Coach Search Options after Autry

[wiCuse]

I'm trying to remain optimistic. Seems like we want Hodgson to blow up with the national media as USF continues to win, which is starting to happen. This will give him leverage, other schools with a lot more resources will come calling (probably starting to happen). SU will have to make a decision. Might be hard to pass on the hottest coaching candidate on the market, but that seems very possible...

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'm trying to remain optimistic. Seems like we want Hodgson to blow up with the national media as USF continues to win, which is starting to happen. This will give him leverage, other schools with a lot more resources will come calling (probably starting to happen). SU will have to make a decision. Might be hard to pass on the hottest coaching candidate on the market, but that seems very possible...

What are we supposed to do? We can’t hire him now. If we don’t hire him it feels very much like the powers at be will have made a short sighted decision.

 

[dasher]

So Dash, do you really think that if they feel Hodgson is the better coach they will be willing to overlook the (supposed) $30 mil? Not trying to be snarky, genuinely want your read on the members you know.

yes. If they think BH is the better choice over anything, they will pick him.

 

[Briancuse]

What are we supposed to do? We can’t hire him now. If we don’t hire him it feels very much like the powers at be will have made a short sighted decision.

If we don't hire bh the entire bot should lose their jobs. This hire checks all the boxes

 

[RF2044]

$5M total roster money?!?! No. He’ll need double that. $5M is less than anyone in the SEC or Big. MAYBE middle of the pack ACC or Big12.

I said NIL, intentionally. And yes -- he would easily be able to build a competitive roster for that amount of NIL expenditure alone, given what we're seeing at USF. And what we saw at Buffalo, under Oates [and Hodgson].

I feel he could win with the money we had this year. 4-6 million NIL plus all the other money, totalling 8-11 million in money spent. I think that is enough money in his system to build a program that can win on a regular basis. From what people have said in this thread and what I have seen around, I don't think NIL will be an issue under Hodgson I he understands the landscape. I would rather build something stable like that than have a one-time random big sum of money that is promised and "maybe" delivered.

I think once he wins, that 4-6 million will increase, as people will want to be a part of Syracuse being a winner again. I think Syracuse would probably top out about 6-9 million of pure NIL annually, putting them about 11-14 million overall budget yearly.

Nailed it.

 

[Briancuse]

yes. If they think BH is the better choice over anything, they will pick him.

Unless they cave into Melos demands because he's melo.

 

[dasher]

If you know a better or more entertaining way to get information and form opinions by all means let us know.

I haven’t found one. Social media is a plague and the other sites, radio and podcast guys are just retreading the same info here only a few days or weeks later.

I don't have any problem with the message boards obviously. I have been here longer than some on here have been alive. But it isn't right to demean people you don't know or question their motives.

 

[Bayside44]

I said NIL.

5 mil rev share plus 5 mil NIL?

 

[dasher]

Unless they cave into Melos demands because he's melo.

It won't be because they cave in to any demands. They will look to see if the 30 million is for real. Among other things.

 

[RF2044]

5 mil rev share plus 5 mil NIL?

Correct [or thereabouts -- maybe it would total $9M, or be higher at $11-12M total]. Which wouldn't break the bank -- that is a sustainable combination / amount.

 

[dasher]

5 mil rev share plus 5 mil NIL?

We won't have 5 million revenue share for hoop. It will be less than that. And no matter what system we use, we need a lot more than 5 million overall for the hoop team. BH isn't a magician. We need 10 million. I don't care how you slice it. kids may like a system. They like money more. And I don't blame them.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I don't have any problem with the message boards obviously. I have been here longer than some on here have been alive. But it isn't right to demean people you don't know or question their motives.

Bahahahaha!

But it IS okay to insult their "standards" though, right?

 

[dasher]

Correct. Which wouldn't break the bank -- that is a sustainable combination / amount.

We aren't getting 5 million from the revenue share. Most will go to football.

 

[McCuse]

yes. If they think BH is the better choice over anything, they will pick him.

Let's hope so.

 

[Briancuse]

We won't have 5 million revenue share for hoop. It will be less than that. And no matter what system we use, we need a lot more than 5 million overall for the hoop team. BH isn't a magician. We need 10 million. I don't care how you slice it. kids may like a system. They like money more. And I don't blame them.

Where is hop getting all of this money from?

 

[Bayside44]

We aren't getting 5 million from the revenue share. Most will go to football.

The get in # total for all parties involved has to be north of 8.

BH has his work cut out for himself.

 

[Bayside44]

Where is hop getting all of this money from?

#15

 

[RF2044]

We won't have 5 million revenue share for hoop. It will be less than that. And no matter what system we use, we need a lot more than 5 million overall for the hoop team. BH isn't a magician. We need 10 million. I don't care how you slice it. kids may like a system. They like money more. And I don't blame them.

Remember Jeenathan Williams? BH is going to recruit a bunch of guys like that, who are athletic and hard nosed, and get after it defensively and on the glass.

Unlike what some believed we needed to do to overcome Red's limitations by throwing money at the problem, Hodgson will get guys who are athletic, can play, will work hard, and be receptive to being coached up. He doesn't have to be a magician -- just confident in his system and ability to recruit to it.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

It’s GMAC

Are you a troll or a tool?

 

[sufan59]

Locked in on the bigger picture too

 

[Jake]

We aren't getting 5 million from the revenue share. Most will go to football.

I believe the rev share will be 3M ish. Would need $10-$12M total. So you’d $7-9 NIL.

 

[DanielA]

White already has a portal suitor.

That can mean a lot of different things Donnie had a lot of suitors last year and he stayed. Do you think diq stays?

 

[TommyA13]

At this point if it’s not BH, Syracuse will never be able to be Syracuse again

 

[richmondcuse03]

I believe the rev share will be 3M ish. Would need $10-$12M total. So you’d $7-9 NIL.

I would think 15-4-1 rev share split amongst the big three

 

[phil77]

I believe the rev share will be 3M ish. Would need $10-$12M total. So you’d $7-9 NIL.

Plus 1 million NIL tournament. So 3 million rev sharing 1 million NIL Tournament 4-6 million NIL. That is about 10 million total, which is about what were this year. I think that is fine. to start.