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KellySyracuse said:
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The company, 422 James Street LLC, bought the building from the family of the late Russell Phelps, of Binghamton.

Public records show the limited liability company was formed on March 14, with its registered agent listed as Juan Contreras and its principal address in the city of Mount Vernon in Westchester County.

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The RP-5217, however, was signed by a Greg Purdy of Hopewell Junction.

I hope it isn't this Greg Purdy of Hopewell Junction: One year later: Charges against 12 mid-Hudson Jan. 6 suspects

These guys have allegedly been in contract for 18 months or so, and it was rumored last fall that some of their principals were, shall we say...well, basically the sorts of people who'd appear in that Times Union article.

Will be interesting to see how it all develops. It's a special property that's both a drain on the blocks around it and a necessary evil - where else can the POs check up on several dozen sex offenders all at the same address?
 
OttoMets said:
Will be interesting to see how it all develops. It's a special property that's both a drain on the blocks around it and a necessary evil - where else can the POs check up on several dozen sex offenders all at the same address?
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I've often thought the same thing but it's a shame because it's such a beautiful building on the outside. I can't imagine what the inside looks like though and wonder if there truly is only one bathroom on each floor still.
 
OttoMets said:
The RP-5217, however, was signed by a Greg Purdy of Hopewell Junction.

I hope it isn't this Greg Purdy of Hopewell Junction: One year later: Charges against 12 mid-Hudson Jan. 6 suspects

These guys have allegedly been in contract for 18 months or so, and it was rumored last fall that some of their principals were, shall we say...well, basically the sorts of people who'd appear in that Times Union article.

Will be interesting to see how it all develops. It's a special property that's both a drain on the blocks around it and a necessary evil - where else can the POs check up on several dozen sex offenders all at the same address?
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I used to live near there. I love that building. I mean, not the tenants, but that building is dope ah. Do they include any pics of the inside anywhere? It's gotta be awful, but still......

That Kasson Place down the street was pretty cool too.
 
KellySyracuse said:
I've often thought the same thing but it's a shame because it's such a beautiful building on the outside. I can't imagine what the inside looks like though and wonder if there truly is only one bathroom on each floor still.
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Where are all these inhabitants in the Vincent Apts, the James St Skyline apts, now Snowden will go during renovations is a huge question. Also will these renovations gentrify and price these complexes enough to permanently move these people out of the downtown area away from hospitals, services etc.
 
Ghost said:
I used to live near there. I love that building. I mean, not the tenants, but that building is dope ah. Do they include any pics of the inside anywhere? It's gotta be awful, but still...

That Kasson Place down the street was pretty cool too.
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there weren't any pictures of the inside included with the article and I don't see it posted for sale online either
 
Cheriehoop said:
Where are all these inhabitants in the Vincent Apts, the James St Skyline apts, now Snowden will go during renovations is a huge question. Also will these renovations gentrify and price these complexes enough to permanently move these people out of the downtown area away from hospitals, services etc.
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You make a good point. I would have to imagine the cost to completely renovate the Snowdon to make it habitable for anything other than what it is today would be quite expensive.
 
KellySyracuse said:
You make a good point. I would have to imagine the cost to completely renovate the Snowdon to make it habitable for anything other than what it is today would be quite expensive.
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What happens if a building is marked historic in Syracuse or the US? Maybe nobody knows, just curious. They do that in Ottawa all the time - then you have to renovate under specific guidelines.
 
KellySyracuse said:
I've often thought the same thing but it's a shame because it's such a beautiful building on the outside. I can't imagine what the inside looks like though and wonder if there truly is only one bathroom on each floor still.
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It's an odd mix of apartments and SROs. Definitely way more of the latter, but there are multiple shared bathrooms. I've never set foot in the place personally, but my staff who've been through are of the opinion that the bones are good and a lot of original finishes are in place.
 
Cheriehoop said:
Where are all these inhabitants in the Vincent Apts, the James St Skyline apts, now Snowden will go during renovations is a huge question. Also will these renovations gentrify and price these complexes enough to permanently move these people out of the downtown area away from hospitals, services etc.
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Throw in the number of people the Syracuse Housing Authority has to relocate for Blueprint 15 reconstruction. And of course the slow gobbling up of SROs and cheap working-class apartments around downtown over the last couple decades, which is what you touched on: lot of low-wage folks who work downtown or on the Hill and make the economy go but no longer have a close-in place to live. We were close to a crisis point before the Green situation popped up and it's way worse than that now.
 
Ghost said:
What happens if a building is marked historic in Syracuse or the US? Maybe nobody knows, just curious. They do that in Ottawa all the time - then you have to renovate under specific guidelines.
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Specific guidelines, historic tax credits (up to 50% of rehab costs), and likely some significant local abatements as well. Definitely doable, though it's still an uphill battle in third-tier NE markets, with everything very expensive but rents not as high as they'd need to be to make a project viable on its own.
 
This is great news for the neighborhood. I hope it's a first step to rezoning that part of N. Salina and Wolf St.

www.syracuse.com

Syracuse wins shutdown of strip club accused of creating a neighborhood nuisance

State Supreme Court Justice Rory McMahon ruled in favor of the city’s request to revoke the special use permit for Lookers Showclub.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com

"Syracuse, N.Y. — A judge ordered the closure of a long-operating strip club embroiled in litigation with the city of Syracuse.

State Supreme Court Justice Rory McMahon ruled from the bench Friday in favor of the city’s request to revoke the special use permit for Lookers Showclub, a strip club that has operated since 1992 at 1400 N. Salina St.

The city sued the club and its owner, Kevin Quinn, in March, claiming the business was violating the conditions of its permit by staying open too long and by operating on Sundays."
 
KellySyracuse said:
This is great news for the neighborhood. I hope it's a first step to rezoning that part of N. Salina and Wolf St.

www.syracuse.com

Syracuse wins shutdown of strip club accused of creating a neighborhood nuisance

State Supreme Court Justice Rory McMahon ruled in favor of the city’s request to revoke the special use permit for Lookers Showclub.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com

"Syracuse, N.Y. — A judge ordered the closure of a long-operating strip club embroiled in litigation with the city of Syracuse.

State Supreme Court Justice Rory McMahon ruled from the bench Friday in favor of the city’s request to revoke the special use permit for Lookers Showclub, a strip club that has operated since 1992 at 1400 N. Salina St.

The city sued the club and its owner, Kevin Quinn, in March, claiming the business was violating the conditions of its permit by staying open too long and by operating on Sundays."
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cancel culture
 
Where do you go now if you want to take your clothes off? :mad:

(Or watch others do so?) :cool:
 
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KellySyracuse said:
Looks interesting, I see they're right on the corner by the parking lot on Walton and open 7 days a week. I'll stop in there on a Sunday afternoon to check it out.
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My dream would be for that parking lot across the creek from there to be developed into something that included a brewery or bar of some kind with a deck/patio on the side overlooking the creek. Is that too much to ask for?
 
shandeezy7 said:
My dream would be for that parking lot across the creek from there to be developed into something that included a brewery or bar of some kind with a deck/patio on the side overlooking the creek. Is that too much to ask for?
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That would be lovely but probably too much to ask for
 

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