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I’m investing in sunglasses because SU’s future is BRIGHT under MIKE HOPKINS!!!!!

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If you need to attach 30 million dollars to a coach to justify hiring him then he is not the correct coach, it is really that simple.
What if...what you need AND want is $30M regardless of what Coach must to be attached to that $$$? Does it matter if the coach is "correct" IF the real goal is the $30M? Is that number so big that "they" can't turn it down no matter the coach attached to making that happen? That's the fear for me.

To be crystal clear, I am not saying this is the case. And this is not meant as an endorsement of going with Hop. Nor is this a justification for taking the money and worrying later (even though I do think that is short sighted). Just offering a different perspective.
 
Lally should threaten to withhold football money if they pick Hopkins over his guy - especially if they go with Lyke as AD. Why would he continue to funnel money into an incompetent administration ?
Last thing I want is a donor doing that over everything. He has as much say as he should. Next thing you know his wife is doing the same thing for AD.

I want BH over hop but not at that cost. I’m tired of the power struggle
 
I’m investing in sunglasses because SU’s future is BRIGHT under MIKE HOPKINS!!!!!
I’m not sure Red is gone. Two years left on his contract plus buyout. Might be too much for SU to swallow and if NIL is increased?? The the save double salaries. Bring in$$$ studs and win. Perfect. Not my choice, but is Hop a better option?if they are not going all in!!!
 
I think we all need to start accepting that Hop is the next Syracuse coach. It should have been Hop instead of Autry anyways.

We need to make that right.

IF Hop does not succeed, then at that point and only that point can we consider someone without Syracuse ties.

If and only if Gerry Mcnamara and Jason Hart don't want the job.

This is the blueprint for success

OMG, I can’t believe I just read this. Might as well bring Grob back for another go and then Shafer if/when Fran leaves.
 
I’m not sure Red is gone. Two years left on his contract plus buyout. Might be too much for SU to swallow and if NIL is increased?? The the save double salaries. Bring in$$$ studs and win. Perfect. Not my choice, but is Hop a better option?if they are not going all in!!!

This has already been discussed over and over. The $ for the buyout has already been collected. He gone.
 
Melo was a Hall of Fame player. That doesn't mean he knows what makes a great coach, or how to run a college basketball program.

I've been clear that I don't know much about Hodgson or if he'd be a good hire for SU. I'm not stuck on him at all.

However, I don't "trust that proper due diligence and an effective process will be followed". Not given the current rudderless state of SU leadership.

I laid out what an executive-level hiring process for this program should be dozens of pages ago, and I've yet to see any evidence that's being followed. Sounds a lot more like Game of Thrones.
Question do we have any PRO Hall Of Fame members from SU either from football or basketball that went on to a HC position (aside from JB as he was inducted as a coach)? Hall of Fames for Football would be 1. Jim Brown, 2. Jim Ringo, 3. Larry Csonka, 4. Al Davis, 5. John Mackey, 6. Art Monk, 7. Floyd Little, 8. Marvin Harrison and 9. Dwight Freeney. For Bball it’s 1. Melo, and 2. Bing. Any insight? Maybe it can be done.
 
What if...what you need AND want is $30M regardless of what Coach must to be attached to that $$$? Does it matter if the coach is "correct" IF the real goal is the $30M? Is that number so big that "they" can't turn it down no matter the coach attached to making that happen? That's the fear for me.

To be crystal clear, I am not saying this is the case. And this is not meant as an endorsement of going with Hop. Nor is this a justification for taking the money and worrying later (even though I do think that is short sighted). Just offering a different perspective.

I share that fear.

And also the fear that Kiyan will be gone after year 2, and so will that influx of money beyond the immediate short term, and we'll be left with the coach.
 
I’m not sure Red is gone. Two years left on his contract plus buyout. Might be too much for SU to swallow and if NIL is increased?? The the save double salaries. Bring in$$$ studs and win. Perfect. Not my choice, but is Hop a better option?if they are not going all in!!!

The problem is the season tix renewals and dome home game attendances in that cycle ... They will be losing money hand over fist with each game under that premise of "Red is back". They've already have had to deal with that to a certain degree (and I am sure the bball home game event profitability books are not pretty) and they can't afford to lose a substantial more # of renewals and even sparser attended home games.

Maths.

Plus that ship has sailed and the buyout is queued.
 
That just isn't even close to true in any way, shape or form. A national search led to Dick Mcpherson, Greg Robinson, Doug Marrone (he was not the front runner at all, just so happened to be a former syracuse player who showed up with a 200 page playbook), Dino Babers and Fran Brown.

AD: Darryl Gross and Mark Coyle were both national searches.

And BBall never needed a national search because Boeheim was there for 48 years and Autry was a pretty accepted hire at the time.

A national search doesn't equal national relevance. It is still a game between 2 teams, 1 team always wins, 1 team always loses. Success is never guaranteed before, during or even after hire. Sometimes you can hit a grand slam with the guy who is threatening to leave for the University of Rochester if not hired. Sometimes the national search sets you back 20 years with GROB (RIP). If we hired Nick Saban tomorrow, would that be considered a national search?

This post should be nominated and ultimately win 2026 post of the year. Let the rational likes and loves commence.

OK, but you can take off Marrone and Fran Brown, because they recruited Syracuse, not the other way around. But, yes, they have done this a few times before. So let's hope they don't screw it up.
 
if you are going to criticize anyone, you pick me for correctly showing that success isn't always immediate? in any landscape or any era.

instead of picking the morons (not just IthacaMatt FYI) who think a national search somehow means a better chance of wins?

it isnt that hard to grasp.

Oh, so I'm a moron if they stay with the Boeheim coaching tree? LOL
Yeah, I'm the only guy here who is saying that.
 
I just... these takes that crop up occasionally (that I hope the in-the-know folks see for what they are at this point and shrug off) puzzle me immensely. Folks on here who have access to stuff and are willing to share bits of it make it abundantly clear that a) it's what they're hearing from a particular source that is but a piece of the overall puzzle and b) it's what they're hearing AT THE MOMENT and circumstances often change rapidly.
Like, remove yoursrlf and just don't read the "unverified" sh__ if it's so offensive to you
How did they hear about the 30M but lally has no idea? Someone is lying. Those are mutually exclusive. If it’s Lally in the end who was the liar then I’ll eat crow and apologize but until then I’m going to trust the horses mouth directly over burner accounts on a public fan forum that could enjoy riling up the fanbase
 
How did they hear about the 30M but lally has no idea? Someone is lying. Those are mutually exclusive. If it’s lally on the end who was the liar then I’ll eat crow and apologize but until then I’m going to trust the horses mouth directly over burner accounts on a public fan forum

Those "burner accounts" as you call them are boosters and SU alums who have shared info here for almost 30 years.
 
OMG, I can’t believe I just read this. Might as well bring Grob back for another go and then Shafer if/when Fran leaves.
I find it hard to believe by SU standards it’s not crazy. We’ll know what’s smoke and what’s real in a couple weeks. Should have chancellor news middle of next week. It may get clearer then.
This has already been discussed over and over. The $ for the buyout has already been collected. He gone.
I hope you are right.
 
How did they hear about the 30M but lally has no idea? Someone is lying. Those are mutually exclusive. If it’s Lally in the end who was the liar then I’ll eat crow and apologize but until then I’m going to trust the horses mouth directly over burner accounts on a public fan forum that could enjoy riling up the fanbase
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