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Dcuse said:
Nope. It was both coaching and overrated talent. As much as we all love Kyle, he was too small to stop the post scoring from ACC centers. Donnie Freeman was massively overrated by this board. We have 2 shooting guards who can't shoot. The backup center spends more time sprawled out on the floor than on his feet. Trust me, the talent level contributed to the losses.
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Not sure about that. I attended the games in Vegas and watched Kyle against three highly ranked teams. He held down the middle blocked a lot of shots and was elite on defense. We are better on defense with White playing to help down low.
 
llandz said:
While I don't want Hop, I won't give up on the program. I would never give up on the program. I have been a fan for 50 years. I would have to have faith that Hop can do somethiing he could not do at Washington. I would welcome him back, and support him to the best of my ability. Would I be dissapointed, yes, but not devastated.
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IMO, hiring Hop would be the program abandoning you and I and everyone else that has put many years of fandom (and $$$) into the program. It would be kowtowing to a small but influential group of people that care about program access and their own personal interests and friendships versus what is best for the program.
 
llandz said:
While I don't want Hop, I won't give up on the program. I would never give up on the program. I have been a fan for 50 years. I would have to have faith that Hop can do somethiing he could not do at Washington. I would welcome him back, and support him to the best of my ability. Would I be dissapointed, yes, but not devastated.
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If it were to play out this way, of course I'd support the program. My #1 passion in sports, across any type of league [NBA, NFL, MLB, etc.] is for Syracuse basketball, football, and lacrosse.

But I would be incredibly disappointed, because the choice of Hopkins would mean that the powers that be on the Hill learned nothing from the disastrous internal hire made three years ago, and were looking to do the same thing with a similarly underqualified candidate, while crossing their fingers and hoping for a different result. The definition of insanity.

It would also signify to me that instead of trying to hire the best candidate they can, they would be more caught up in looking backwards and trying to recapture past success that went away as the college basketball landscape shifted, but the program / HC did not adapt to the changing times.

And it would also indicate that they are not truly committed to trying to restore the program to its rightful place as a perennial top 25-caliber program / unwilling to invest in the program properly, and are instead focused on more tone deaf considerations, like keeping thing "in the family," and hoping that "excites" the fanbase enough to distract them from the small scale approach they are taking.

Net result, I wouldn't have much patience if the new coach falters [and that will be the case whether it is Hopkins or ANY external hire]. And given the in-person attendance this year, I'd wager that the patience of the fanbase at large is greatly lessened, and that they will vote with their wallets if immediate progress is not evident [and please note, "progress" doesn't necessarily mean we jump right back into the top 25, but the program can't be so god awful on both sides of the ball].
 
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shandeezy7 said:
IMO, hiring Hop would be the program abandoning you and I and everyone else that has put many years of fandom (and $$$) into the program. It would be kowtowing to a small but influential group of people that care about program access and their own personal interests and friendships versus what is best for the program.
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This seems to be the way things have gone for the last several years. And we've had to watch slop. This would be the breaking point where fans will abandon SU and never come back in the same way.
 
shandeezy7 said:
IMO, hiring Hop would be the program abandoning you and I and everyone else that has put many years of fandom (and $$$) into the program. It would be kowtowing to a small but influential group of people that care about program access and their own personal interests and friendships versus what is best for the program.
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Bingo. Nail on the head.
 
FrancoPizza said:
We can't speak the real reasons. But quite frankly it doesn't matter anymore if it's Hop. University might as well rent out more Turning Stone tarps for the upper deck.
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Interesting. I'm not privy to what the "real reasons" might be although I'm certainly curious about the why. I know the idea exists that Red was a "bridge" hire from the JB days to whatever comes afterward. But that always sounded like a flawed plan from the start. You hire the guy that you think will be the best at the job, not someone to manage the decline or transition to a different era. I always believed that Gerry would be a tremendous head coach based on his playing days and his will to win. Competitive fire is a must have trait. Red doesn't have it, Dino didn't have it. Gerry has it.
 
Cuse12 said:
I’m just so ready to be talking about what the future holds with whatever HC we hire. And hopefully it’s BH. I think the hype and vibes would be off the charts. I want that badly.
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For some reason i feel BH oozes with swagger, im thinking a young Bob Huggins

There was a time I felt Hopkins had that too but that becomes lost when you are .524 W%
 
Irishsecra1 said:
Yet JB advocated for Gerry to take over not Red.
He truly believed that Gerry had the it factor to build a successful team.
So Red has one winning season, with Gerry, and 2 losing seasons without him.
Gerry moved on to Siena where he took a 4 win team to the MAAC title game tonight.
Seems to me JB knew who was the better head coach material.
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I would argue that the book on Gmac is still to be written. I still have my doubts about his ceiling. And you can’t compare the situation at SU with Siena.
 
CooperCuse said:
This is where I'm coming from. Gerry was Jim's pick to succeed him as head coach. So why did the school essentially ignore Boeheim's wishes and hire Red instead? It seemed at the time, and now still, to be deliberately disrespectful. The team this year hasn't lost because they're not talented. It's because of coaching. I know people on here don't want to hear it but Jim was right.
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Then why didn't Jim make Gerry the Associate Head Coach? Surely, he knew how that would factor in to the transition.
 
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sweetpea said:
You got a few years on me. I played from 85 to 88. Looking back I thought Doc was old when he retired when in reality he was 57 or so. I'm older than that now. Crazy how we look at things when we are younger. When he retired he gave away a lot of old stuff (Jerseys) that he had in the storage room in back of his office. I'll run the campus when I'm in Oswego a few times a month. I can assure you that very little has changed at Laker since the day you left.
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Good lord how many people here went to the Swigs for college??
 
AcunaMatata said:
Then why didn't Jim make Gerry the Associate Head Coach? Surely, he knew how that would factor in to the transition.
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Also information not available to me. You would have to ask Jim or the administration.
 
MSOrange said:
JB could have made GMac lead assistant, but he just assumed he would get his way and was lazy about it, like many other things in his later years. And what narrative don't you believe?
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That boeheim had all this power and it evaporated at the end w the succession. Worst episode of game of thrones ever
 
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