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Coach Search Options after Autry

I know the pandemonium in this thread is causing people to lose their minds, but this might be over the top insanity... Forget about his mismanagement of a roster with Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper last season, this year Pikiell's squad has followed it up with some eye-sore inducing metrics, including the 5th worst average distance on 2-point shots. That style of offense belongs in the basketball wasteland that is Piscataway, not in Syracuse.
Again, the two choices in the hypothetical are Pikiell and Hop. I'd rather have the guy that took a tire-fire Rutgers program to the NCAA tournament over Hopkins. I didn't say over anyone else.

You mean the guy who went 15 and 17 with two top 5 picks, and is on the verge of three straight losing seasons, with one ncaa tournament win to speak of. There was a time where I would have taken him that time isn't now
He took RUTGERS to the NCAA tournament. That in itself is more impressive than Mike Hopkins ever did. Read what I wrote. I would take Pikiell over Hopkins.

I do not want Steve Pikiell as the head coach of Syracuse basketball.
 
Mike Hopkins best season was 2018-19 ---- 27-9 .750 winning percentage

Chris Mack was equal to that or better 4 times in his coaching career

Mike Hopkins has a career winning percentage of .524
Chris Mack has a career winning percentage of .679

Chris Mack in 2019-20 had Louisville ranked #1 in the nation

Mike Hopkins has been to the tournament 1 time
Chris Mack has been to the tournament 9 times

But like what is all the hype about Mack when we could have Hopkins :-)
I don't want either retread. let's do up and coming Schertz, Hodgson. Why choose someone who failed at the same level if you don't have to?
 
I don't want either retread. let's do up and coming Schertz, Hodgson. Why choose someone who failed at the same level if you don't have to?

I don't want Mack either, but I would much much much rather have him over Hopkins and Mack wasn't fired because he failed at Louisville. His winning percentage was overall at Louisville was .636, including having the #1 team in the nation. There were things going on behind the scenes of the program that got him fired, which was later found out he was not directly involved in, but the University cleaned house.
 
This is a fascinating thread. Fascinating.

One thing I'll say is this. And you can take it however you want to take it.

Oftentimes, someone in a top position in their field (HC, AD, etc.) learns a lot of things to do and most importantly, things NOT to do. Sometimes the things they should not have done hurt them to the point of losing their job.

There have been many, many people in the world that have done much better, some markedly better, the second time if given the opportunity.
 
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For one thing, in those first two years when they went 48-22 they only made the NCAAT one, and weren’t rated above 47 in the NET. So maybe the schedule had something to do with that record. And the “respectable “50-46 is similar to what Red has done, but Red’s record was in a tougher league. And I think everyone here agrees we don’t want someone the same as Red.
He took over a team that went 9-22 and got them to the tournament in two years and won back to back coach of the year awards. That can be a success and we can still rather not have him be our coach. Both things can be true. We don't have to take a crap on everything he ever accomplished
 

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