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Brief write-up in Forbes on the emerging tech scene in Syracuse:

 
Brief write-up in Forbes on the emerging tech scene in Syracuse:

If they can figure out how to fund medicaid without using property taxes, there will be a land rush in central NY.
For more than 50 years New York State has financed its Medicaid program in a unique way: the State requires New York City and the 57 other counties to pay more for Medicaid than all other local governments in the nation combined.
 
If they can figure out how to fund medicaid without using property taxes, there will be a land rush in central NY.
And NYS has one of the most expansive Medicaid programs in the country. Property taxes are crushing here unless you live within the city limits but I expect they too will eventually catch up to the rest of the county.
 
And NYS has one of the most expansive Medicaid programs in the country. Property taxes are crushing here unless you live within the city limits but I expect they too will eventually catch up to the rest of the county.
Many moons ago, courts in NYS ruled that using property taxes to fund school systems was illegal (if not unconstitutional?). From a non-legalistic point of view, I don't think property taxes are suitable for funding lots of things.
 
Anyone have any info on the status of Harrison House in downtown Syracuse? It's been vacant for 10+ years now, right? What's the story? From 2011:


Nothing concrete, but my understanding is that given where construction costs are renovation isn't feasible. Too few units to justify the expense (gut reno, new elevator tower, etc.). Demolition is a possibility but keeping it mothballed is the most cost-effective option right now.
 
Nothing concrete, but my understanding is that given where construction costs are renovation isn't feasible. Too few units to justify the expense (gut reno, new elevator tower, etc.). Demolition is a possibility but keeping it mothballed is the most cost-effective option right now.

It’s completely ridiculous that it’s been sat on this long. Who owns it? Upstate?
 
It’s completely ridiculous that it’s been sat on this long. Who owns it? Upstate?

Yeah. There's a lot of real estate back there that's probably going to jump in value when I-81 comes down. I think the lack of infrastructure caused by the creation of the superblock in the '60s has held it back; unfortunately there's no proposal out there to reverse that. But Sutton owns almost everything else on the block and they can be trusted to maintain great Class A properties if nothing else.
 
If anyone was interested in checking out some recent renovations at Nottingham HS:

 
Rooftop Bar coming to Tipp
Saw that today, at the old George O'Dea's and it looks pretty damn nice

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Indeed and the old bar was nothing to write home about. Glad to see that it's staying in the family too, it will be a welcome entrance to Tipp Hill on that side. Now if only Rosie O'Grady's would get some action, been vacant too long.
Maybe they could ditch the apartment idea at the bottom of bryant and put a bar or diner there too
 
Maybe they could ditch the apartment idea at the bottom of bryant and put a bar or diner there too

Other than the, shall we say, eccentricity of the developer, zoning is the main sticking point with those townhouses and South Wilbur and Bryant, so commercial use is a non-starter.

But more commercial in the South Wilbur corridor in both directions would be a great thing, same with this West Fayette corridor.
 
Indeed and the old bar was nothing to write home about. Glad to see that it's staying in the family too, it will be a welcome entrance to Tipp Hill on that side. Now if only Rosie O'Grady's would get some action, been vacant too long.
Rosie’s sadly closed because of the violence there. They sponsored our rec basketball team for years when Driscoll owned it. Never really was a place that had any serious issues back then but weren’t there often on the weekend though. For some reason when the Coleman son took it over, it changed and there were weapons, attacks etc. Sad, it was a decent place and much larger than Dooley’s, O’Deas, which was always so odd shaped (but cool from the outside).
 
Rosie’s sadly closed because of the violence there. They sponsored our rec basketball team for years when Driscoll owned it. Never really was a place that had any serious issues back then but weren’t there often on the weekend though. For some reason when the Coleman son took it over, it changed and there were weapons, attacks etc. Sad, it was a decent place and much larger than Dooley’s, O’Deas, which was always so odd shaped (but cool from the outside).
I played softball for them too back in the 80's, there was the occasional fist fight but never anything worse than that. It's a shame really, when they installed all the TVs it was a great place to go watch a game - other than they always had a plumbing issue with the bathrooms. Plus they have the giant patio. I can't imagine what the cost would be to get the place, it's an anchor to Tipp Hill.
 
I played softball for them too back in the 80's, there was the occasional fist fight but never anything worse than that. It's a shame really, when they installed all the TVs it was a great place to go watch a game - other than they always had a plumbing issue with the bathrooms. Plus they have the giant patio. I can't imagine what the cost would be to get the place, it's an anchor to Tipp Hill.

I believe Rosie's just sold? Might not want to quote me on that. But stay tuned.
 
It’s too bad it can’t really be activated like Linden Street in Geneva:

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Yeah, string lights are pretty, but Bank Alley's got two major limitations:

1.) That's historically where the upper floors of buildings have their points of ingress/egress. The properties, especially on Salina, are very narrow so both upper-level and storefront uses can't share the same frontage. So all the active uses face the two parallel streets and leave Bank Alley quiet.
2.) Though the City cleaned it up, service activity has to occur somewhere. That somewhere is Bank Alley.

That said, it'd only take one basement bar or destination commercial space with a Bank Alley entrance to draw some attention back there. And that might deter the street people from using the space for drug transactions or taking daytime public s---- (who am I kidding, no it wouldn't). The McCarthy Building (with the new retail space downstairs and in the basement) has a quasi-hidden alley entrance and it's a nice option.
 
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