Coach Search Options after Autry

[dasher]

providence worked out well for rick pitino.

and Rick Barnes

 

[Irishsecra1]

Hop should not even be in the conversation.
The only alum that should even be considered is GMAC and frankly he should stay where he is for 2 more years. He doesn't need the pressure cooker situation that SU will be this year.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Today the NIL budget as the number one question and the only way you can field a deep talented team. Some exceptions exist when you get a 5 year player like Ryan Kalkbrenner who is not all about money and loyal to a team and coach. B

Peter Carey?

He left a little over a year ago. I think he had injury issues.

 

[dasher]

I think he will stay at Siena for at least another two years.
I think he wants to build something there - win a regular season championship, make the NCAAT a bit,
win at least a first round game. Establish a culture that can endure after he leaves, assuming they make a decent hire.
Plus the fans love him there, his players love him, his family loves it there - I just cant see him chucking it all for the bonnies, or Providence or BC.

The one thing that I thought would always be a huge plus for him as a head coach is he can set the example.
He can walk the walk so to speak.
He isn't asking these kids to do anything more than he did as a player.
He worked his ass off, never ever gave up.
And they saw with him that he got results - because he put the work in and always hustled.

Providence isn't B.C. or St Bonny. If offered, I think he would almost have to take it.

 

[elimunelson]

Providence isn't B.C. or St Bonny. If offered, I think he would almost have to take it.

Also assuming tomorrow is guaranteed for him performance wise is unwise. If he’s independently wealthy already maybe the massive bounce in pay is irrelevant but I don’t think Gerry has made millions in his career

It will factor w the amt of kids he has etc

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Today the NIL budget as the number one question and the only way you can field a deep talented team. Some exceptions exist when you get a 5 year player like Ryan Kalkbrenner who is not all about money and loyal to a team and coach. B

Peter Carey?

I think Mulvey will apply for an extra season. He was hurt the first two years at Iowa. Roomates with Doty and they are close.

 

[Irishsecra1]

I think Mulvey will apply for an extra season. He was hurt the first two years at Iowa. Roomates with Doty and they are close.

He was another of the injured earlier. Had a bad concussion that kept him out of 8 games.
Thank God he is back - really their sole tall big.

As for Providence, is that a high paying job now?

 

[Sherman20]

PC or BC for Gmac contrary to the wine and cheese folks here think About the backwoods of chestnut hill (west Providence is kinda back woods). PC has a real fan base and interest. To me that job is sneaky good.

Gmac isn’t getting hired at a P5 school this year. There are many more accomplished coaches out there for them to choose from right now. Take your orange colored glasses off (I hate that phrase but I have to say it here). That said, I could see him getting an offer from a higher level mid-major in the A-10 or American, probably in the Northeast. But as others have said, if he leaves Siena, he’ll want good resources at the new school in order to compete in his conference.

 

[RedtheGOB]

A couple of the right portal additions and I can see that program taking off. I live in the Capital Region and I think the Siena job is sneaky good. It's a great area and super convenient to a lot of fun places. I'm moving back to CNY soon because I have strong roots there, but otherwise I would be quite content here.

Hopefully they can schedule some high-majors next year and don't have the same issues as Miami (OH) this year on that front.

I don’t know dude. I’m in the capital region too and I don’t see a sports town here unless you like horseracing.

Maybe your experience is different but I don’t see Siena going anywhere. Albany in itself has fallen behind places even like Troy amd Schenectady nearby lately but I know they have money coming in to revitalize the downtown but still.

 

[elimunelson]

Gmac isn’t getting hired at a P5 school this year. There are many more accomplished coaches out there for them to choose from right now. Take your orange colored glasses off (I hate that phrase but I have to say it here). That said, I could see him getting an offer from a higher level mid-major in the A-10 or American, probably in the Northeast. But as others have said, if he leaves Siena, he’ll want good resources at the new school in order to compete.

Let’s see how he does. If he makes a run why not. He’s not a normal mid major coach. He’s a legend to the national media and will get plenty of outsized media if he catches lightening in a bottle

 

[Jake]

Gmac isn’t getting hired at a P5 school this year. There are many more accomplished coaches out there for them to choose from right now. Take your orange colored glasses off (I hate that phrase but I have to say it here). That said, I could see him getting an offer from a higher level mid-major in the A-10 or American, probably in the Northeast. But as others have said, if he leaves Siena, he’ll want good resources at the new school in order to compete.

I wouldn’t bet against GMAC getting a P5 offer this year. He might sit for a year for a better offer, but that’s a dangerous bet. Siena might not be as good next year.

 

[phil77]

I wouldn’t bet against GMAC getting a P5 offer this year. He might sit for a year for a better offer, but that’s a dangerous bet. Siena might not be as good next year.

I agree that if GMac gets a chance to move up to a better conference and a better coaching position, he should take it. P4 or not. Should always keep trying to move up if offered.

 

[nyucuse]

I wouldn’t bet against GMAC getting a P5 offer this year. He might sit for a year for a better offer, but that’s a dangerous bet. Siena might not be as good next year.

It's a big jump up. But maybe a BC or Providence would consider it. Particularly given his known name and regional status..

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I don’t know dude. I’m in the capital region too and I don’t see a sports town here unless you like horseracing.

Maybe your experience is different but I don’t see Siena going anywhere. Albany in itself has fallen behind places even like Troy amd Schenectady nearby lately but I know they have money coming in to revitalize the downtown but still.

Not much going on downtown, but the Arena is a professional facility. Historically, Albany just won't support a professional minor league team in any team for an extended period of time.

 

[BigNastyJon]

I agree that if GMac gets a chance to move up to a better conference and a better coaching position, he should take it. P4 or not. Should always keep trying to move up if offered.

Amen. A bird in the hand folks…

 

[Cusefan0307]

It's a big jump up. But maybe a BC or Providence would consider it. Particularly given his known name and regional status..

Fran, Louie, Paul Hewitt….it used to be a great stepping stone program until Jimmy Patsos and Carmen M ran it into the ground.

 

[Orangezoo]

I wouldn’t bet against GMAC getting a P5 offer this year. He might sit for a year for a better offer, but that’s a dangerous bet. Siena might not be as good next year.

Yeah- unless he has a specific vacancy expected to open up he would have an inside track on- you take that opportunity now if it presents itself. For instance BH was chasing the SU job already so going to USF made sense but maybe he goes after a bigger job if not for SU being very likely to to be available

 

[BonaCuse]

Woj Bomb.

The SBU situation is certainly an interesting one. When Woj came on, he was adamant publicly that he worked for Schmidt. Turns out that relationship didn't quite work out that way. It looks like the SBU GM has way more power than basically any other GM in college hoops.

SBU also recently publicly stated that their entire athletics budget was $14M - with $4M of that being NIL (not mens' basketball NIL, NIL total. Although assuming that an overwhelming majority, if not all, is men's hoops.). Most SU insiders have said that this year's hoops team was around $8M (or more than half of the entire SBU athletics budget) and Duke's basketball NIL is around $20M.

It's a broken system. It will be interesting to see if more schools go with the model of the GM having way more say in everything, and almost more power than the HC.

 

[Cuse2023]

Happy for Gerry, and he’s doing a really solid job at Siena, but people here are completely overestimating his stock.

Providence is going to be one of the best openings of the cycle. They are not hiring Gerry, and they won’t even give him a call. From what I know about BC, he’s not one of the names there right now either.

The next logical step for Gerry is probably an A-10 job.

 

[orangecuse]

He’d have to like small town living in Olean.

 

[nyucuse]

Happy for Gerry, and he’s doing a really solid job at Siena, but people here are completely overestimating his stock.

Providence is going to be one of the best openings of the cycle. They are not hiring Gerry, and they won’t even give him a call. From what I know about BC, he’s not one of the names there right now either.

The next logical step for Gerry is probably an

No offense to Providence, but if that is one of the top jobs this cycle, it is a very, very down cycle.

 

[Cuse2023]

No offense to Providence. but if that is one of the top jobs this cycle, it is a very, very down cycle.

Yes, if you’ve been following the cycle, people have been saying for months that unless we have some surprise retirements, it’s going to be a down year.

That being said, Providence, in the current state of the sport, is a much better job than some people here seem to think. They have a lot of NIL, and that’s attractive for any candidate.

 

[Orangezoo]

While hardly the only thing you look at, as I mentioned before , how coaches manage success is important. How BH handles the American tournament as a favorite is something I want to see but so far he has his team only getting stronger down the stretch. Meanwhile Saint Louis has been a much less consistent team down the stretch after a great start on record pace for the school. Last year they bowed out early in the quarterfinals of their tourney and then got manhandled by BH’s Ark st team in the first round of the NIT. That Ark state squad lost in their conf tourney title game but finished strong besides that loss.

BH also has only 5 double digit losses over the past two years and not one of them was over 15 pts. Schertz has 7 over that same period including a few over 20 points.

Little nuggets of course but very curious how both handle these bigger games this year again. Saint Louis is playing like a team ripe to get sniped in the conf tourney.

 

[Blanko97]

I think he will stay at Siena for at least another two years.
I think he wants to build something there - win a regular season championship, make the NCAAT a bit,
win at least a first round game. Establish a culture that can endure after he leaves, assuming they make a decent hire.
Plus the fans love him there, his players love him, his family loves it there - I just cant see him chucking it all for the bonnies, or Providence or BC.

The one thing that I thought would always be a huge plus for him as a head coach is he can set the example.
He can walk the walk so to speak.
He isn't asking these kids to do anything more than he did as a player.
He worked his ass off, never ever gave up.
And they saw with him that he got results - because he put the work in and always hustled.

If he makes the NCAAT this year, his stock may never be higher and I have to imagine he jumps if offered (anything other than BC or buttgers). There’s just too much volatility and items that are outside your control in low majors to stick around if you don’t have to

 

[dasher]

Etan talking about AdamW and NIL Well, there is nothing stopping Adam from donating to NIL right now. He doesn't want that. He doesn't contribute to NIL. He wants his money to go where he wants it to go. That is his right. But the school isn't out of bounds in wanting it to regulate how their athletes are paid. Etan has his agenda. It doesn't always if ever mesh with what the University wants.