Coach Search Options after Autry

[RF2044]

I'll say this - went to the game the other night where Mincy got hurt so that was a bit of an outlier, the ball moves with a purpose, Mincy is hyper efficient (the advanced stats guys here would be in heaven), constant off ball motion, the right guys are shooting in the right spots, generally good on the TOs, and they close really well.

I'm with you on Skinn.

 

[phil77]

I'll say this - went to the game the other night where Mincy got hurt so that was a bit of an outlier, the ball moves with a purpose, Mincy is hyper efficient (the advanced stats guys here would be in heaven), constant off ball motion, the right guys are shooting in the right spots, generally good on the TOs, and they close really well.

Right I have watched them play a couple of time. In an interview I posted he already said he doesn't really run a system on offense. He preaches spacing but no real offensive system in place. That scares me in the long run.

And I am on record saying we can do alot worse than Skinn

 

[Bayside44]

Right I have watched them play a couple of time. In an interview I posted he already said he doesn't really run a system on offense. He preaches spacing but no real offensive system in place. That scares me in the long run.

And I am on record saying we can do alot worse than Skinn

They're on now, might be a good time to tune in.

 

[phil77]

They're on now, might be a good time to tune in.

When Syracuse isn't on, I click around. Right now watching Auburn/Alabama

 

[rrlbees]

Of course I know that. We're in the top 5 in the ACC. Our NIL isn't the problem.

But if a coach is looking for the type of resources that the SEC has, or that a rogue donor [like Phil Knight or the Walmart kid at Arkansas] can singlehandedly provide, then yeah -- we're not going to be able to match that.

But I don't think the guys we'll be targeting will be making such outlandish demands. A Pitino might. Others might, to move from a situation where they are entrenched at a successful P4 job already to Syracuse. But we're probably going to target a guy from a lower conference looking to make the jump upwards.

You don’t know that either. Much of it is internet chatter. If we had $5m like the internet chatter claims, and a candidate feels he needs $6-7m he may say ok I can raise that. But if he thinks he needs $10 million like a lot of schools have, he may say no thanks. Every candidate is gonna have different expectations. Point is, what we have could be a limiting factor for some not all. NIL is that important today.

 

[BigNastyJon]

Things are starting to get ugly…Time for Wildhack & Co. to put their big boy pants on.

 

[RF2044]

You don’t know that either. Much of it is internet chatter. If we had $5m like the internet chatter claims, and a candidate feels he needs $6-7m he may say ok I can raise that. But if he thinks he needs $10 million like a lot of schools have, he may say no thanks. Every candidate is gonna have different expectations. Point is, what we have could be a limiting factor for some not all. NIL is that important today.

Our NIL is behind some of the top ACC schools, but above others. We spent more in NIL resources than UVa does, and they trounced us today.

Our NIL situation is fine. It's also fine for a lot of programs out there who don't have big NIL coffers, and yet somehow still manage to field competitive basketball teams.

Fix the coaching, then the rest will fall into place.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Things are starting to get ugly…Time for Wildhack & Co. to put their big boy pants on.

Nah, it’s well into apathy. The school needs to really take a hard look at the decisions they’ve made on their major sports. If they don’t get it fixed in the next two years it’s possible they never come back.

Honestly, they may need to think about dropping down to FCS in Football. I don’t they can be competitive in both Football and Basketball with their current structure. But right now neither are competitive. Maybe they just want to milk as much cash from the programs as possible, without investing in their success. Feels like a small market MLB team approach.

 

[mark79]

Of course I know that. We're in the top 5 in the ACC. Our NIL isn't the problem.

But if a coach is looking for the type of resources that the SEC has, or that a rogue donor [like Phil Knight or the Walmart kid at Arkansas] can singlehandedly provide, then yeah -- we're not going to be able to match that.

But I don't think the guys we'll be targeting will be making such outlandish demands. A Pitino might. Others might, to move from a situation where they are entrenched at a successful P4 job already to Syracuse. But we're probably going to target a guy from a lower conference looking to make the jump upwards.

I agree, RF.

NIL is not the problem. We will never be Duke-rich but we absolutely should be able to compete with someone like UVa from a player and a coaching perspective. But UVa completely cleaned house after Tony left. New coach, all new players. It’s hindsight yes, but it appears we should have done the same.

When I watch UVa, very very little of their scoring is from one on one play. And they still play great defense. It’s the coaching. Everyone is completely bought in and they seem to ensure that when they bring their guys in, they don’t take flyers on guys who have talent but don’t have a team mentality. They have a “culture”. Not sure what ours is honestly.

Rant over. Glad lacrosse is dominating!

 

[Consigliere]

Of course I know that. We're in the top 5 in the ACC. Our NIL isn't the problem.

But if a coach is looking for the type of resources that the SEC has, or that a rogue donor [like Phil Knight or the Walmart kid at Arkansas] can singlehandedly provide, then yeah -- we're not going to be able to match that.

But I don't think the guys we'll be targeting will be making such outlandish demands. A Pitino might. Others might, to move from a situation where they are entrenched at a successful P4 job already to Syracuse. But we're probably going to target a guy from a lower conference looking to make the jump upwards.

I would double check the Top 5 in the ACC claim. Duke, UNC, Louisville, Virginia, NC State and Miami are all estimated to have a bigger war chest than Syracuse. Clemson and SMU likely do too.

 

[phil77]

So here is the problem when you google Syracuse NIL for 2025-26 season you get this

"For the 2025-26 season, Syracuse men's basketball is expected to have an NIL budget in the range of $2 million to $2.5 million for its roster, according to reports in late 2025. While Syracuse Athletics plans to utilize the full, maximum allowed $20.5 million in total revenue-sharing across all sports, the direct allotment specifically for men's basketball is targeted at this lower amount. "


This isn't correct and not even close. That is why we are getting all these media reports now they are just googling and taking that information. That is laughably false.

 

[Fly Rodder]

 

[SimonSays]

please give me him. i love this. This is a coach that has taught discipline.

 

[rrlbees]

So here is the problem when you google Syracuse NIL for 2025-26 season you get this

"For the 2025-26 season, Syracuse men's basketball is expected to have an NIL budget in the range of $2 million to $2.5 million for its roster, according to reports in late 2025. While Syracuse Athletics plans to utilize the full, maximum allowed $20.5 million in total revenue-sharing across all sports, the direct allotment specifically for men's basketball is targeted at this lower amount. "


This isn't correct and not even close. That is why we are getting all these media reports now they are just googling and taking that information. That is laughably false.

I haven’t seen anyone quote that number. We were closer to 5.

 

[sufan59]

Wow that shooting chart!

 

[phil77]

I haven’t seen anyone quote that number. We were closer to 5.

I heard we had 3 players who are over 5 together. We are closer to 7/8 overall, again, from what I have heard. You have better information than I will ever have so I won't argue with you about your number.

I am going by when local media says we are at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to ACC NIL I think this is where they are getting that number. I think we are closer to top 3rd than bottom 3rd.

 

[phil77]

Perfect shooting chart by SLU...

 

[sufan59]

I heard we had 3 players who are over 5 together. We are closer to 7/8 overall, again, from what I have heard. You have better information than I will ever have so I won't argue without about your number.

I am going by when local media says we are at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to ACC NIL I think this is where they are getting that number. I think we are closer to top 3rd than bottom 3rd.

We are probably around 6th in the conference. And honestly coming into the season, I thought our talent level even exceeded 6th. That’s how badly I think we are underperforming this season.

 

[Consigliere]

I haven’t seen anyone quote that number. We were closer to 5.

That looks like the 2024 number from Orange United. The number I was told for this year was $4.5MM. Believe that includes Vegas money but not revenue sharing.

 

[Fly Rodder]

please give me him. i love this. This is a coach that has taught discipline.

That's my biggest takeaway from this. People can not like the offensive system/philosophy but the discipline there ... off the charts. No one is free styling and taking a bunch of turnaround jumpers and 21.5 ft twos.

 

[sufan59]

That looks like the 2024 number from Orange United. The number I was told for this year was $4.5MM. Believe that includes Vegas money but not revenue sharing.

So about 8 million

 

[JaySU22]

Wow, Woj isn’t exactly killing it as Bonnie’s gm

 

[PauliePeppas]

Schertz would have us back QUCK. Please please please

 

[qdawgg]

If Schertz wants Cincinnati more than Cuse I think Cuse should seriously consider Jerrod Calhoun.

Abandoning the BB program.

 

[phil77]

They're on now, might be a good time to tune in.

So nice win for them, but it is more of the same from them nothing, I haven't seen in the other games I have watched. Very strong defense and weak offense.

Defense great held the Hawks 31% from the field and 27% from 3
Offense terrible, GM shot 41% from the field 25% from 3, only 10 assists with 8 turnovers

Again, I don't think he is a bad coach I just don't want to play that style of basketball; it isn't fun to watch for me and it wouldn't be a style of play that would immediately bring the casuals back IMO. I don't want to be in a rock fight every game. It's not enjoyable. That again isn't taking anything away from him as a coach, especially a defensive coach; he seems outstanding at that. Just not what I personally want and like I said we can do a lot worse than him, but believe we can do a lot better.