Coach Search Options after Autry

[elimunelson]

Can one of our insiders tell me the bear case for not interviewing Gerry? I saw a team last night playing ferocious d. He knows the school and what makes it tick.

I know many of you said he’s staying at Siena for 2 more years and will turn down any bc overtures but why wouldn’t we want to interview him and get a answer for what went wrong w red, what boeheim did right when he was asst etc

This is good due diligence. Maybe they find out he’s the guy. In another thread I’d try and see if Hopkins would come back as an asst. it’s lateral from the pelicans but maybe they make it financially worthwhile for him to rehab his rep in college hoops

 

[kirbivore]

That hanging on too long is a major problem across coaching. It hoopoes because many people with power obvert hires also want to deny their own aging and so think about coaching that way.

One of the few that left the program in a good place was your boy Dean. Final season a Final Four and the first season he's gone another Final Four. Problem was Coach Gut ended up being your Autry.

 

[djorange1989]

We’re about to ride the bus off the cliff into HopkinsVille and all people care about is who changed the oil last.

Good lord one person posts a rumor he heard weeks ago and now Hopkins is our coach. You know that Xanax is a wonder drug, right?

 

[djorange1989]

I am glad because Seth Davis has no clue what he is talking about lol

He still thinks Montana should have beaten us in 2013. Probably

 

[PhatOrange]

We’ll agree to disagree. He fought the inevitable trend of player movement. Failed to adjust away from M2M when it was failing him regularly.

His practices devolved into 90 minute walkthrough/shootarounds. He stopped recruiting.

We should all be thankful that there wasn’t another 5-7 overweight boeheim, because he would made room for him too.

Players left because they knew Jimmy was playing 35min/game.

The list is endless.

What did he leave his successor? Players that they had to beg to retain because they were gone if JB remained.

It was a train wreck.

Makes one wonder why Wildhack promoted Red from within then. ; especially this part;
His practices devolved into 90 minute walkthrough/shootarounds. He stopped recruiting;

I don't understand why the AD seems to get a pass on all this.

 

[Newhouser]

Can one of our insiders tell me the bear case for not interviewing Gerry? I saw a team last night playing ferocious d. He knows the school and what makes it tick.

I know many of you said he’s staying at Siena for 2 more years and will turn down any bc overtures but why wouldn’t we want to interview him and get a answer for what went wrong w red, what boeheim did right when he was asst etc

This is good due diligence. Maybe they find out he’s the guy. In another thread I’d try and see if Hopkins would come back as an asst. it’s lateral from the pelicans but maybe they make it financially worthwhile for him to rehab his rep in college hoops

Maybe they reached out and GMac said he wasn't interested (hinted in this thread that he doesn't think we have the ca$h to compete). Why bring him in to give him interview practice?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Gmac was a poor recruiter when he was here. Hop wins that aspect of the job, including player acquisition, by a country mile. Hop is also known as a guy who has developed players and made them better. Gmac has also shown that ability, albeit for less years. Hop is way more charismatic and dynamic, though Gmac has shown strong leadership ability. As for motivation and team building, I’d say both if them are equal in that area. But I don’t think either has shown much in terms of a modern offensive and defensive vision and schemes, so that’s a wash. They’re both from the JB factory of stale product. I don’t get all the obsession for Gmac as head coach, other than him being an SU alum. (Hop, too, it goes without saying.) Either would be a terrible choice to lead the program at this pivotal point.

I’m rooting for him to succeed, but why can’t we just let him grow and develop and get better at Siena and then hopefully move up to an A-10 job and do well there?

I think Gerry is a bit more that just an SU alum, he's probably the most popular 4 year player in the programs history or since I have been following Syracuse basketball. Ignoring that isn't going to be easy for some.

 

[Sherman20]

I think Gerry is a bit more that just an SU alum, he's probably the most popular 4 year player in the programs history or since I have been following Syracuse basketball. Ignoring that isn't going to be easy for some.

I love Gmac. But he was nowhere near my favorite Syracuse player. Maybe because I grew up there in the 80s and 90s. And I say this as a fan who came back for his senior year game against Nova just before the Big East tourney run. Anyhow, you can’t hire him simply because he was a popular former player. He needs to go prove himself at an A-10 or American conference program, and he needs to develop more of an offensive identity.

 

[Franz69]

We should hang a banner in the Dome if the new AD wins the press conference.

 

[SUfanNC]

Makes one wonder why Wildhack promoted Red from within then. ; especially this part;
His practices devolved into 90 minute walkthrough/shootarounds. He stopped recruiting;

I don't understand why the AD seems to get a pass on all this.

Why would it be on the AD? He makes a decision and based on numerous explanations from folks here that know the scenario a bit more Red is the coach. It's not the AD job to coach or make sure as a coach you are doing what is needed to win. If you win you stay, if you lose you go. As AD he is there to support and offer resources that are available. If you want to be mad at the AD fine but its not on him to over see how Red is running practice

 

[sufan59]

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I love Gmac. But he was nowhere near my favorite Syracuse player. Maybe because I grew up there in the 80s and 90s. And I say this as a fan who came back for his senior year game against Nova just before the Big East tourney run. Anyhow, you can’t hire him simply because he was a popular former player. He needs to go prove himself at an A-10 or American conference program, and he needs to develop more of an offensive identity.

I am not advocating to hire Gerry and agree he probably needs another jump, but I can see why people are talking about it and his popularity as a player at Syracuse is undeniable. I do think if he continues to ascend in 3-4 years he might not be available, but things happen.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

We should hang a banner in the Dome if the new AD wins the press conference.
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Now do a poster for Lyke.

 

[sufan59]

 

[Jasoncuse]

We should hang a banner in the Dome if the new AD wins the press conference.
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At least we’ll finally win something

 

[Jasoncuse]

Maybe they reached out and GMac said he wasn't interested (hinted in this thread that he doesn't think we have the ca$h to compete). Why bring him in to give him interview practice?

Also, GMac may not be super thrilled about getting passed over originally for an inferior internal option. The school coming crawling back may not sit well with him and I wouldn’t blame him.

 

[sufan59]

First time really in over 60 years

 

[illi3]

 

[PhatOrange]

Why would it be on the AD? He makes a decision and based on numerous explanations from folks here that know the scenario a bit more Red is the couch. It's not the AD job to coach or make sure as a coach you are doing what is needed to win. If you win you stay, if you lose you go. As AD he is there to support and offer recourses that are available. If you want to be mad at the AD fine but its not on him to over see how Red is running practice

You're kidding me right? I don't have time to explain so keeping it short. These guys all report to the AD. The AD probably kicks around practices. Is he not smart enough to notice the practices are a joke and the team sucks? And yes it is the ADs job to make sure the coach is doing what it takes to win. He's the boss, the coaches are employees.

 

[elimunelson]

Maybe they reached out and GMac said he wasn't interested (hinted in this thread that he doesn't think we have the ca$h to compete). Why bring him in to give him interview practice?

W all due respect that’s laughable. He turned us down? Cmon.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Good lord one person posts a rumor he heard weeks ago and now Hopkins is our coach. You know that Xanax is a wonder drug, right?

The rumor was backed up another source- and the timeline alleged it was only a couple days ago. But you keep peddling that rubbish while I’ll be safely and heavily medicated when the news breaks.

 

[Newhouser]

W all due respect that’s laughable. He turned us down? Cmon.

I'm pretty sure it was reported in one of the seventy threads that he did citing concerns over NIL. I'm not going to look it up but I'm pretty confident someone with good street cred on this forum posted something.

 

[benjams77]

Ugh. We can’t have nice things, can we? It’s a good win and tourney run for Siena, and I’m happy for GMac, but he has more to prove, and his offense has the same vision and identity problems as Red’s. Have people lost their minds? He’s been a head coach at a lower level mid-major for 2 years.

And wasn’t Gmac on the bench for the entire 10-year long JB swoon? If we have to blame Red for his part in that, Gmac also has to share blame. Am I missing something? His team lost 11 games this year while competing in the MAAC and they finished 190 in KenPom (Merrimack was only a few spots higher, so was similar in terms of efficiency). Btw, Hofstra and Speedy Claxton were at #87, only a few spots below SU. If Gmac wasn’t an SU legend, he wouldn’t even be in the conversation.

UGHH!.. This board has the absolute laziest takes on offense… It’s the sheep thing where you hear someone say it and it’s gotta be correct but have no idea what your seeing

Please I beg you to go back and really watch the Siena games , watch the Fairfield one .. Gerry made some great set calls with flare action with post diving and very good secondary break action …

People, good high level college basketball coaches scout sets and offense . if they any good they take away stuff … Sets don’t always work and with a 30 sec clock you have to have guys make plays .. Just the deal.
Gerry runs a lot of offense and the ball moves until late shot clock when guys gotta make a play …

JB had his last 10 yrs years mixed in with top 50 offense teams so there’s that .. Red teams were not good offensley for a few reasons .. Red didn’t have adjustments or other options to sets .. Players couldn’t execute and third they didn’t go hard enough .. Cuts were slow and screens were Lazy

Offense needs execution, players that can create/ have skill and shot makers .. plus they need to go hard and have a purpose .. Red and Cuse lacked those elements .. Gerry’s team lacks the depth of players skill but has everything else

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'm pretty sure it was reported in one of the seventy threads that he did citing concerns over NIL. I'm not going to look it up but I'm pretty confident someone with good street cred on this forum posted something.

If there's a want for an alum I don't understand why the people bankrolling Hopkins wouldn't bank roll Gmac instead. Again, I DON'T WANT GMAC, but he's clearly a better candidate than Hopkins at this point.

 

[Trueblue25]

Yep this search started with schertz and murray as one and two, with BH as a third in line. Hopefully thats changed.