Coach Search Options after Autry

[Frozen]

I can say Hop is in play (and another SU alumni) and his ability to raise NIL is his main selling point. I still think it will be an outside hire but he's absolutely in the mix and not gonna go quietly ie NIL

Can I safely assume the other alum is Jason Hart?

Or is it Devin Brennan-McBride?

 

[bballbeadle]

Believe me, I'm not doing that. I don't want Hopkins or Gerry. I'm glad everything worked out for you health wise. That is what matters. And I also have less years left to get us back to games in March that matters.

Gdammit, if I have to live to 90 to see Syracuse bball great again, I’ll do it! I won’t like it, but I’ll do it.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I’m about to watch this ISU byu game and continue to check the board all night while having carrot cake. Perfect night lol

You’re not the only one who had carrot cake tonight. Wasn’t my choice either.

 

[Sherman20]

well, it isn't valued at what we all we would have thought seeing who is interested right now from what I hear. I'm surprised and sad about it.

Well, let’s gauge who you would think would be a good hire for Syracuse. Who would have been your top three or five realistic options before you started hearing things? It’s helpful to understand your perspective on who a good (realistic) coaching hire would be before Red fully flamed out.

 

[orangepassion]

Worried about UNC. They might very well be firing Hubert Davis at season's end... Especially if they lose to Syracuse tomorrow lol

We did our part

 

[Sherman20]

I also assume he is still annoyed that he was passed on three years ago.

Exactly. And that’s where I bet these silly “Gmac might not take the job” rumors are coming from. I can hear JB or Gerry’s dad or any other number of Gmac friends or BOT supporters saying those exact words/pushing that narrative. Which would be completely agenda driven and not at all based in what would actually happen if Gmac was a more proven commodity and the school wholeheartedly wanted him as the next head coach. Of course he would take the job if offered. He’s simply not ready right now. I suspect a few stakeholders are pushing certain narratives out there that I will politely call hogwash.

 

[Sherman20]

Cordial.

He said in a couple of pressers that Red was one of his closest friends in coaching.

 

[Sherman20]

Hopkins wouldn't be a disaster, we could do worse, it's also not an inspiring hire. This university needs to realize it's time to move on from the Boeheim Tree.

Hop would be the equivalent of Indiana hiring Mike Woodson. Foolishness. I love Hop but you can’t go this route right now until he proves himself by restarting at a lower level. We have to go outside the program and hire the best mid major coach available and pony up the $$. It’s not that hard. We literally haven’t hired a coach from outside the program since Fred Lewis in the 1960s. It’s time to move into the modern era and grow up as an athletic department.

 

[orangepassion]

Was

Was I not clear. Think say 12 years ago. Who would have wanted our job at that time. Now, the names I am hearing, it makes me shudder. And while the board is in love with BH, I think part of that is that he 1. isn't Red. And 2. gets his team to play hard. But 12 or 13 years ago, would a guy that hasn't one a game in the NCAA tournament be enough? I don't think so. And the other candidates, oh boy. I am actually glad the rest of the board isn't hearing the things I am. I said before, I would share them but it would be a neutron bomb to the board.

I hope the Dome having the biggest crowd in College Basketball today, even with recent down years, is something Wildhack can sell to prospective coaches

 

[Sherman20]

Hop is getting a lot of play among alumni and BOT members. I agree though I don't see SU going that route that ship has sailed for the general fan and I think would be a massive uphill climb to sell to the fanbase. I think they powers that be at SU agree.

Clearly, some of the BOT needs to go. The fact that some of them pressured Wildhack to hire Red and are still loyal to and listen to JB is a problem. Maybe some of them aren’t up to the task of righting the athletics ship, and even the academics have been suffering.

 

[Dcuse]

Clearly, some of the BOT needs to go. The fact that some of them pressured Wildhack to hire Red and are still loyal to and listen to JB is a problem. Maybe some of them aren’t up to the task of righting the athletics ship, and even the academics have been suffering.

They didn’t listen to him when he advised them to hire Gerry , did they?

 

[Dcuse]

I’ve learned today that a program that has a fan base that just produced the highest attended game this year in college basketball despite a bad team is garnering little interest from sought after coaches. I really find this hard to believe.

 

[Sherman20]

I can say Hop is in play (and another SU alumni) and his ability to raise NIL is his main selling point. I still think it will be an outside hire but he's absolutely in the mix and not gonna go quietly ie NIL

Oh, but you really didn't answer my question. I know how you feel about the whole thing. What I want to know is does your view change if a candidate like Hop, or Gerry raise a ridiculous amount for NIL. Much more than we are currently getting or will get because once again it's the Saudi Prince who just loves Syracuse hoop. Would have donated before but JB insulted him when he worked at the daily Orange.

The thing is, Hop would probably be raising money from largely the same pool of donors that any new SU coach would be raising money from. A proven coach will be able to tap into the same pool of Syracuse alums and upstate locals as Hop. And he may bring in his own network too. But right now, Hop is the known quantity for the vast majority of these wealthy alums and locals, so of course they’re going to get excited about him and promise to donate NIL funds. Most of them probably don’t know much about college basketball outside of the ACC and some of the top 25. Once a Schertz or a Hodgson is hired, and everyone sees their track record and upside and the great reaction of the national media, the donations will flow just like they would for Hop, especially if the guy is a charismatic individual. I trust Wildhack to get this right and move outside the Boeheim coaching tree.

 

[nyucuse]

Nah but there was a time when UA coach was possible

Lloyd? I assume you mean when he was an assistant under Few, not leaving Zona for SU. Obviously a great hire in retrospect but was a big risk at that time given he’d never been a head coach.

 

[nyucuse]

^ when Jake speaks its best to listen. But to echo yes the smoke is there on Hodgson.

Solid outcome if this becomes reality. I assume they must be kicking the tires of other top coaches as well such as Schertz? Appreciate he may be likely SEC bound, but surely the powers that be are overturning the stones.

 

[NineOneSeven]

I hope the Dome having the biggest crowd in College Basketball today, even with recent down years, is something Wildhack can sell to prospective coaches

I think it is THE selling point. Area is dying to get back to a title contending team!

 

[orangepassion]

Yes and that's his major selling point. The flip side is SU is worried it would crater tickets among the general fanbase. Heard that his last few years at Washington are causing pause among the powers that be. I do agree that his ability to raise NIL is likely #1 but I think the time for him has passed. Hard to fire Red for a guy with essentially the same track record save 1 year

There's no way they're hiring Hop (and I love Hop as a person and as an associate HC). No one can be that tone-deaf after the last 10 years.

 

[orangepassion]

This ^, hard to see how they could possibly co-exist. Would be like SU keeping Robinson on staff after the demotion from DC. Just isn't gonna happen

Or VT hiring their just fired HC as DC...Oh, wait.

 

[orangepassion]

If it's not Hodgson, people are going to be pissed off.

I respectfully disagree. If you hire a coach with a good track record of HC success, people will be happy. If they hire a guy like Schertz, people will be thrilled.