I saw it with older houses in the south too when I was house hunting. Overall there are probably fewer because their first big housing boom was in the '60's and '70's when more than one bathroom was becoming more common.
Those are embarrassing quotes.Of course some of the usual suspects in favor of keeping the Columbus statue in the city. I would love to see in my lifetime some of old way of governing Syracuse be retired, like most all of these folks. They contribute nothing to forward advancement, it's the same old, same old with this crew. And I have no doubt a lot of money greasing their palms.
Pirro couldn't manage the finances of the SPCA FFS and yet here he is campaigning to keep this statue.
Supporters rally for Columbus statue in Syracuse. It’s about 1934, they say, not 1492
More than 100 people turned out to her former state Sen. John DeFrancisco and others.www.syracuse.com
"...More than 100 people gathered in Columbus Circle to cheer speakers including former state Sen. John DeFrancisco and former County Executive Nick Pirro.
...DeFrancisco, ...said the Columbus statue should not be seen as a celebration of any wrongs the explorer may or may not have committed (DeFrancisco said he wasn’t sure). ...“That was in 1934. Not 1492. Got it? Not 1492,‘' said DeFrancisco...
“Whatever Columbus may or may not have done in 1492, other than discover America, the fact of the matter is that this statue was put up not at the time that these events allegedly were happening,‘' he said."
And finally this dim bulb, the same guy pushing the Save 81 BS:
"...Mark Nicotra, Onondaga County’s deputy commissioner of parks, acted as emcee for the rally. Nicotra, who is also president of the Columbus Monument Corp., urged the crowd to sign an online petition supporting preservation of the statue.
“This is an important rallying of support, really in support of our Italian heritage,‘' Nicotra told the crowd. “That’s what is threatened.‘'
The whole article is embarrassing, I'm tempted to write a letter to the editor about it. FFS, why not build an Italian American history museum and move the statue there, or maybe put it in Pirro's front lawn. I have German heritage yet I'm not crying the blues about not having a Hitler statue. Sounds extreme right? Pretty much the same damn thing except Columbus didn't kill white people.
Columbus slaughtered people when he invaded their countries. I'm sorry you can't relate to 1492 but there is no denying he murdered a mass amount of people for his own gain. We don't need statues for that, it's unfortunate you don't feel that way.
Better tear down Ernie Davis
The Indigenous in the Americas slaughtered and enslaved too. It isn't like the European's did anything new. Conquered folks did bad things to the conquered back in the 15th Century.
Okay, this is a good point. So let's remove all of the statues that the white folks decided they needed to have to remind everyone of their murderous history.
Oh I agree...this is one of maybe two threads I follow in the OT Forum. The rest are too tribal and no one is changing anyone's opinion.
I'm sorry you feel that way. The Columbus statue is in the heart of the city as is the RT81 bridge, two enormous objects that define our history. As a resident here I'd like to see a change for the better which is entirely relevant to Development in and Around Syracuse.
Of course some of the usual suspects in favor of keeping the Columbus statue in the city. I would love to see in my lifetime some of old way of governing Syracuse be retired, like most all of these folks. They contribute nothing to forward advancement, it's the same old, same old with this crew. And I have no doubt a lot of money greasing their palms.
Pirro couldn't manage the finances of the SPCA FFS and yet here he is campaigning to keep this statue.
Supporters rally for Columbus statue in Syracuse. It’s about 1934, they say, not 1492
More than 100 people turned out to her former state Sen. John DeFrancisco and others.
"...More than 100 people gathered in Columbus Circle to cheer speakers including former state Sen. John DeFrancisco and former County Executive Nick Pirro.
...DeFrancisco, ...said the Columbus statue should not be seen as a celebration of any wrongs the explorer may or may not have committed (DeFrancisco said he wasn’t sure). ...“That was in 1934. Not 1492. Got it? Not 1492,‘' said DeFrancisco...
“Whatever Columbus may or may not have done in 1492, other than discover America, the fact of the matter is that this statue was put up not at the time that these events allegedly were happening,‘' he said."
And finally this dim bulb, the same guy pushing the Save 81 BS:
"...Mark Nicotra, Onondaga County’s deputy commissioner of parks, acted as emcee for the rally. Nicotra, who is also president of the Columbus Monument Corp., urged the crowd to sign an online petition supporting preservation of the statue.
“This is an important rallying of support, really in support of our Italian heritage,‘' Nicotra told the crowd. “That’s what is threatened.‘'
the indian chief heads around Columbus's feet? I'm sure back in 1934 the Onondaga's were totally on board with that, just like Pirro claims
We have Nicotra because of gerrymandering of the county districts. Liverpool and North Syracuse carved out a good portion of the city that most certainly would vote democrat but their votes would never outweigh the suburb vote.
