Cuse hate is running rampid

[CuseOnly]

Found this as the top definition of "Rampid" on Urban Dictionary and almost pi$$ed my pants laughing.

 

[bnoro]

Adrian Branch gave us a lot of love on ESPN during their final four team breakdown segment.

 

[reedny]

I get a kick out of the whole "NCAA admits mistake" nonsense. It just adds fuel to the SU "controversy" because it suggests that we didn't deserve to win. First of all, the 10 seconds may have been up at the time TC tipped the ball. The refs hands were going up about the same time as TC's tip. Second, it was an on-court judgment about whether the ball was across half court when it was hit.

But even if that call (with more than a minute remaining) was mistaken, what about the horrible "out-of-bounds" call on TC that incorrectly gave G another possession it didn't earn at the end of the game? Where's the apology to Boeheim? What a farse.

http://www.sbnation.com/college- basketball/2016/3/26/11307922/syracuse-gonzaga-steal-referee-mistake-replay-ncaa-tournament
http://collegespun.com/acc/syracuse/video-refs-absolutely-botch-late-call-in-syracuse-vs-gonzaga

 

[NKR1978]

A lot of hate for both UNC and Cuse from Phil Mushnick.

http://nypost.com/2016/04/01/syracuse-unc-represents-ugly-unchanging-reality-of-ncaa-sports/

If a racist POS like Phil Mushnick hates you, then you're doing something right. Wear that hate as a badge of honor.

 

[br801]

Found this as the top definition of "Rampid" on Urban Dictionary and almost pi$$ed my pants laughing.

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A "non-existant" word - ha!

 

[Cuse House]

Adrian Branch gave us a lot of love on ESPN during their final four team breakdown segment.

But did he pick us?

 

[reedny]

The institution reported that the paper submitted for additional academic credit was a revised version of student-athlete 7's personal statement prepared for his waiver and that the director of basketball operations and basketball facility receptionist provided text, research and citations to the final paper. The paper's creation, revision and submission occurred between January 26 and January 27, 2012. The director of basketball operations had student-athlete 7's personal statement saved on his computer. Over the course of approximately one day, the personal statement underwent seven revisions authored by the director of basketball operations or the basketball facility receptionist. The director of basketball operations and the basketball facility receptionist exchanged seven emails. Six of those emails contained newly revised versions of the paper as an attachment. The two also exchanged three phone calls. The grade awarded for the paper restored student-athlete 7's eligibility and the final paper was saved on the director of basketball operations' computer. The institution determined that student-athlete 7 received impermissible assistance in completing the assignment that violated the institution's academic integrity policies. The institution issued studentathlete 7 a failing grade.



From the NCAA report

This (in red) is the key -- We uncovered the problem. We issued him a failing grade and We suspended the kid. What does the NCAA want from us? Was it an infraction ... yes. But it was also one paper and one kid. SU has 600 student athletes to monitor. And what about the NCAA's "wheelhouse"? How many athletes at D-1 institutions across the country get tutorial assistance with papers? Is the NCAA now going to police every single tutorial? Because if it does that, the NCAA might as well start with the B1G and the SEC. They can take that big microscope they used on SU and focus in on the "classes" that UK BB players are taking, and the papers written by all those intellectuals playing football for Alabama and Ohio State (you know, the ones that don't go to college to "Play School"). What a farse.

 

[NKR1978]

This (in red) is the key -- We uncovered the problem. We issued him a failing grade and We suspended the kid. What does the NCAA want from us? Was it an infraction? Yes. But it was also one paper and one kid. How many athletes at D-1 institutions across the country get tutorial assistance with papers? Was the NCAA's "wheelhouse" suddenly expanded just for SU? Is the NCAA going to police every single tutorial now? Because if they do that, they might as well head for the B1G and the SEC. They can start digging into the "classes" that UK BB players are taking, and the papers written by all those intellectuals playing football for Alabama and Ohio State (you know, the ones that don't go to college to "Play School"). What a farse.

And just on a bigger societal issue. There are countless fraternity and sorority houses with notes and tests and papers that are passed down over the years. Or the parents who pay for $200/hr tutors so their kids can get into the best schools. Do we really think mommy and daddy are paying for tutors to sit back and do nothing?

Somehow this kid on his THIRD language is the poster boy for all that is wrong with college sports?

Cheating is rampant in schools across the country, but somehow no one gives a s*** unless it's done by a "student athlete" that, more often than not, is a minority.

 

[reedny]

And just on a bigger societal issue. There are countless fraternity and sorority houses with notes and tests and papers that are passed down over the years. Or the parents who pay for $200/hr tutors so their kids can get into the best schools. Do we really think mommy and daddy are paying for tutors to sit back and do nothing?

Somehow this kid on his THIRD language is the poster boy for all that is wrong with college sports?

Cheating is rampant in schools across the country, but somehow no one gives a s*** unless it's done by a "student athlete" that, more often than not, is a minority.

The main point is ... we uncovered the "cheating". That's the irony here ... that in Fab Melo's case, the system worked. The student athlete was suspended by the institution. It's disappointing, but that's what's SUPPOSED to happen when a program is being properly administered. They can fine us for the YMCA payments ... although that seems about as close to work-study as you can get. But sure, sanction us for that. But imposing Draconian penalties on an institution that finds an academic problem and punishes the proper parties? I don't get the logic there.

Nor do I understand, as you point out more broadly, why the NCAA chooses to ignore the mass-scale academic fraud going on at the P5 programs. This is, IMO, much more sinister than the Louisville-type scenarios with whores and recruiting. Academic fraud is the 800 pound elephant in the room here. UNC's a recent example, but probably not the worst. This goes FAR past one assignment. We're talking about entire fake classes or even undergraduate MAJORS. There are surrogates taking tests, teachers handing out automatic "A's", correspondence courses ... we all know this is going on. To pick on one ESL kid and make an example of a school that found a problem and suspended the student ... it just seems penny-wise and pound foolish. I mean ... look around the landscape of D-1 athletics. UNC, alone, had 1,800 athletes defrauding the system. No doubt there are thousands more. SU's the least of our problems.

 

[Ghost]

And just on a bigger societal issue. There are countless fraternity and sorority houses with notes and tests and papers that are passed down over the years. Or the parents who pay for $200/hr tutors so their kids can get into the best schools. Do we really think mommy and daddy are paying for tutors to sit back and do nothing?

Somehow this kid on his THIRD language is the poster boy for all that is wrong with college sports?

Cheating is rampant in schools across the country, but somehow no one gives a s*** unless it's done by a "student athlete" that, more often than not, is a minority.

Yeah, I concur with this. I would imagine there are other minor infractions we're guilty of too. I would think the NCAA knows this, so that's why they hung around for 10 years hoping something falls from the tree in their neverending quest to demolish us. Every school has it happening - you do your best to minimize it hopefully, and preferably you're not orchestrating it. lol

My GF said the worst violator she encountered by far when it came to pressure from the athletic department, even compared to the B10 schools she taught at was a D1 school in the tri-State area - that isn't exactly a sports powerhouse. She also thought cheating seemed far more obvious from gen pop than athletes.

Maybe they just hide it better because they're paid to do it up/tutor so they're better at not making it so obvious? I'm not sure how that works...Other students were far more likely to turn in a paper that was light years better than anything they were actually capable of writing. Probably because the oversight on that is non-existent. Everyone cheats, we got caught with our hand in the cookie jar, it happens. We took our punishment.

Now, what UNC did is just straight up bonkers. I don't know if anyone else was bold enough to go that far - Calipari probably shook his head at that one.

 

[NYCSUGrad]

Yeah, I concur with this. I would imagine there are other minor infractions we're guilty of too. I would think the NCAA knows this, so that's why they hung around for 10 years hoping something falls from the tree in their neverending quest to demolish us. Every school has it happening - you do your best to minimize it hopefully, and preferably you're not orchestrating it. lol

My GF said the worst violator she encountered by far when it came to pressure from the athletic department, even compared to the B10 schools she taught at was a D1 school in the tri-State area - that isn't exactly a sports powerhouse. She also thought cheating seemed far more obvious from gen pop than athletes.

Maybe they just hide it better because they're paid to do it up/tutor so they're better at not making it so obvious? I'm not sure how that works...Other students were far more likely to turn in a paper that was light years better than anything they were actually capable of writing. Probably because the oversight on that is non-existent. Everyone cheats, we got caught with our hand in the cookie jar, it happens. We took our punishment.

Now, what UNC did is just straight up bonkers. I don't know if anyone else was bold enough to go that far - Calipari probably shook his head at that one.

No, we MADE our own punishment by suspending Fab TWICE in the same season. The second suspension effectively ended his college career. What more were we supposed to do? Put him in a pillory and throw rotten tomatoes at him?

 

[721Comstock]

No, we MADE our own punishment by suspending Fab TWICE in the same season. The second suspension effectively ended his college career.
What more were we supposed to do? Put him in a pillory and throw rotten tomatoes at him?

I think that, in retrospect - this would have made all of us feel a whole lot better about it.

 

[LennX6]

Just an observation from my own life. I work in NYC and everyone in my large workplace knows I'm a cuse fan. I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped over the past few days and have been told the following by co-workers: - You guys had a great run but it's over now. - You better start drinking early because your game will be over by halftime. - I can't believe a dirty program like yours made it this far. - All of the cheating is paying off for you guys, good luck.

I throw venom back at these people but it's very sad to see what a horrible perception have of our program. It could be a Cinderella, feel good story but has turned into "this cheating team never belonged to begin with and will get destroyed."

Just an observation..is anyone else out there going through the same thing?

Embrace the dark side.

 

[realorange]

It will be interesting to see how the UNC case plays out. According to reports, the whole university knew about these "courses" and anyone could take them. So it was problem of the University as a whole and not just athletics.

The hammer can come down on athletics if it can be shown that anyone on their respective staffs encouraged athletes to take the "courses" knowing that they did not exist.

 

[orangenauburn]

My cousin was a tutor at SU, and tutored Walter Reyes. His mom, my aunt worked for SU and was a Newhouse student with a near 4.0 GPA. He always had nothing but kind things to say about Walter and his efforts in the classroom considering his schedule. He also stated that the kids on athletic scholarships are under such a much stronger microscope than 'normal' kids to the point that it is almost unfair. A lot of general students can get by without references and citations on papers whereas a student-athlete is expected to reference completely and without failure. Lack of referencing or improper citation is graded harsher on student athletes than it is on general students. SU holds their athletes to a higher standards than they do the general student -- and we still got boned for reporting ourselves on a third language student that we reported and punished twice.

 

[HtownOrange]

My cousin was a tutor at SU, and tutored Walter Reyes. His mom, my aunt worked for SU and was a Newhouse student with a near 4.0 GPA. He always had nothing but kind things to say about Walter and his efforts in the classroom considering his schedule. He also stated that the kids on athletic scholarships are under such a much stronger microscope than 'normal' kids to the point that it is almost unfair. A lot of general students can get by without references and citations on papers whereas a student-athlete is expected to reference completely and without failure. Lack of referencing or improper citation is graded harsher on student athletes than it is on general students. SU holds their athletes to a higher standards than they do the general student -- and we still got boned for reporting ourselves on a third language student that we reported and punished twice.

It is better that SU holds athletes more accountable than to be like the SEC and not care whether a kid actually learns anything so long as they ball.

 

[orangenauburn]

All students should be held equally accountable

 

[SBU72]

If SU should not be there because of "cheating" then neither should UNC. Perhaps they should cancel the game all together and have the fist game be declared the championship game.

 

[NYCSUGrad]

I think that, in retrospect - this would have made all of us feel a whole lot better about it.

True. I should have said rotten oranges!