Buddy suspended for Duke

[SWC75]

People should not just watch the highlight ESPN show later but also five seconds earlier leading to the incident. I have DVR the game. Buddy just reacted to the dirty push.

A dirty push?

The reaction is always what gets you in trouble.

 

[SWC75]

If the officials reviewed it and assessed an -2 I would have been annoyed but moved on. The rules allow for that interpretation.

There is nothing about the rules that allow the conference to retroactively assign that action a -2 grade. It just doesn't exist.

Based on that, Syracuse absolutely should appeal the decision, and close enough to game time tomorrow that the appeal cannot be judged until after the game. I don't think they WILL, but they should.

Can the suspension be delayed until the appeal is heard and then applied, if necessary, to another game?

 

[thebigeast44]

Just wondering - when was the last time a Syracuse player was suspended for throwing a punch? I can't remember the last time that occurred...

 

[AZOrange]

This has nothing to do with the head coach and whether or not he should retire.

Sure it does. JB sounded nuts today. He’s been off all year

 

[Day2]

Just wondering - when was the last time a Syracuse player was suspended for throwing a punch? I can't remember the last time that occurred...

 

[Day2]

Sure it does. JB sounded nuts today. He’s been off all year

Who cares about what he said? A coach defended his player, who also happens to be his son. How will we survive this travesty?

 

[Day2]

This incident proves that Buddy doesn’t have much experience with fighting…or rebounding.

 

[AZOrange]

Who cares about what he said? A coach defended his player, who also happens to be his son. How will we survive this travesty?

You can’t do that. It should have been an immediate act of contrition. My God what world is this? If one of my players does that I don’t have to wait for a league suspension. Garbage

 

[UpstateSM]

Man I hope this isn’t of the posters I enjoy interacting with on here. We don’t always need to be the victim.

 

[SWC75]

Comically sad. It needs to end. We need new blood

There are a lot of things these days that would be comic if they were funny.

 

[Day2]

You can’t do that. It should have been an immediate act of contrition. My God what world is this? If one of my players does that I don’t have to wait for a league suspension. Garbage

What world were you expecting?

 

[AZOrange]

What world were you expecting?

One where JB admitted it was wrong and apologized for it. He could take Leonard Hamiltons masterclass…

 

[br801]

Coleman, Seikaly and Brower going ham on Cornell…those are “throwing” punches. So much pearl clutching in this thread. Yes, he should have gotten a flagrant foul in game and probably been ejected. But the refs failed to call it or review the play afterwards. You disagree with Bilas? He thinks Buddy shouldn’t be suspended, and neither do I. ESPN playing that clip over and over and Greenberg and Ellis immediately advocating for a suspension made this a thing.

This wasn't on any ESPN talking heads. Anyone with half a brain watching in real time knew it was "a thing" and that there was a very good chance Buddy would face some consequences once the league reviewed the play.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Hyper-technical loophole: ACC suspended Buddy Boeheim, not Jackson T. Boeheim.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

After 39 pages, I notice the underlying delight (not well masked) of some in this thread that Buddy is suspended on a questionable post-game decision is equally correlated to those that have had enough of his father at the helm of the program.

 

[kmart128]

Syracuse really needs to appeal suspension right before game time. That is smartest... cause even if we lose atleast he would have got to play his last game. And if we somehow pull of a miracle id rather not have Buddy against Miami/BC than Duke

 

[CDNCuse]

After 39 pages, I notice the underlying delight (not well masked) of some in this thread that Buddy is suspended on a questionable post-game decision is equally correlated to those that have had enough of his father at the helm of the program.

What makes the suspension "questionable"?

 

[donniesyracuse]

What sucks is this kid’s career is over if we lose.
Between this and the Miami Senior game it honestly sucks.

Kid deserved to leave his sneakers on the court at the end of his last game.

Are people ruling out a CBI invitation?

 

[OttoMets]

Personally with what weve seen in this world the last whatever years, I’m just strongly against debating reality even if it affects what I want or like.

he punched him. It happened. Want to debate the punishment, cool. Want to blame the refs for not doing it during they game, cool. But I hate what Jim said and posters suggesting it didn’t happen.

I've been wondering why for the past 18 hours I'm stuck in this "Somebody's wrong on the internet and needs to be corrected!" mode.

This is why.

The "black is white" crowd, coupled with the player's dishonest (and, naturally, school sanctioned) "I feel bad that I swung my arm" excuse, is just infuriating in this broader context.

I don't care if you're a superfan, hate the ACC, think officiating is arbitrary and capricious (me), deplore the physicality of the game that's come to allow that type of box-out to happen every time down the floor (again, me). But don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

 

[xc84]

What makes the suspension "questionable"?

ask Jay Bilas

 

[OttoMets]

I’m just going to assume that everyone saying Buddy shouldn’t have been suspended also didn’t think Howard should be suspended and/or fired. I mean, there’s no reason for anyone to go through that thread and compare notes, is there?

I think there should be a different set of standards for coaches than players. But, yeah, there are probably going to be some gross inconsistencies if we compare takes between the two analogous arm-swinging incidents.

 

[Bayside44]

Yes buddy was the root cause. But the refs have a job and they didn’t do it.

So refs are supposed to go to the monitor every time a player complains? Serious question.

 

[Bayside44]

It’s crazy that we have Jay Bilas in our corner arguing that Buddy shouldn’t be suspended, and we have Cuse fans arguing in favor of Buddy’s suspension.

You do know that fan is short for fanatic, right? Fans aren’t supposed to be rational, especially in the heat of a moment like this. We could use a little more fanaticism on here in defense of Buddy, at least in the immediate aftermath of a 40 point win. I guess everybody just hates this season and wants the misery to be over with.

He punched a guy.

I appreciate Jay coming down from his mountaintop to address the masses but that wasn't his best work.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

What makes the suspension "questionable"?

There was no flagrant foul called during the game so no automatic review for post-game suspension. No in-game fighting so no review triggered by that. ACC, I guess, has the ability to review every game after they are over as to conduct warranting suspension. Not sure they do that so this seems to be a special circumstance based upon the nature of the game and the eyeballs on it.

Is this happening throughout the season where all games are reviewed after conclusion for suspendable conduct? Is review triggered by a complaint of one of the schools participating? That didn't happen here. Its questionable because its arbitrary. If its not consistently done throughout the season in the same manner its unfair.

Additionally, I haven't seen anyone reference an automatic suspension provision that the ACC used in this matter so its an subjective punishment which by definition could be argued and questioned.

Whether its a flagrant 1 or flagrant 2 is a red herring. Those are in game calls that can be reviewed and changed in game. This was a conduct call made after the game and not governed by those rules to my knowledge.

People obviously have their own opinions as exhibited here but the I'm 100% right, you're 100% wrong crew overstates their argument throughout this thread in my opinion.

If you dare disagree, they name call and shout you down. That is bothersome as I strongly believe its a subjective post-game call pressured by national media where reasonable minds could and have disagreed.

 

[xc84]

"He punched" (1) all punches are not equal (2) as if a "punch" as in this case is worse than an elbow (Wilkes's point) which is rarely called and even more rarely reviewed after a game

Bilas is right.