Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[Trueblue25]

can you give an example of a moderate Republican and and a GOP Republican?

More moderate republican, McMahon working to achieve a bipartisan accomplishment like Micron with Hochul and Schumer for the greater good of NY.

GOP blowhard, Texas Governor Abbott who’d rather his state suffer than work with the left or cut some slack to RINOs

 

[Trueblue25]

I wasn't using semantics. I honestly want to understand what is meant by "moderate Republican" and "a GOP Republican". I couldn't see the link so had no idea what it was pointing out. If those terms were used in error, then we don't need to go any further. Which category does Liz Cheney fit into ?

I should have said MAGA rather than GOP but honestly they’re blending anyways.

What I mean is conservatives who will work across party lines to get stuff done vs MAGA party over country dinguses

 

[xc84]

I should have said MAGA rather than GOP but honestly they’re blending anyways.

What I mean is conservatives who will work across party lines to get stuff done vs MAGA party over country dinguses

At this point, I can respect any Republican who cares about the Constitution and will abide by it and put that above party or cult leader. Working across party lines would be a bonus.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Ryan McMahon postpones $25M sports complex, asks lawmakers to use money for Micron project

The money comes from the county's $89 million federal stimulus grant.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Ghost]

Armory Square Starbucks shutting down soon, cites safety issues

The Starbucks in Armory Square, located at 290 West Jefferson Street is shutting down after citing various safety issues around the store.A starbucks Corparate

www.google.com

 

[shandeezy7]

Syracuse city offices exit downtown flatiron building, making way for developers

The government building will be turned into a mixed-use development that includes commercial businesses and housing.

www.syracuse.com

 

[OttoMets]

Syracuse city offices exit downtown flatiron building, making way for developers

The government building will be turned into a mixed-use development that includes commercial businesses and housing.

www.syracuse.com

I approve. Good deal.

 

[shandeezy7]

I approve. Good deal.

Hopefully much of the historic integrity of the building will be maintained. It's one of downtown's oldest buildings, and predates the famous flatiron building in NYC by over 30 years. Is it technically part of the Hanover Square historic district?

 

[OttoMets]

Hopefully much of the historic integrity of the building will be maintained. It's one of downtown's oldest buildings, and predates the famous flatiron building in NYC by over 30 years. Is it technically part of the Hanover Square historic district?

Yes, it is a contributing property to the historic district. So they're going to keep the entirety of the exterior intact. The "Arby's wing," as some of us call it, is a question mark (Adam's quote about some people not being a fan refers to me, I think). It likely wasn't constructed to code in 1986, but it's an interesting space (and a freebie for the developers of sorts, since it sits in the City right of way but will transfer with the remainder of the property).

As far as the interior goes, there are a couple nice bannisters but not much else. The building benefits from some State code variances, since vertical ingress/egress are limited. Hanover's architects will have to get creative to rectify this.

But there's no better team to tackle this job. If we're lucky, this will be the poster child for mixed-income residential development in the city.

 

[shandeezy7]

Yes, it is a contributing property to the historic district. So they're going to keep the entirety of the exterior intact. The "Arby's wing," as some of us call it, is a question mark (Adam's quote about some people not being a fan refers to me, I think). It likely wasn't constructed to code in 1986, but it's an interesting space (and a freebie for the developers of sorts, since it sits in the City right of way but will transfer with the remainder of the property).

As far as the interior goes, there are a couple nice bannisters but not much else. The building benefits from some State code variances, since vertical ingress/egress are limited. Hanover's architects will have to get creative to rectify this.

But there's no better team to tackle this job. If we're lucky, this will be the poster child for mixed-income residential development in the city.

That's great, appreciate the info, as always. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the atrium. Feels like there could be a better use of that space, especially if something like a brewpub or coffee shop or something like that could utilize the space and have one of the best outdoor seating areas in the city.

 

[OttoMets]

That's great, appreciate the info, as always. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the atrium. Feels like there could be a better use of that space, especially if something like a brewpub or coffee shop or something like that could utilize the space and have one of the best outdoor seating areas in the city.

Exactly. There's a new wine store on that side of the State Tower and these guys think they'll be able to activate that block for the first time since it was closed to traffic in the 1980s*. Their first thought was to move the residential lobby entrance to that side but flank it with destination retail in the Arby's wing. We'll see.

*When the building was renovated in the 1980s by a group of investors that included a couple University Hill landlords and a Boston developer, the pitch was that the Lee Alexander administration should abandon that 200 block of East Genesee and the developer would build an indoor/outdoor space that would become "Syracuse's Faneuil Hall." Fast-forward to completion of the project, for reasons lost to history the Common Council never did abandon the block but the developer did skirt Codes and build the 4,616-square foot Arby's wing on City right of way, apparently without formal permission. It's used for occasional events but has never been a draw. Neither was the building itself. Pastabilities was an early tenant but the developer had little luck landing office tenants and quickly got underwater. Naturally the City (which I think had some low or no-interest loans into the project) decided to help out and purchased the whole property for over market.

 

[KellySyracuse]

Mike Yorton, owner of iconic Syracuse beer bar The Blue Tusk, has died at age 49

Yorton was the visionary behind the pioneering bar and its laid-back vibe.

www.syracuse.com

"Syracuse, N. Y. — Mike Yorton, the dread-locked and bearded leader of the “Tuskafari” at his landmark Armory Square bar The Blue Tusk, died Sunday. He was 49.

Yorton, 49, operated The Blue Tusk in the Center Armory building with his father, Tim, and other members of his family from 1995 until it closed last year.

...A cause of death has not been determined. Funeral arrangements are incomplete at this time."

 

[FAL]

Mike Yorton, owner of iconic Syracuse beer bar The Blue Tusk, has died at age 49

Yorton was the visionary behind the pioneering bar and its laid-back vibe.

www.syracuse.com

"Syracuse, N. Y. — Mike Yorton, the dread-locked and bearded leader of the “Tuskafari” at his landmark Armory Square bar The Blue Tusk, died Sunday. He was 49.

Yorton, 49, operated The Blue Tusk in the Center Armory building with his father, Tim, and other members of his family from 1995 until it closed last year.

...A cause of death has not been determined. Funeral arrangements are incomplete at this time."

Their beer was always served too cold…
Unlike Clark’s Alehouse where they prided themselves on the fact that not all beers should be served like they just came out of a freezer 2 nanoseconds before freezing solid.

 

[shandeezy7]

Their beer was always served too cold…
Unlike Clark’s Alehouse where they prided themselves on the fact that not all beers should be served like they just came out of a freezer 2 nanoseconds before freezing solid.

I'm not sure that's an appropriate response to that post.

 

[shandeezy7]

New owner plans to turn closed CNY golf course into a beer and food 'destination'

Preliminary rendering shows a potential 'Flynner's Brewery' on the site

www.syracuse.com

 

[donniesyracuse]

Unlike Clark’s Alehouse where they prided themselves on the fact that not all beers should be served like they just came out of a freezer 2 nanoseconds before freezing solid.

Brewhouses make sure you get the appropriate glass for each variety of beer, but all of them are served at the same temperature. The United States is now undoubtedly the beer center of the world, but we have not figured the temperature thing out yet.

 

[shandeezy7]

Screw these people. For real.

State judge orders temporary stop to I-81 rebuild in Syracuse

The group Renew 81 for All asked for a temporary restraining order against the state DOT

www.syracuse.com

 

[KellySyracuse]

Screw these people. For real.

State judge orders temporary stop to I-81 rebuild in Syracuse

The group Renew 81 for All asked for a temporary restraining order against the state DOT

www.syracuse.com

Just read that story, it's enraging this project is again delayed because of these jackasses. I would think Destiny would be running out of money to fund this crap.

 

[KellySyracuse]

STATEMENT Mayor Walsh Statement on I-81

Statement by Syracuse Mayor Ben Walsh on State Supreme Court Preliminary Injunction on Interstate 81 Viaduct Project

www.syr.gov

Statement by Syracuse Mayor Ben Walsh on State Supreme Court Preliminary Injunction on Interstate 81 Viaduct Project:

“The preliminary injunction is another unnecessary delay to progress on the Interstate 81 project. It risks a setback to local people who need the jobs and opportunity that the $2 billion-plus infrastructure investment will create. The project has undergone a rigorous multi-year state review and is authorized by a federal Record of Decision. It should continue to move ahead, and I look forward to the State’s response to the judge’s ruling. The City is focused on working with the New York State Department of Transportation and local stakeholders to achieve the full benefits of the Community Grid alternative. We’ve also worked shoulder to shoulder with local, state and federal partners to make sure local residents get the training and preparation they need to build careers.”

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Don't do a damn thing with I-81.

In another few years, it'll fall down on it's own.

And people will be forced to use I-481 anyways.

Only it'll be the 2 lane version, not the 3-4 lane expanded version that's needed.

Then we'll see how happy people are.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Ridiculous. They lost. Get over it. They’ve been debating this since I was in college and I’m almost 40.

 

[shandeezy7]

 

[shandeezy7]

Long overdue, IMO:

Changes to obsolete Syracuse laws could spur Westcott project, shape city’s future

The city is overhauling its zoning laws for the first time in 60 years, giving it an opportunity to shape what Syracuse looks like for decades.

www.syracuse.com

 

[IthacaMatt]

Long overdue, IMO:

Changes to obsolete Syracuse laws could spur Westcott project, shape city’s future

The city is overhauling its zoning laws for the first time in 60 years, giving it an opportunity to shape what Syracuse looks like for decades.

www.syracuse.com

I like the idea of loosening mixed used zoning to create more walkable neighborhoods. There has to be sufficient security, though, and good street lighting, so people feel safe to walk the neighborhoods after dark.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Ridiculous. They lost. Get over it. They’ve been debating this since I was in college and I’m almost 40.

It's not the Republican way of doing things, to admit that anything is ever truly "over".