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Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

Grew up directly across from there on Hazelhurst Ave. It would be weird to see such a stark contrast, but it seems well-conceived.
I also grew up near there, Hazelhurst was on my bicycle route when going to the high school. I grew up on Memory Lane, yes there is a real street in N. Syracuse named Memory Lane. Actually it's original name was Memory Lane Parkway until they changed it sometime in the mid 70's
 
I don't know that West Taft area well, but I did walk through four houses about half a dozen properties east of Hinerwadel's about a year ago. The four houses closest to the Walgreens. Nice old homes. Naturally they're vacant and the owner wants to cash in on a commercial development site.

So sad what's happened in that stretch. Nice pre- and post-war residential blocks with that traffic mess right there. So what's the solution? Clearly acres of parking, two more chain retail stores, and a subdivision whose houses are a sand wedge away from Tops but whose residents will 100% of the time require a 5-minute car trip to shop at that Tops.
 
I don't know that West Taft area well, but I did walk through four houses about half a dozen properties east of Hinerwadel's about a year ago. The four houses closest to the Walgreens. Nice old homes. Naturally they're vacant and the owner wants to cash in on a commercial development site.

So sad what's happened in that stretch. Nice pre- and post-war residential blocks with that traffic mess right there. So what's the solution? Clearly acres of parking, two more chain retail stores, and a subdivision whose houses are a sand wedge away from Tops but whose residents will 100% of the time require a 5-minute car trip to shop at that Tops.
Were those homes near the dry cleaner across from the school or on the same side of the school? Since this is all in the Town of Clay they'll rezone Taft Rd as they wish without hesitation for commercial properties. Look at the monstrosity that Farone built next to Wegman's. I'd really hate to see Taft Rd turn into Rt 31 or even Rt11 where the Chik-Fil-A is, a total clusterf

And Northern Lights and the old KMart plaza remain mostly vacant.

I will say that at least they installed a sidewalk from the school to Allen Rd and down Allen for a stretch, better than we'll ever get in the Town of Salina part of Pitcher Hill.
 
Were those homes near the dry cleaner across from the school or on the same side of the school? Since this is all in the Town of Clay they'll rezone Taft Rd as they wish without hesitation for commercial properties. Look at the monstrosity that Farone built next to Wegman's. I'd really hate to see Taft Rd turn into Rt 31 or even Rt11 where the Chik-Fil-A is, a total clusterf

And Northern Lights and the old KMart plaza remain mostly vacant.

I will say that at least they installed a sidewalk from the school to Allen Rd and down Allen for a stretch, better than we'll ever get in the Town of Salina part of Pitcher Hill.
Directly opposite the school, just one property in from 11.

There's a good and a bad way to do commercial, and in Onondaga County we pretty much only do the bad. Short-term savings for developers trumps any sort of long-term planning. And residential homeowners tend to bear the brunt of the tax levy because the quality (and value) of the commercial real property is so low.
 
the proposed plan for the Hinerwadel's spot


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So. Much. Parking.
 
Big expose on Syracuse.com about the Green's and their mismanagement of multiple properties across four states. Subscriber exclusive although you may be able to get to the article through Google or Apple News.


"...the Skyline is just a small piece of the Greens’ growing real estate empire: nearly three dozen complexes across four states worth at least $60 million. Much of their property income comes from poor people and the government. Troy, 26, is the CEO of the Greens’ firm, while Tim is a partner...

Locally, Green National operates 10 apartment complexes in Syracuse as well as Springfield Gardens near Le Moyne College in DeWitt.

As of March 26, there were 312 outstanding code violations across seven of the Greens’ properties in Syracuse. That doesn’t include the Skyline...
 
Big expose on Syracuse.com about the Green's and their mismanagement of multiple properties across four states. Subscriber exclusive although you may be able to get to the article through Google or Apple News.


"...the Skyline is just a small piece of the Greens’ growing real estate empire: nearly three dozen complexes across four states worth at least $60 million. Much of their property income comes from poor people and the government. Troy, 26, is the CEO of the Greens’ firm, while Tim is a partner...

Locally, Green National operates 10 apartment complexes in Syracuse as well as Springfield Gardens near Le Moyne College in DeWitt.

As of March 26, there were 312 outstanding code violations across seven of the Greens’ properties in Syracuse. That doesn’t include the Skyline...

Oof I didn't realize they owned Springfield Gardens. I thought Longley Jones did an ok job with that property. It seemed really rundown for a number of years, but over the past decade or so, I thought it was on the upswing. I'm sure Green National is running it right back into the ground.
 
Oof I didn't realize they owned Springfield Gardens. I thought Longley Jones did an ok job with that property. It seemed really rundown for a number of years, but over the past decade or so, I thought it was on the upswing. I'm sure Green National is running it right back into the ground.

L-J ran it into the ground before the sale, unfortunately. Their longtime leadership aged out and the company cashed out toward the end, dialing back on capital improvements and maintenance. The Greens were the perfect buyer. And the conditions at Springfield Gardens have been deplorable, from what I've heard. No heat, no water, that sort of thing.
 
L-J ran it into the ground before the sale, unfortunately. Their longtime leadership aged out and the company cashed out toward the end, dialing back on capital improvements and maintenance. The Greens were the perfect buyer. And the conditions at Springfield Gardens have been deplorable, from what I've heard. No heat, no water, that sort of thing.

Yeah that all sounds about right.
 
located in the old Strong Hearts Cafe location


"How they got started

Rai earned his diploma at the International Culinary Center in New York City. Most recently, he was the pastry chef at Saint Urban Wine Bar & Restaurant in the city’s Westcott neighborhood. Janine got her culinary degree at Keiser University in Sarasota, Florida, and she bakes in her commercial kitchen at their home on Allen Street.

...they were on their way home from Florida and stopped for brunch in Washington, D.C. So many cafés there featured “grains bars.” They served open-face semi-sandwiches on toasted artisan breads.

...The menu will change frequently, depending on the season. In the spring, we’re treated to five gourmet toasts from the “Dough Bar,” all named after areas throughout the city.

The Hawley Green ($12): Chef Rai starts with two thick slices of multigrain toast with a layer of micro greens. They cut a full avocado into 12 thick slices and fan them across the high-end lettuce. He finishes with 10 halved cherry tomatoes that have spent days marinating in chili oil.

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located in the old Strong Hearts Cafe location


"How they got started

Rai earned his diploma at the International Culinary Center in New York City. Most recently, he was the pastry chef at Saint Urban Wine Bar & Restaurant in the city’s Westcott neighborhood. Janine got her culinary degree at Keiser University in Sarasota, Florida, and she bakes in her commercial kitchen at their home on Allen Street.

...they were on their way home from Florida and stopped for brunch in Washington, D.C. So many cafés there featured “grains bars.” They served open-face semi-sandwiches on toasted artisan breads.

...The menu will change frequently, depending on the season. In the spring, we’re treated to five gourmet toasts from the “Dough Bar,” all named after areas throughout the city.

The Hawley Green ($12): Chef Rai starts with two thick slices of multigrain toast with a layer of micro greens. They cut a full avocado into 12 thick slices and fan them across the high-end lettuce. He finishes with 10 halved cherry tomatoes that have spent days marinating in chili oil.

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He's got really nice stuff. It's a tough time to start a business, especially in that hidden storefront on a block with closed/below-capacity hotels, it'd be nice if people can seek this joint out and help them get off to a good start.
 
located in the old Strong Hearts Cafe location


"How they got started

Rai earned his diploma at the International Culinary Center in New York City. Most recently, he was the pastry chef at Saint Urban Wine Bar & Restaurant in the city’s Westcott neighborhood. Janine got her culinary degree at Keiser University in Sarasota, Florida, and she bakes in her commercial kitchen at their home on Allen Street.

...they were on their way home from Florida and stopped for brunch in Washington, D.C. So many cafés there featured “grains bars.” They served open-face semi-sandwiches on toasted artisan breads.

...The menu will change frequently, depending on the season. In the spring, we’re treated to five gourmet toasts from the “Dough Bar,” all named after areas throughout the city.

The Hawley Green ($12): Chef Rai starts with two thick slices of multigrain toast with a layer of micro greens. They cut a full avocado into 12 thick slices and fan them across the high-end lettuce. He finishes with 10 halved cherry tomatoes that have spent days marinating in chili oil.

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Looks good and I love Saint Urban, where the chef used to work.
 
That's too bad. Nice concept, but I never tried something that was really great from them. (Unlike the original butcher shop, which is awesome.)
I agree with this. My brother and I would stop there before basketball games on occasion a few years ago, it was a convenient layover before heading up to the dome. Sad to see it close though
 
Very nice. We have an Asian place here in Buffalo that my wife and I love called Street Asian Food. It's a husband and wife duo that must work 12 hour days at least (I've never been when they weren't there). They make dishes with Thai, Burmese, Japanese and South Asian influence. The Burmese flat noodles are so good.
Ever try Sun Restaurant?
 

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