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Googling around trying to circumvent the paywall, there are some very... interesting... comments about this project from folks.
hmmm, good or bad comments? Bad meaning the project will be delayed and good meaning the judge will let the project proceed?
 
Just a lot of talk about evil democrats and how awful the project is, etc.

I will say that once folks get a look at this project within the city of Syracuse, there are going to be some very surprised and disappointed people. It's 1965 all over again, the traffic engineers are taking a hatchet to the city.
 
I will say that once folks get a look at this project within the city of Syracuse, there are going to be some very surprised and disappointed people. It's 1965 all over again, the traffic engineers are taking a hatchet to the city.
Aren’t they basically turning 81 into a business loop? Meaning Erie BLVD like street? I don’t see how that’s good for development or pedestrian.
 
Aren’t they basically turning 81 into a business loop? Meaning Erie BLVD like street? I don’t see how that’s good for development or pedestrian.

Not only that, but serious arterial-style widenings of several other city streets as well.

Because society has learned nothing.
 
Not only that, but serious arterial-style widenings of several other city streets as well.

Because society has learned nothing.
West Street? Not sure where else there's room.
 
Not only that, but serious arterial-style widenings of several other city streets as well.

Because society has learned nothing.

Society has learned that the priority is to get cars through neighborhoods as quickly as possible.

Never mind the people/pedestrians who actually live in these neighborhoods.

 
Not only that, but serious arterial-style widenings of several other city streets as well.

Because society has learned nothing.
Well, that was 65+ years ago. All the people who wrecked the city then are all dead. Whocouldaknowd.

I have zero doubts that the traffic engineers are A-OK with wrecking stuff to make it easier for cars to get around because that's their job.
 
when i go down to visit florida all i know is i am glad i dont need to walk around down there.. even in a car its dangerous.. lights go green look twice before entering the road. Cars are going 20-30mph over the speed limit and 10-15 secs after it goes red they zoom right thru.. I saw 3-5 accidents a day and I was only driving in 30-40mph zones.
 
I will say that once folks get a look at this project within the city of Syracuse, there are going to be some very surprised and disappointed people. It's 1965 all over again, the traffic engineers are taking a hatchet to the city.
It looks good to me. I have followed this from the beginning and see much more downtown upside than downside. I have seen all the plans.
 

"Syracuse University recently spent $5.8 million to add a prominent location to its collection of properties in the Marshall Street business district near campus.

It brings SU’s total investment in property in the Marshall Street area in recent years to more than $90 million.

The latest purchase was the parcel at the northeast corner of Marshall Street and South Crouse Avenue. It’s listed in city property tax records as 737 S. Crouse Ave. but also known as 101 Marshall St.

The lot includes storefronts that recently housed a now-closed NBT Bank branch (at the corner), and a now-closed Jimmy Johns sandwich shop and the still-open Pita Pit restaurant (both facing Marshall Street)."

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"Syracuse University recently spent $5.8 million to add a prominent location to its collection of properties in the Marshall Street business district near campus.

It brings SU’s total investment in property in the Marshall Street area in recent years to more than $90 million.

The latest purchase was the parcel at the northeast corner of Marshall Street and South Crouse Avenue. It’s listed in city property tax records as 737 S. Crouse Ave. but also known as 101 Marshall St.

The lot includes storefronts that recently housed a now-closed NBT Bank branch (at the corner), and a now-closed Jimmy Johns sandwich shop and the still-open Pita Pit restaurant (both facing Marshall Street)."

5HZAXVQRXFCEPAT77HP53CHRCE.jpg

I believe there used to be a Hershey’s ice cream shop there back in the mid-2000’s. These properties stay on the tax rolls unless they are converted to use for “educational purposes,” right?
 
I believe there used to be a Hershey’s ice cream shop there back in the mid-2000’s. These properties stay on the tax rolls unless they are converted to use for “educational purposes,” right?
Yes I would think so and I remember the Hershey's ice cream shop. The Chancellor wanted to clean up Marshall St and I guess I can't blame him. I see Jacob's has the Shirt World building up for sale as well, be interesting to see if the University caves in and buys him out.
 
I believe there used to be a Hershey’s ice cream shop there back in the mid-2000’s. These properties stay on the tax rolls unless they are converted to use for “educational purposes,” right?

Used to be a Baskin Robbins back in the 80's-90's.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
 
Yes I would think so and I remember the Hershey's ice cream shop. The Chancellor wanted to clean up Marshall St and I guess I can't blame him. I see Jacob's has the Shirt World building up for sale as well, be interesting to see if the University caves in and buys him out.

Yeah he put it up for sale several months ago. That’s where that concept image of a 7 story mixed use building originated. I’d assume he’s fishing for an above market payday.
 

"Syracuse University recently spent $5.8 million to add a prominent location to its collection of properties in the Marshall Street business district near campus.

It brings SU’s total investment in property in the Marshall Street area in recent years to more than $90 million.

The latest purchase was the parcel at the northeast corner of Marshall Street and South Crouse Avenue. It’s listed in city property tax records as 737 S. Crouse Ave. but also known as 101 Marshall St.

The lot includes storefronts that recently housed a now-closed NBT Bank branch (at the corner), and a now-closed Jimmy Johns sandwich shop and the still-open Pita Pit restaurant (both facing Marshall Street)."

5HZAXVQRXFCEPAT77HP53CHRCE.jpg

They better not mess with Pita Pit!
 
It looks good to me. I have followed this from the beginning and see much more downtown upside than downside. I have seen all the plans.

The university and the hospital are going to buy up all that land, and greatly increase its value. Unfortunately, both are tax exempt institutions, so it won't help City Taxes.
 
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The university and the hospital are going to buy up all that land, and greatly increase its value. Unfortunately, both a tax exempt institutions, so it won't help City Taxes.
Aren’t the properties owned by SU that are leased to for-profit businesses subject to property taxes? I thought I read that the new mixed use buildings on the hill paid property taxes on a percentage basis, with the retail space square footage taxed and the student apartments exempt. I could be completely wrong on this.
 
Aren’t the properties owned by SU that are leased to for-profit businesses subject to property taxes? I thought I read that the new mixed use buildings on the hill paid property taxes on a percentage basis, with the retail space square footage taxed and the student apartments exempt. I could be completely wrong on this.

Yes, they only come off the tax rolls if they are used for “educational purposes.” If the university is just a landlord renting to Pita Pit, they are still paying taxes on that property.
 
I'd like to see a LOT more of this...

Syracuse landlord sued for lead paint violations, accused of poisoning 11 children

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (WSYR-TV) — Local, county and state leaders are suing a landlord of apartments in Syracuse, accusing him of hundreds of lead safety violations and poisoning 11 children who lived in his properties.

In the lawsuit filed Monday, the State Attorney General, Onondaga County and City of Syracuse together allege Todd Hobbs, owner of TLH Holdings LLC and TLH Properties LLC, for 413 violations at 19 different properties.

Hobbs owns at least 62 properties with at least 91 units in the Syracuse area, primarily rented by low-income families of color, the lawsuit states.

The lawsuit is demanding Hobbs pays thousands of dollars in penalties and restitution to the impacted families, inspect every unit on a regular basis and fix all unsafe lead-related exposures.

“By failing to properly address lead paint hazards, Todd Hobbs betrayed his tenants’ trust and put families’ health and well-being in danger,” said Attorney General Letitia James in a statement released to NewsChannel 9.

Syracuse Mayor Ben Walsh said, “We will not accept property owners profiting while children and families suffer from lead poisoning. With the help of Onondaga County and the state, we will keep going after dangerous landlords to protect our most vulnerable.”
 

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