Coach Search Options after Autry

[FloridaCuse]

I don’t think he’s married. On tv they called her his fiancée. I think they have a two month old baby boy and he hasn’t missed a game since he was two weeks old. Does that mean we’ll have daddy ball again in eighteen years?

can we hope?

 

[richmondcuse03]

can we hope?

if hes here in 18 years, i suspect we'll be happy.

 

[Owens guy]

Not much happened on this thread yesterday but today is starting off with a bang.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Not much happened on this thread yesterday but today is starting off with a bang.

it takes a village

 

[orange7]

I'm kind of surprised nobody has brought up Hodgson's ability to recruit -- notably his wife. Boeheim-esque.

Umm. (Goes to Google)…

How did he get that….

 

[Fly Rodder]

I think he has a bit of an inflated ego about his coaching ability. Don’t get me wrong. I am a fan of his but yea…

He might have a bit of "my next stop is my last stop" mentality and expects it to be KU or UNC or similar.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Umm. (Goes to Google)…

How did he get that….

 

[CusefanATL]

Well, in the last 60 years, they have conducted precisely ONE national search for an AD or a head coach of a revenue sport.

That just isn't even close to true in any way, shape or form. A national search led to Dick Mcpherson, Greg Robinson, Doug Marrone (he was not the front runner at all, just so happened to be a former syracuse player who showed up with a 200 page playbook), Dino Babers and Fran Brown.

AD: Darryl Gross and Mark Coyle were both national searches.

And BBall never needed a national search because Boeheim was there for 48 years and Autry was a pretty accepted hire at the time.

A national search doesn't equal national relevance. It is still a game between 2 teams, 1 team always wins, 1 team always loses. Success is never guaranteed before, during or even after hire. Sometimes you can hit a grand slam with the guy who is threatening to leave for the University of Rochester if not hired. Sometimes the national search sets you back 20 years with GROB (RIP). If we hired Nick Saban tomorrow, would that be considered a national search?

This post should be nominated and ultimately win 2026 post of the year. Let the rational likes and loves commence.

 

[orange7]

She hot?

I don’t think any of us would turn her down let’s just say that.

 

[sufan59]

#Winner. Anyone notice, it looks like he wears a rubber bracelet that says "Always Stay Humble". Let's hope Hodgson can convince her how great she will be as the first lady of Syracuse Men's Basketball. In seriousness, it's such a key role that often goes unnoticed. I can't remember, but it's been talked about how Juli really balanced Jim persona helping him to experience the success he did in the second half of his career including the Natty.

 

[NKR1978]

I would not have expected Jonesboro, Arkansas to be that developed.

If that man can get her, he can convince Carmelo to give him $30,000,000.

 

[Orangezoo]

I would not have expected Jonesboro, Arkansas to be that developed.

If that man can get her, he can convince Carmelo to give him $30,000,000.

And let’s not have anyone entertain creating something in AI inspired by that lol

 

[CusefanATL]

That just isn't even close to true in any way, shape or form. A national search led to Dick Mcpherson, Greg Robinson, Doug Marrone (he was not the front runner at all, just so happened to be a former syracuse player who showed up with a 200 page playbook), Dino Babers and Fran Brown.

And BBall never needed a national search because Boeheim was there for 48 years and Autry was a pretty accepted hire at the time.

A national search doesn't equal national relevance. It is still a game between 2 teams, 1 team always wins, 1 team always loses. Success is never guaranteed before, during or even after hire. Sometimes you can hit a grand slam with the guy who is threatening to leave for the University of Rochester if not hired. Sometimes the national search sets you back 20 years with GROB (RIP). If we hired Nick Saban tomorrow, would that be considered a national search?

This post should be nominated and ultimately win 2026 post of the year. Let the rational likes and loves commence.

and the last thing I will end with. Success can be slow. Examples:

Coach Mac's first 6 years.

and Coach K first 3 years

 

[Sherman20]

I don’t get the Chris Mack love. The guy had one good year in 4 at Lville and got fired. 2017 is a long way away from when he had a great year at Xavier. I mean he coaches at college of Charleston now

Personally, he seems kind of shady. But he’s wildly more proven of a coach than Hop. He had top 10 teams at Xavier his last few years there and took his teams to 10 NCAA tourneys. Your 2017 reference is incorrect. He had a national championship contender at Louisville in 2020 before the tourney was canceled due to Covid. They were #1 in the country that season. His last two seasons wound up getting marred by the Dino Gaudio extortion scandal and some player drama. He has a much more proven track record than Hop. I’d want to know how he’s running his offense these days. A modern fast-paced offense with lots of off-ball movement, screens and cuts is imperative for me.

 

[Fly Rodder]

and the last thing I will end with. Success can be slow. Examples:

Coach Mac's first 6 years.View attachment 260544

and Coach K first 3 yearsView attachment 260545

They were totally different eras with completely different expectations. Plus teams could only be built slowly. K started at $48k a year in salary (~$200k/year adjusted for inflation).

 

[HyattsCuse]

and the last thing I will end with. Success can be slow. Examples:

Coach Mac's first 6 years.View attachment 260544

and Coach K first 3 yearsView attachment 260545

This mindset is completely irrelevant today, unfortunately. Every season is independent of any other season. There’s no building a program when you have a different team every year with very little continuity. Players hardly stay more than a season or two.

The positive side of this is we could put together a national championship level team next year with the right coach, players, and resources (e.g. NIL).

 

[FrancoPizza]

Can you look into her eyes, with a straight face, and turn down her request for NIL?

 

[McCuse]

This mindset is completely irrelevant today, unfortunately. Every season is independent of any other season. There’s no building a program when you have a different team every year with very little continuity. Players hardly stay more than a season or two.

The positive side of this is we could put together a national championship level team next year with the right coach, players, and resources (e.g. NIL).

Exactly! The new reality. Need the "right" coach.

 

[TommyA13]

Hire BH and any ad not named “Heather Lyke” and we’ll be good! With Syracuse though it’s easier said than done unfortunately.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Orange Nation floating the $30 million and saying thats a no brainer

Before that I said in the chat on that show if you need $30 million, thats to compensate for your coaching deficiencies and Paulie the clown immediately sees that and disputes it

He then said you give Hop a 2 year contract, if he wins he stays, if he doesnt you find the next

Im sure Hops agent will settle for 2 year deal

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Good lord people... stop posting examples from the 80s and 90s. It's a different universe now even from just five years ago.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Is it too late to add Josh Allen to the hiring committee. This picture should be blasted to all the members of the BoT and plastered on the front page of the Syracuse newspaper. C'mon Mike, Donna and JDub. Make it all happen. They deserve to live in Upstate NY

 

[Sherman20]

I like both of them. They are great guys, hard workers, would help instill intensity, and work well one on one with players honing their skills, but neither are good hires for Hop. They are not going to innovate new offensive concepts for Hop.

Agreed. If they hire Devo, he needs to be like a fourth assistant.

 

[Sherman20]

Orange Nation floating the $30 million and saying thats a no brainer

Before that I said in the chat on that show if you need $30 million, thats to compensate for your coaching deficiencies and Paulie the clown immediately sees that and disputes it

He then said you give Hop a 2 year contract, if he wins he stays, if he doesnt you find the next

Im sure Hops agent will settle for 2 year deal

I hate them both. I can’t listen to them right now. My blood will boil.

 

[phil77]

If you need to attach 30 million dollars to a coach to justify hiring him then he is not the correct coach, it is really that simple.