Coach Search Options after Autry

[City of Cuse]

If it is between the two, as crazy as it sounds, I think I’d rather have Hop than GMac. Sometimes you need to fail to learn how to succeed.

 

[Orangezoo]

People need to stop punishing GMac for Reds sins.

This isn’t punishment - this is a very real scenario in terms of the lack of grace that will be provided to an in house hire.

 

[kingtidge]

I really really hope Blair shocks us with a candidate we never thought we could get. If it was the ISU coach as mentioned that would be a huge pick me up for this fanbase. Really hope we get shocked in the right way.

Holding out a slight hope that if Hodg snubbed us for Tennessee, we cross him off the list and on to next legit candidate.

We were supposed to be doing a national search after all, so it shouldn't be "Hodg out... ok family re-tread". We should have a legit list of targets we are working.

If not, that would indicate a ridculous level of unprofessionalism, especially with all the lip service that has been given about this "process".

 

[rocklloyd]

I went to Syracuse for the athletics (and growing up nearby w both of my parents employed by the school). So I basically grew up on that campus and a huge Syracuse sports fan. For me it was undisputed #1 and nothing was #2. The athletics were and are a major, major appeal.

I was a pretty good student in high school and likely could have gone to a better academic institution, but I knew SU was where I was supposed to be. Plus the free tuition (massive perk),

Anyway…. Destroying something that is a big time pull for students is just a bold, bold choice.

Same for me. Only applied to 1 school since my mother worked for Utica college which at the time was affiliated with Syracuse.

 

[Cusefan0307]

People need to stop punishing GMac for Reds sins.

No one's punishing him for that. It's the fact like the rest of the Syracuse contingent his offenses stink.

 

[VikesCuse84]

Do GMac supporters not realize what a massive, massive jump the MAAC is to the ACC? This all reeks.

They don’t realize or understand it at all. They just love gmac so they have irrational belief that it will work.

 

[PhatOrange]

If they hire Hop, there is nothing they can say to get that faith back. Gerry will make the Syracuse.com mouth breathers happy but that’s about it

How do either fit into what Wildhack said; intend to hire a proven winner, who can recruit at the highest level, develop players and compete for championships.

It's really hard to spin that either Syracuse guy fits that criteria.

We need a clean break from the JB tree. I'll be extremely disappointed if we don't.

 

[Briancuse]

My daughter mentioned to me that it would show that the administration is embarrassed about their hire.

She's 144 pct right.

 

[Scooch]

I went to Syracuse for the athletics (and growing up nearby w both of my parents employed by the school). So I basically grew up on that campus and a huge Syracuse sports fan. For me it was undisputed #1 and nothing was #2. The athletics were and are a major, major appeal.

I was a pretty good student in high school and likely could have gone to a better academic institution, but I knew SU was where I was supposed to be. Plus the free tuition (massive perk),

Anyway…. Destroying something that is a big time pull for students is just a bold, bold choice.

Yup. I love my alma mater dearly, and I think people put wayyy too much stock in the US News rankings as some kind of proof that the school's academics have "declined".

However, SU has two massive draws, IMHO: (1) specific, highly-regarded schools (e.g. Newhouse), and (2) being one of just 2 big time sports schools in the northeast (along with Penn State).

A lot of northeast kids want that big time college experience, and more and more are going south and west to get it. If SU fumbles away the rev share/NIL era, and it's football and men's hoops teams are irrelevant, its going to be extremely harmful.

Paying SU's tuition to get a degree that's not from one of the acclaimed schools is lunacy, unless it's part of a broader experience.

 

[chadvader]

If this is true, I wonder if it’s because we don’t want to meet his ask. I can’t imagine we didn’t want him outright.

Then again I never thought Lyke would be an AD candidate, so what the hell do I know?

Its possible that he came off as arrogant and unprepared in an interview, or that he thought that he was guaranteed the job.

 

[wiseman3]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

(Besides Pitino from Iona to St John's, but that really doesnt count)

 

[NineOneSeven]

Same for me. Only applied to 1 school since my mother worked for Utica college which at the time was affiliated with Syracuse.

Same, Clarkson because of engineering. And the athletics up in Potsdam, New York just don’t compare.

In hindsight I do wish I applied to some top tier academic schools just to see. Certainly had the grades.

But again… watching high level sports is a great thing when they aren’t the opposite.

 

[VikesCuse84]

How do either fit into what Wildhack said; intend to hire a proven winner, who can recruit at the highest level, develop players and compete for championships.

It's really hard to spin that either Syracuse guy fits that criteria.

We need a clean break from the JB tree. I'll be extremely disappointed if we don't.

Agreed they won’t fit into that criteria at all, but do we know if anyone that does is actually interested in the job?

 

[AngryOtto]

Amazes me the total lack of support for GMac on this board. I know it shouldn't.

Not sure why. He is not proven and another JB tree hire. Like Red he was there for the downturn in the program. It’s Red 2.0. They will give him a 5 year contract. If he cannot turn things around we will keep hearing from JB that he needs 5 years, it’s the players fault and not enough nil. Even the die hard fans are tired of these Legecy hires when there are better candidates available.

 

[Hawknate144]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

Shaheen Holloway, if you consider the BE a power conference, which is debatable these days

 

[Briancuse]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

(Besides Pitino from Iona to St John's, but that really doesnt count)

Didn't mcaffery go right to Iowa from siena?

 

[bnoro]

Why did we need a new thread?

 

[LAorange44]

Guys we don’t know who the next coach is!!! Let’s not make assumptions and/or ruin the surprise!!!!! This era is going to be great!!!!!

 

[cusefan88]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

(Besides Pitino from Iona to St John's, but that really doesnt count)

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Fran McCaffrey and Paul Hewitt are two alone just from Siena.

 

[BomberOrange]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

(Besides Pitino from Iona to St John's, but that really doesnt count)

Fran McCaffrey

 

[wiseman3]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

(Besides Pitino from Iona to St John's, but that really doesnt count)

On 2nd look, Shaheen Holloway from St Peter's to Seton Hall. Certainly not as big time as an ACC job, but still Holloway just finished his 4th season at Seton Hall and has yet to make the tournament in any year, 70-65 record overall)

 

[Cusefan0307]

According to my limited research, there has NEVER been a MAAC coach that has been hired directly to a Power conference school from the MAAC. The jump would be massive if its Gmac...

(Besides Pitino from Iona to St John's, but that really doesnt count)

That isn't true. Hewitt. Louie. Fran. Pitino LOL just off the top of my head.

 

[Orangefan1]

The maac stinks.

I love gerry. I always will. The kid is the fierce’s competitor toughest nails, just like us.

 

[chugg21]

I didn't watch more than a few minutes this season. I enjoy the board. If it wasn't for this community I would have a much more tenuous connection to SU basketball. And now that SU appears to be showing it doesn't care about winning or its fans, I'm not sure why I should care about SU.

Used to be on here during/after every game. Don't think I've been in a game thread in at least 2 years and can't see that level of fandom coming back anytime soon if ever.

 

[Briancuse]

Guys we don’t know who the next coach is!!! Let’s not make assumptions and/or ruin the surprise!!!!! This era is going to be great!!!!!

O we know who it's going to be