he gets suspended then you are mistaken.

I'm frustrated that a key player made such a bone headed play at a critical time and that at a point in the game where we had a large advantage. Over the years plenty of times we have had different challenges due to poor decisions. So I'm not having my fan/alum card challenged over not being irrationally against the logic of a decision that isn't without merit.

 

[JeffCuse]

Two things. (1) I have a feeling that had Buddy been ejected during the game there’d be a lot of the same people here kvetching that’s he was unfairly tossed. (2) It’s quite likely he’d get a suspension even if he had been tossed. Punching has become the ultimate sin in basketball, for whatever reason.

If the officials reviewed it and assessed an -2 I would have been annoyed but moved on. The rules allow for that interpretation.

There is nothing about the rules that allow the conference to retroactively assign that action a -2 grade. It just doesn't exist.

Based on that, Syracuse absolutely should appeal the decision, and close enough to game time tomorrow that the appeal cannot be judged until after the game. I don't think they WILL, but they should.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

If you were playing basketball and you were looking up for a rebound and some guy came at you with a full force hip check, I'd bet you would have a different take. That was a dirty and malicious type of play, and dangerous.

How have you not gotten a timeout with all of these increasingly worse, horrendous takes?

 

[Orangezoo]

People should not just watch the highlight ESPN show later but also five seconds earlier leading to the incident. I have DVR the game. Buddy just reacted to the dirty push.

He got aggressively boxed out but there was no dirty push before that or any earlier posession.

 

[rrlbees]

Two things. (1) I have a feeling that had Buddy been ejected during the game there’d be a lot of the same people here kvetching that’s he was unfairly tossed. (2) It’s quite likely he’d get a suspension even if he had been tossed. Punching has become the ultimate sin in basketball, for whatever reason.

I think it would have come down to if they considered it fighting. Fighting they give an automatic 1 game. Otherwise there’s no requirement they give any suspension.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Which, in athletics, means absolutely nothing.

So what? Mother Theresa would have been suspended if she did what Buddy did.

Of course, she's not nearly the shooter from 3 Buddy is, granted.

You know this for certain?

 

[djcon57]

Arguing whether it was legit vs what we wanted is two very different things. If you think the preference here is he gets suspended then you are mistaken.

I'm frustrated that a key player made such a bone headed play at a critical time and that at a point in the game where we had a large advantage. Over the years plenty of times we have had different challenges due to poor decisions. So I'm not having my fan/alum card challenged over not being irrationally against the logic of a decision that isn't without merit.

Personally with what weve seen in this world the last whatever years, I’m just strongly against debating reality even if it affects what I want or like.

he punched him. It happened. Want to debate the punishment, cool. Want to blame the refs for not doing it during they game, cool. But I hate what Jim said and posters suggesting it didn’t happen.

 

[llandz]

Buddy was wrong, plain and simple. Guess who also was wrong, the officials. One will be there tomorrow, and one will not. I have to say, before hearing what Bilas had to say, I thought the suspension was warranted and fair. But Bilas lays out the facts very well along with an argument about the rules. If the ACC is changing the rules, that is not ok. Also, no one asked the ACC to review this other than the ESPN desk crew; not the player, not the Fl. St. coach and not the school. Also I listened to the video from the Fl St. player, and he also is pretty compelling in stating that this was basically a nothing, and that he has been hit much harder so many more times. He does not think this warrants a suspension either. In a court of law, he would be listened to. So it appears the ACC has just gone off on their own little tangent because a couple of ESPN announcers made this a really big deal right after the game. If they had done their due diligence and talked to the "offended victim" and the Fl. St. coach, then maybe they would have looked at this a bit differently.

 

[djcon57]

If the officials reviewed it and assessed an -2 I would have been annoyed but moved on. The rules allow for that interpretation.

There is nothing about the rules that allow the conference to retroactively assign that action a -2 grade. It just doesn't exist.

Based on that, Syracuse absolutely should appeal the decision, and close enough to game time tomorrow that the appeal cannot be judged until after the game. I don't think they WILL, but they should.

Can we appeal Buddy's Suspension?

My understanding is we can appeal and Buddy would be allowed to play WHILE the case is under appeal. Trying to find the exact governing rules. Anyone out there?

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[AZOrange]

A comical end to a comical season

 

[Day2]

I will leave

Promise?

 

[Day2]

I am so glad we both think they’re idiots.

FYI , most of my comments are silly. I have no idea what I’m talking about 90% of the time

In other words, Vegas thinks we have a better shot at winning than you have an idea what you’re talking about.

 

[SUFan44]

 

[AZOrange]

What in God’s name is going on. Did she mean to write “most likely over”? Winning tomorrow wouldn’t even be in the top 10 upsets of the college season all year. I’m just dumbfounded at people thinking we’re playing the Bucks tomorrow. It’s about 5-7% that we win tomorrow. The “zero chance” people are embarrassing themselves.

Dude….

 

[Day2]

You know this for certain?

She was more of a post player.

 

[Sherman20]

Arguing whether it was legit vs what we wanted is two very different things. If you think the preference here is he gets suspended then you are mistaken.

I'm frustrated that a key player made such a bone headed play at a critical time and that at a point in the game where we had a large advantage. Over the years plenty of times we have had different challenges due to poor decisions. So I'm not having my fan/alum card challenged over not being irrationally against the logic of a decision that isn't without merit.

Agreed. But I’m with Bilas on this. Buddy shouldn’t be suspended. Should have been called in game by the refs. The ACC coming in after the fact isn’t right.