Coach Search Options after Autry

[Cusefan0307]

It will excite many of the fanatical fanbase here but most of the fan base will say “who are they? “. If it excites the big money people who donate to NIL is what is important. The rest of the fanbase will find out about them when Mike or Donna does an article naming the candidates and telling everyone who they are and why they are being considered. There are about, let’s say, 19,000 season ticket holders who are big SU fans but I seriously doubt most would know the St Louis Billikens or South Florida Bulls, less who their coaches are.

I think you’re underestimating the intelligence of our fans a bit.

 

[Newhouser]

Can someone explain to me why St Bonnie would publicly say the next hoops coach will not be making anything close to the guy they are retiring? Doing it is one thing, publicly telling people seems odd to me.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Can someone explain to me why St Bonnie would publicly say the next hoops coach will not be making anything close to the guy they are retiring? Doing it is one thing, publicly telling people seems odd to me.

Woj Bomb.

 

[MSOrange]

Can someone explain to me why St Bonnie would publicly say the next hoops coach will not be making anything close to the guy they are retiring? Doing it is one thing, publicly telling people seems odd to me.

While I only read a brief blurb about that, I'm guessing they are planning to use the savings in coaching salary to supplement as much of the $20 million revenue sharing as they can. So the potential coaches can decide if taking less themselves will help them be more successful in the long run.

 

[kingtidge]

While I only read a brief blurb about that, I'm guessing they are planning to use the savings in coaching salary to supplement as much of the $20 million revenue sharing as they can. So the potential coaches can decide if taking less themselves will help them be more successful in the long run.

Yep, delineating the type of job and pond they are swimming in.

Looking for a young coach that will like their rev share outlay for success in their league and view the job as a viable stepping stone.

 

[HyattsCuse]

Can someone explain to me why St Bonnie would publicly say the next hoops coach will not be making anything close to the guy they are retiring? Doing it is one thing, publicly telling people seems odd to me.

I don’t see a source leaking this info to Rothstein as the same as publicly telling everyone. It’s not like they put out a press release saying we are going cheaper.

That being said, $600k plus a $3-4 NIL budget might be more appealing for a coach looking to use St Bonnie’s as a launchpad to a bigger job?

 

[Cusefan0307]

What's Gmac making at Siena? That would be a good hire for the Bonnies...

 

[CusefanATL]

I'll finally actively participate in this. Jay Wright or Tony Bennett.

 

[Sherman20]

It will excite many of the fanatical fanbase here but most of the fan base will say “who are they? “. If it excites the big money people who donate to NIL is what is important. The rest of the fanbase will find out about them when Mike or Donna does an article naming the candidates and telling everyone who they are and why they are being considered. There are about, let’s say, 19,000 season ticket holders who are big SU fans but I seriously doubt most would know the St Louis Billikens or South Florida Bulls, less who their coaches are.

Yes, a lot of the more casual SU basketball fans won’t know the top candidates, but they will hear all about them from the local media and social media, directly from the horse’s mouth once he’s hired, and see the reaction from the national media to the hire, and will hopefully be inspired. Look at Fran Brown—and he didn’t even have any head coaching experience or Hodgson’s track record when he was hired.

Orange Nation is also much bigger than the local season ticket holders. I don’t live in Syracuse anymore (but grew up there as a huge SU fan)—and that’s true for a lot of my extended family and some friends. We’re die-hards and attend games on the road, come home for games sometimes, watch every game on TV, buy merch, etc. But some of their interest has waned (and frustration skyrocketed) with all the mediocrity. So there’s a lot of folks like that who are hungry to see winning SU basketball again that we can bring back to the table.

 

[Cheriehoop]

I think you’re underestimating the intelligence of our fans a bit.

It’s not a matter of intelligence. I don’t think if an SU fan doesn't know the coach of a member of smaller mid-level conferences that aren’t local like the American Athletic Conference or A10 conference, is dumb. That’s insulting and I realize most people aren’t into basketball overall, not just SU, as much as I am - they are normal, have different priorities, but are still avid SU fans. I was asked by a person, a long time season ticket holder who I had heard could be the next coach and when I said Hodgson’s name and college, USF , they asked me who, why and also was USF, the Univ of San Francisco. I was the dumb one forgetting that both universities have the same initials and could be confused. As I said they will be educated by the local media and they then will decide.

 

[Irishsecra1]

What's Gmac making at Siena? That would be a good hire for the Bonnies...

I think GMAC's offers will depend on whether he gets Siena to the NCAAT.

If he can pull that off, St Bonaventure, Providence and BC would probably kick the tires on it.
If he could win a first round game in NCAAT, the offers will no doubt increase.

As I said before, I understand why he wont be hired here this year.
But, boy, did TPTB shoot themselves in the foot picking Red over Gerry 3 years ago.

 

[Briancuse]

I think GMAC's offers will depend on whether he gets Siena to the NCAAT.

If he can pull that off, St Bonaventure, Providence and BC would probably kick the tires on it.
If he could win a first round game in NCAAT, the offers will no doubt increase.

As I said before, I understand why he wont be hired here this year.
But, boy, did TPTB shoot themselves in the foot picking Red over Gerry 3 years ago.

I think gmac to Providence would be a great fit. The big east is a little down he can win there. I'm assuming hes catholic too.

 

[althea]

I'll finally actively participate in this. Jay Wright or Tony Bennett.

That’s not participating, that’s magic mushrooms.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

I think GMAC's offers will depend on whether he gets Siena to the NCAAT.

If he can pull that off, St Bonaventure, Providence and BC would probably kick the tires on it.
If he could win a first round game in NCAAT, the offers will no doubt increase.

As I said before, I understand why he wont be hired here this year.
But, boy, did TPTB shoot themselves in the foot picking Red over Gerry 3 years ago.

No offense but you don't make a decision about who your next head coach is based on one game. If those three want GMac the outcome of tommorrows game does not matter to them.

 

[shandeezy7]

What's Gmac making at Siena? That would be a good hire for the Bonnies...

Siena's most recent 990 for 2024 had Carmen Maciariello making $370k. I'm assuming Gerry is making a little bit more than that. Bonaventure would be a pay bump, but apparently not as much as you'd think. Schmidt was making $1.5M and the rumor is that they are looking to hire someone at a salary half that amount so that they can put more into revenue sharing for NIL.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Can someone explain to me why St Bonnie would publicly say the next hoops coach will not be making anything close to the guy they are retiring? Doing it is one thing, publicly telling people seems odd to me.

I thought the same thing when I read it. Maybe they decided to thin out the head coaching candidates inquiring about the job.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Siena's most recent 990 for 2024 had Carmen Maciariello making $370k. I'm assuming Gerry is making a little bit more than that. Bonaventure would be a pay bump, but apparently not as much as you'd think. Schmidt was making $1.5M and the rumor is that they are looking to hire someone at a salary half that amount so that they can put more into revenue sharing for NIL.

That's what I was getting at. If they offer him 600 plus I would assume he takes it...

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

That's what I was getting at. If they offer him 600 plus I would assume he takes it...

I don't think money will be a top three influence in GMac's choice about what to do next. He knows the next job is the key to getting a major P4 job. You have to go to a place where you have the support of the university, local fans and NIL donors. The money will come if he wins.

 

[elimunelson]

I think gmac to Providence would be a great fit. The big east is a little down he can win there. I'm assuming hes catholic too.

PC or BC for Gmac contrary to the wine and cheese folks here think About the backwoods of chestnut hill (west Providence is kinda back woods). PC has a real fan base and interest. To me that job is sneaky good.

 

[Cheriehoop]

That's what I was getting at. If they offer him 600 plus I would assume he takes it...

He’d have to like small town living in Olean.

 

[shandeezy7]

I don't think money will be a top three influence in GMac's choice about what to do next. He knows the next job is the key to getting a major P4 job. You have to go to a place where you have the support of the university, local fans and NIL donors. The money wil come if he wins.

Agreed, I'm not sure the pay bump would be what would drive him there. If he thinks it's a better setup there to make the next leap, that's what the draw would be. I'm not sure if Bonaventure provides that or not.

 

[MSOrange]

I don't think money will be a top three influence in GMac's choice about what to do next. He knows the next job is the key to getting a major P4 job. You have to go to a place where you have the support of the university, local fans and NIL donors. The money wil come if he wins.

Agree. While I don't want him to be the next SU coach, it's not because Gerry's stupid. He knows what he needs to be successful. Cstate has mentioned previously, before he even agreed to be the Siena coach, the donors had to step up with NIL money.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Agreed, I'm not sure the pay bump would be what would drive him there. If he thinks it's a better setup there to make the next leap, that's what the draw would be. I'm not sure if Bonaventure provides that or not.

I think GMac really likes Siena and will stay there, finish the job of raising Siena’s reputation with his own, till the right job comes along. I doubt a university like the Bonnie’s admitting they will be decreasing the head coaching and probably the assistant’s salaries because of a money issue with adequately supporting the sport, would be appealing.

 

[MSOrange]

PC or BC for Gmac contrary to the wine and cheese folks here think About the backwoods of chestnut hill (west Providence is kinda back woods). PC has a real fan base and interest. To me that job is sneaky good.

I can buy he might have some interest in Providence. But not BC, and I'm not just saying that to give you a hard time. Just being honest about where they stand as far as institutional and donor support.

 

[Cusefan0307]

He’d have to like small town living in Olean.

Good fly fishing on the Allegheny River.