Coach Search Options after Autry

[rrlbees]

why are we being defeatist? you dont think we can increase attendance with a better coach and winning?

not defeatist at all. and yes attendance can go up. just pointing out we get good attendance relative to others. i will say i doubt we'll ever get back to the numbers we used to see. just not gonna happen in todays environment with disposable income, tv and streaming availability and attendance being down in most places.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Well, it's not like BH isn't attempting the same thing. And all Hopkins is doing is making the case for why he is the best man for the job. This is what I bring to the table in other words. Just as we all do or have done on any job application.

I bring money but my track record is terrible. Recipe for a disaster. Horrible logic

 

[Orangezoo]

I know it doesn’t matter but I’m curious - is Hop going all in after the job all about him making that move or others pushing him to make that move ?

 

[dasher]

Well, I don’t offer money to someone I’m applying to. I would (those days being long past me) try to sell myself on how my strengths fit the position long term. Not “take me and you’ll get some cash infusion short term”’

You never applied for a job in the Nil era.

 

[phil77]

So Melo buys a championship Duke-level roster, and Hopkins is the coach. We have mediocre results because Hopkins is a bad coach and makes the tournament from the bubble. (Just like Washington at the start) Then Kiyan leaves, and Melo's big dollars leave, and then we are stuck with Hopkins, a terrible coach, and back to mediocre NIL funds? Then, because we can't buy Championship level Talent, we won't be on the bubble and miss the tournament again. This is how it is going to play out, right?

Melo's influx of big cash is a band-aid, not a fix. He isn't going to supply this amount of money year after year.

 

[Cappy3]

You never applied for a job in the Nil era.

Too true.

 

[dasher]

I know it doesn’t matter but I’m curious - is Hop going all in after the job all about him making that move or others pushing him to make that move ?

A great question. I don't know. But the move involves moving his family and leaving his job. I would think this is Hopkins wanting the job and lining up his ducks to try and get it.

 

[sufan59]

So Melo buys a championship Duke-level roster, and Hopkins is the coach. We have mediocre results because Hopkins is a bad coach and makes the tournament from the bubble. (Just like Washington at the start) Then Kiyan leaves, and Melo's big dollars leave, and then we are stuck with Hopkins, a terrible coach, and back to mediocre NIL funds? Then, because we can't buy Championship level Talent, we won't be on the bubble and miss the tournament again. This is how it is going to play out, right?

Melo's influx of big cash is a band-aid, not a fix. He isn't going to supply this amount of money year after year.

My imagination of how this plays out.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The Hopkins move is something failing companies do trying to capture old
glory instead of trying to innovate. See Kodak, Sears, Kmart etc etc etc…

 

[jdubs30]

The tricky part about coaching hires is you are at the mercy of who is available/ready at the time you fire your coach. Last year there wasn’t an obvious “match” out there for us. This year we may get extremely lucky that our perfect match is out there and we are ready to fire our HC. This could be Hurley/UConn levels of timing. Don’t think we get chances like this very often, we already missed one with Oates. If we pass on him for a guy who won less than 17 games in each of 5 full seasons of coaching … and has been out of college for 2 seasons.


I’m sure people are lured by the NBA aspect of Hops last 2 years… but man if Hop went to any other school in the country he woildnt even be on our radar.

 

[DPCuse]

Unless it is like $50-75m to endow a player warchest that can fund itself in perpetuity, then it is not sustainable and I would still want a coach who can win with what he can get.

And thank you for posting what you can Bulldog, we're not responding at you personally like you're making the decisions.

Schools typically draw about 5% a year from an endowment. So they'd need a $200M warchest just to generate a $10M player budget for the basketball team.

 

[Cuse4455]

Ill cancel my season tickets in all Cuse sports if Lyke and Hopkins are hired. And ill encourage my friend group to do the same.

 

[Newhouser]

I must admit, I didn't see this heading this way. The mo for Hopkins is real. And I wouldn't have seen that coming a few weeks ago.

Is the mo for Lykes real too? That is a bigger concern in my opinion.

 

[DoctahLexus]

How old are you?

Young enough to still care. No beef with you of course, just the thought of us blowing it this bad sickens me.

 

[dasher]

Is the mo for Lykes real too? That is a bigger concern in my opinion.

It seems so.

 

[721Comstock]

Lyke and Hopkins a true dream team

Nightmares are dreams too, right?


Can we hire the Rutgers chancellor and go for that (s)hat trick?

 

[dasher]

Young enough to still care. No beef with you of course, just the thought of us blowing it this bad sickens me.

I understand that. I just wish we could get all the potential donors together and hire the best coach. We would be back on the top tier in no time.

 

[RF2044]

not defeatist at all. and yes attendance can go up. just pointing out we get good attendance relative to others. i will say i doubt we'll ever get back to the numbers we used to see. just not gonna happen in todays environment with disposable income, tv and streaming availability and attendance being down in most places.

That's because we have the largest multi-purpose home venue / facility of any college basketball program.

But relative to OUR historical baeline, we don't get "good" attendance anymore, because the performance on the court has slipped over a multi-year span, and the fans are expressing their displeasure by not attending in person. Again, relative to our lengthy historical precedent.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I said in the last couple of days that I can't see the losing side being magnanimous and saying okay, I will back the winning side. You didn't ask if we could get the Lally's to do the same thing you want Melo to do. That is what we need. A situation that whoever wins, the other side will back. I don't see that happening.

Now, this is kind of troubling.
I guess if it was my money, I'd want to get to pick the coach. too.
But that doesn't sound like unqualified backing for the program, does it?
I suppose donors can't trust how their money has been spent in recent years.

 

[Sdot]

It seems so.

If you were a “betting man” (which you are) would you say lykes has a high chance of being AD?

 

[sufan59]

I understand that. I just wish we could get all the potential donors together and hire the best coach. We would be back on the top tier in no time.

That's the one silver lining, the resources are there. We just have weird politics preventing the resources being pooled together for the benefit of Syracuse.

 

[dasher]

If you were a “betting man” (which you are) would you say lykes has a high chance of being AD?

I certainly would

 

[DoctahLexus]

I understand that. I just wish we could get all the potential donors together and hire the best coach. We would be back on the top tier in no time.

I do greatly appreciate the info you provide. No messenger shooting here. Just sick to my stomach reading what you have to say.

 

[jdubs30]

My imagination of how this plays out.

Kiyan ends up getting 16 shots a game and more talented players get less usage………

 

[Fly Rodder]

The tricky part about coaching hires is you are at the mercy of who is available/ready at the time you fire your coach. Last year there wasn’t an obvious “match” out there for us.

Bryan Hodgson was available last season. But instead of firing Red, the basketball alums talked SU into giving him another season and an infusion of cash.