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[dasher]

and not to knock the womens bball program, but the mrs is a big supporter.

somewhere in there, that should tell us something

 

[IthacaMatt]

"Hope Hop can coach" is not a plan, regardless of the $ attached. This isn't complicated.

I don't doubt that Hop can teach individual players to be better.
But I don't believe he has the tactical chops to actually (a) implement offensive or defensive systems that work, or (b) make in game decisions that will help win games.

 

[Jake]

Tried to research how much they were worth and the variation was wild. Potentially up to 1.5 billion.

Yes, they have efffuuu $.

 

[dasher]

Oh man. So that's why Lyke is still possible here? Lally's wife? I mean the others on the committee including John has to know Lyke is a horrible call here. Can't John buy her a new yacht and get her out of this discussion? I kid, I kid. Actually not kidding. So if Haynie is a lock, can't he come in and make the AD call himself? If he is "pro sports" as some have said would he not then want someone better credentialed and fit for the next 5 to 10 years given everything on the horizon?

I have heard and I don't know if this is true, that Haynie is on team Lyke

 

[sufan59]

and not to knock the womens bball program, but the mrs is a big supporter.

I like women’s basketball and it’s certainly growing in support, but not even close to where it needs to in order to really move the needle and generate revenue.

 

[RedtheGOB]

All I c

Turned it off dont care anymore. Need a night off from college basketball with this terrible news

Yea it’s brutal.

Trying to think about what if anything can get me behind Hop.

I would need to see a top 10 portal class come in and be top 4-5 ACC. I’m not dumb enough that the smoke either of these 2 crews are blowing our way is going to get us better than Duke, UNC, or Louisville but we better have better talent than UVA, NcSt, SMU and Miami next year then.

And no what ifs on if these portal guys make big jumps.

We gotta get pretty much the best 1 and 5 available. Not to mention legit assistants.

If I see those things happen with actual top players signing pen to paper to come here under Hop and Melo then maybe I can keep an open mind.

 

[phil77]

Oh man. So that's why Lyke is still possible here? Lally's wife? I mean the others on the committee including John has to know Lyke is a horrible call here. Can't John buy her a new yacht and get her out of this discussion? I kid, I kid. Actually not kidding. So if Haynie is a lock, can't he come in and make the AD call himself? If he is "pro sports" as some have said would he not then want someone better credentialed and fit for the next 5 to 10 years given everything on the horizon?

It is the education system if Haynie is the guy, he will not be picked unless he has agreed to this political struggle. Stuff like this happens in the educational system all the time. It is rare that 3 massive positions are open at once but Haynie knows what is going on, and his first action will not be to rock the boat either way if both sides of the money came to an "understanding" regardless if it is bad for Syracuse. Not how things work in the educational admin field.

 

[GHLF]

I think it is that Melo is "comfortable" with Hopkins [who wouldn't be? He was the good cop for many years, including when Melo played at Syracuse, and people love his personality].

But this year did NOT unfold for Kiyan the way that I'm sure Melo envisioned, and hiring Hop versus an outsider would not only [1] guarantee Melo access to the new coach, but also [2] ensure that Melo would be able to take a more active role in actively managing his kid's second year at SU. Not sure he gets that access with Hodgson.

I am attempting to project KA. Jason Cippola, A little light on the shooting and a little more on the driving ability, a little less on the court awareness, and a whole lot less on rebounding, strength, AND defense. This would be a projection as a senior 3 years from now. Lawrence Moten that is absolutely absurd. I do however think as was Jason, He can definitely be a very good basketball player. And just like Jason he needs a whole lot better players around him. They better get this right. KA, Super nice kid for sure, Good basketball player potentially in college. That would be a ceiling for him. Would love to be wrong as it relates to that. if they think they can actually build around him on the prev JB subpar teams sort of like players like Dave Johnson they are crazy. Except now if it did not work I do not know if we would recover

 

[sufan59]

I have heard and I don't know if this is true, that Haynie is on team Lyke

Got to love administrators. I would want her as well to be my shield and punching bag if I was a savvy and political academic administrator lol.

 

[Briancuse]

USF up 26-10 on Rice. Halfway into the first half if anyone cared, but this seems just less interesting now with all this new info lol.

I'm on team Hodgson go bulls.

 

[Cooper05]

I watch so much college basketball, I love it. If I have to guess/bet more than anyone on this board, but just can't do it tonight. I will watch some dumb show with my wife and read the message board instead.

I think I would challenge you on that. I also love College basketball and have watched it for 40 yrs. Just saying I love it also!

 

[sufan59]

I'm on team Hodgson go bulls.

35-29 USF 2 minutes left in the first half. Bryan, stop reading the message board. Focus on building the lead back up.

 

[Cusefan69]

he’s not the issue. It’s his other half.

 

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[sufan59]

he’s not the issue. It’s his other half.

Does John need help? Jk lol

 

[phil77]

35-29 USF 2 minutes left in the first half. Bryan, stop reading the message board. Focus on building the lead back up.

Last I check in Enis hadn't scored in the first half they will end up winning like 86-68 something like that

 

[Scooch]

Phil, there is no terrible news yet.

Nothing definite. But I do think hearing about how this sausage is being made is terrible news. There’s no process, just fiefdoms fighting for power. It’s really discouraging.

 

[RedtheGOB]

I have heard and I don't know if this is true, that Haynie is on team Lyke

I might be the only one here but I could care less about the AD. They come and go. As far as I care we should pay Lyke next to nothing and then when the school realizes the mistake she can easily be dumped for cause.

 

[2B20Again]

Alex didn’t exactly hit it out of the park this year

Whoa, Alex have Red a list. Many we don’t know about. Red made final decision on all the players. I love Red but he was myopic. He was locked in on JJ and filled in around him. Like Carney played against men. Never got a sniff. Womack was a drop dead shooter, never saw him. The big cent looked very agile and ran the floor great for a big man. So don’t play any of them when your job is on the line? Go figure

 

[PauliePeppas]

Nothing definite. But I do think hearing about how this sausage is being made is terrible news. There’s no process, just fiefdoms fighting for power. It’s really discouraging.

Thisssss

 

[FrancoPizza]

As for Lyke, definitely disappointing. A bit head scratching why Lally is backing her

WHAT?!!!!

 

[Trueblue25]

So the best I can discern is that we have a real mess on our hands.

Behind the scenes, there are power struggles taking place for all three positions currently open. Chancellor, AD and MBB.

There seem to be competing factions at each position, and there seems to be a clear direction for what I would say is “Team Lally”…which appears to be involved in all three.

Their slate of candidates appear to be:
Chancellor Haynie
AD Lyke
Coach Hodgson
(The last two for sure, not sure about Haynie)

They are opposed on Lyke by some very influential FB supporters.

And they are opposed on Hodgson by Team Melo.(Hop)
Melo will not be outspent here.

I don’t know how this is all going to fall out, but I think Haynie is going to be a winner here.

The AD situation is too close to call.

As is the MBB coach.

The overarching picture here is the Lally’s attempt to consolidate control. I don’t think they’re going to stop until the school is renamed Lally University @ Syracuse.

Let’s just say their name above Melo’s on the basketball facility has been “duly noted”.

I think a Hop - Lyke result would be somewhat of a potential compromise.

As Dash has noted, I don’t see anyway the Lally’s support Hop, nor Melo supports Hodgson.

This is just ass chapping

 

[cliftonparksufan]

35-29 USF 2 minutes left in the first half. Bryan, stop reading the message board. Focus on building the lead back up.

The Head Coach at Rice is Rob Lanier who was HC at Siena 25 years ago for four seasons. One of a handful that left with a losing record. Had a nice career as an assistant afterwards as he is a great recruiter. Not a great HC.

 

[Cusefan69]

I have heard and I don't know if this is true, that Haynie is on team Lyke

Interesting and thanks for sharing. Given early on the messaging perhaps that Haynie liked the West Point AD, I figured he would not be a Lyke vote. I am surprised again coupled with the shared info that Haynie was bigtime "pro athletics ".

 

[dasher]

Interesting and thanks for sharing. Given early on the messaging perhaps that Haynie liked the West Point AD, I figured he would not be a Lyke vote. I am surprised again coupled with the shared info that Haynie was bigtime "pro athletics ".

That info isn't super solid. just what I heard.