Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[xc84]

Looks like McMahon's land-buying strategy was a big part

Luring Micron to Syracuse: Dinner in Armory Square, runs along the creek, lots of land and money

Ryan McMahon's "calculated risk" to buy up land in Clay paid off, thanks to state and federal incentives and a favorable impression of Syracuse.

www.syracuse.com

 

[TexanMark]

100%

Expect Mud Mill and Caughdenoy Roads to become major players for future development of commercial, retail, and residential neighborhoods.

Easy access to 81 and 31, lots of available land, water nearby.

Big potential there.

They need to extend the road that runs in front of Clinton's Ditch, Paul DeLima further north to Mud Mill with an interchange. It might be worthwhile to make a parallel road on the western side.

 

[xc84]

With Micron's HQ in Boise, will SU get a home and home football game with the Broncos?

 

[TexanMark]

Couple thoughts.

Does this encourage Lockheed to continue to focus on their Syracuse campus and commit greater investment here?

With Micron coming in, Utica-Rome will benefit in the fact that Wolfspeed will have to improve their wages. While they pay well for the area, they are low wages comparative to the industry. Moving or commuting an hour away won't be difficult for those currently employed there, if Micron is going to pay more.

Can the powers that be land another whale for the south side of Syracuse, or something just east in Madison county?

Will SU invest greater in an engineering and computer science program / school?

Speaking of Utica-Rome

The Syracuse and Utica-Rome area is becoming more intertwined. I wonder if this will actually ever become a bigger consolidated metro area?

 

[TexanMark]

With Micron's HQ in Boise, will SU get a home and home football game with the Broncos?

LOL I thought of that immediately

Trust me it'll be brought up with SU.

 

[xc84]

LOL I thought of that immediately

Trust me it'll be brought up with SU.

I'd do that trip. Make it happen

 

[orangenauburn]

Speaking of Utica-Rome

The Syracuse and Utica-Rome area is becoming more intertwined. I wonder if this will actually ever become a bigger consolidated metro area?

HP Hood in Oneida is locked in by the neighborhoods, and if they continue to grow there, will need to expand in other areas. They have some offshoot spaces in Vernon, but there is not much else in VVS area with the loss of the China / Cutlery business, outside the casino - which itself is supposedly growing again (see it when it happens to believe it).

Also, can you consider Chittenango a suburb of Syracuse? I wish the thruway had an exit at Chitt.

Canastota is kind of a dying town.

New Hartford is working on developing a bunch of land off Middle Settlement.

Utica is finishing up the downtown hospital, which will most likely spur a lot of development and improvements. They are also almost done with the additional project at the Adirondack Bank Arena.

Out in Caz they have Marquardt. That's another area that would benefit from a big investment south of Syracuse.

Rome has seen a mass exodus over the years. Can the new investment in drones and other government projects revitalize and stem the city? To be frank, outside a select part of the city, it's turned pretty dumpy and is a blight. Rome needs a lot of help.

 

[Cheriehoop]

They need to extend the road that runs in front of Clinton's Ditch, Paul DeLima further north to Mud Mill with an interchange. It might be worthwhile to make a parallel road on the western side.

There is already an exit off 481 onto Caughdenoy Rd. There are some newer developments though heading north between that exit and Rte 31.

 

[Fly Rodder]

They need to extend the road that runs in front of Clinton's Ditch, Paul DeLima further north to Mud Mill with an interchange. It might be worthwhile to make a parallel road on the western side.

And change the name of Mudmill Rd to something a tad more appealing.

 

[OttoMets]

Looks like McMahan's land-buying strategy was a big part

Luring Micron to Syracuse: Dinner in Armory Square, runs along the creek, lots of land and money

Ryan McMahon's "calculated risk" to buy up land in Clay paid off, thanks to state and federal incentives and a favorable impression of Syracuse.

www.syracuse.com

I was critical.

Big credit to him.

 

[SWC75]

Speaking of Utica-Rome

The Syracuse and Utica-Rome area is becoming more intertwined. I wonder if this will actually ever become a bigger consolidated metro area?

How about development to the north linking Syracuse and Oswego, a port on the Great Lakes. I saw a documentary once that said that the Erie Canal wasn't connected to Oswego because the politicians of the time were mad that Canada remained loyal to the Crown and felt that making Oswego a major port would help Canada, so they built it parallel to Lake Ontario and west to Buffalo and our Midwest benefited instead.

 

[bevosu]

According to McMahon, they have already committed - papers signed etc.

I know the physical facility will happen and that is great, but I wonder about the employment projection. 50k? I know there will be a lot of jobs created to support Micron, but I wonder if that might be honeymoon talk rather than reality.

Regardless the potential is there. Super news for CNY.

 

[orangenauburn]

I know the physical facility will happen and that is great, but I wonder about the employment projection. 50k? I know there will be a lot of jobs created to support Micron, but I wonder if that might be honeymoon talk rather than reality.

Regardless the potential is there. Super news for CNY.

Definitely inflated.

Wolfspeed built in Utica has created jobs, but the development around the area and or offshoot from it, just hasn't materialized with any significance yet.

 

[TexanMark]

Micron to build new chip plant in upstate New York instead of Lockhart

The company had been considering a site in Lockhart for a multibillion-dollar facility

www.statesman.com

Lockhart TX was the 2nd place finisher

The city is renowned for Texas BBQ

 

[Cusefan0307]

Definitely inflated.

Wolfspeed built in Utica has created jobs, but the development around the area and or offshoot from it, just hasn't materialized with any significance yet.

They did just open this year. That said the Utica facility is only 1/5th of the size of one fab that will be built in Clay.

 

[orangenauburn]

Micron to build new chip plant in upstate New York instead of Lockhart

The company had been considering a site in Lockhart for a multibillion-dollar facility

www.statesman.com

Lockhart TX was the 2nd place finisher

The city is renowned for Texas BBQ

And they are rightfully butt hurt

 

[Fly Rodder]

And they are rightfully butt hurt

Eh, I think they’ll be ok.

Micron's decision represents something of a rare loss for the Austin metro area in recent years. The region has logged a string of major economic development wins, including big projects by Apple, Samsung and Tesla, as well as decisions by both Tesla and Oracle to relocate their corporate headquarters here.

 

[orangenauburn]

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[Trueblue25]

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For those of you who see no difference between moderate and GOP republicans… this guys an ass

 

[Cusefan0307]

For those of you who see no difference between moderate and GOP republicans… this guys an ass

He doesn’t even live in our district!!!

 

[xc84]

For those of you who see no difference between moderate and GOP republicans… this guys an ass

can you give an example of a moderate Republican and and a GOP Republican?

 

[Cusefan0307]

can you give an example of a moderate Republican and and a GOP Republican?

I’ll bite.

Adam Kinzinger(all but extinct) and Claudia Tenney/Elise Stefanik(Grade A losers who don’t care about their constituents. They just care about politics)

 

[xc84]

I’ll bite.

Adam Kinzinger(all but extinct) and Claudia Tenney/Elise Stefanik(Grade A losers who don’t care about their constituents. They just care about politics)

So Kinzinger is a moderate Republican and Stefanik is a GOP Republican? I thought Stefanik was a MAGA Republican. Not sure what a GOP Republican is. Is there a difference? What if you are just super conservative but hate Trump and all the BS he brings in?

This is why I don't like the labels. People are what they say and do.

 

[Cusefan0307]

So Kinzinger is a moderate Republican and Stefanik is a GOP Republican? I thought Stefanik was a MAGA Republican. Not sure what a GOP Republican is. Is there a difference? What if you are just super conservative but hate Trump and all the BS he brings in?

This is why I don't like the labels. People are what they say and do.

I think you're arguing semantics. I think TB misspoke. There's a certain moderate Republican that's all, but extinct. Kinzinger comes to mind here. Larry Hogan or John Kasich might be a good examples...

 

[xc84]

I think you're arguing semantics. I think TB misspoke. There's a certain moderate Republican that's all, but extinct. Kinzinger comes to mind here. Larry Hogan or John Kasich might be a good examples...

I wasn't using semantics. I honestly want to understand what is meant by "moderate Republican" and "a GOP Republican". I couldn't see the link so had no idea what it was pointing out. If those terms were used in error, then we don't need to go any further. Which category does Liz Cheney fit into ?