Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[KellySyracuse]

My dream would be for that parking lot across the creek from there to be developed into something that included a brewery or bar of some kind with a deck/patio on the side overlooking the creek. Is that too much to ask for?

That would be lovely but probably too much to ask for

 

[shandeezy7]

That would be lovely but probably too much to ask for

I wonder if Syracuse Parking Services would be more open to selling that lot to a developer now than maybe they would've been pre-pandemic?

 

[SWC75]

This was posted 3 months ago so I assume the "mild rebound" they refer to is Amazon and Micron. Is their impact really going to be 'mild'?

 

[KellySyracuse]

I wonder if Syracuse Parking Services would be more open to selling that lot to a developer now than maybe they would've been pre-pandemic?

That would be a better use of the property but I wonder it gets used frequently at night for parking. I guess they'd have to look at the parking revenue and decide if it's worth it.

 

[shandeezy7]

That would be a better use of the property but I wonder it gets used frequently at night for parking. I guess they'd have to look at the parking revenue and decide if it's worth it.

I remember the lot being half-filled at best even on busy weekend nights. One of the problems with these downtown parking lots is I believe their tax-assessed values are incredibly low, since they don't have structures on them and are more or less treated as vacant lots. So they are very low-maintenance and essentially are pure profit for their owners. Tough to get them to move off their cash cows.

 

[OttoMets]

Looks interesting, I see they're right on the corner by the parking lot on Walton and open 7 days a week. I'll stop in there on a Sunday afternoon to check it out.

I went to the soft opening last week. Nice space, but loud. Was pretty enjoyable. Very interesting watching the motley crew of CNY derelicts coming and going from the dispensary across the street.

 

[OttoMets]

I remember the lot being half-filled at best even on busy weekend nights. One of the problems with these downtown parking lots is I believe their tax-assessed values are incredibly low, since they don't have structures on them and are more or less treated as vacant lots. So they are very low-maintenance and essentially are pure profit for their owners. Tough to get them to move off their cash cows.

Ahem.

 

[KellySyracuse]

Volunteers help to restore a 90-year-old piece of Onondaga Lake history (photos)

The stone stairs at Jesuit Landing on the eastern shore of Onondaga Lake date back to the Great Depression. They were cleared by volunteers from National Grid.

www.syracuse.com

 

[shandeezy7]

Ahem.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I went to the soft opening last week. Nice space, but loud. Was pretty enjoyable. Very interesting watching the motley crew of CNY derelicts coming and going from the dispensary across the street.

 

[two3zone]

I went to the soft opening last week. Nice space, but loud. Was pretty enjoyable. Very interesting watching the motley crew of CNY derelicts coming and going from the dispensary across the street.

 

[KellySyracuse]

Story about Chedy Hampson, it's archived so it's not behind the paywall.

He sold his company for millions. Now he can play a new game in his old Syracuse neighborhood

"In August 2022, Hampson sold the company to the online auction site eBay for $295 million. Five months later, he announced he would leave the company.

Now, his Facebook bio says he works at “community-minded investor and philanthropist.”

Hampson calls what he is doing “sabbatical.” He is connecting with friends and family and circling in a world of Central New Yorkers who are already using their positions to leverage their business profits into community investments.

That includes Meg O’Connell, of the Allyn Foundation and Blueprint 15, the initiative to rebuild the neighborhood of outdated public housing near the Interstate 81 viaduct. It also includes Ryan and Leigh Ann Benz, who opened Oh My Darling restaurant and a 1920s-style “speakeasy” bar, The Fitz, on Salina Street. Benz is one of four partners redeveloping the old Shoppingtown Mall.

Hampson realizes he can’t do much alone. And he says he has a lot to learn about how neighborhoods declined and what can be done to bring them back."

 

[Fly Rodder]

Benz is one of four partners redeveloping the old Shoppingtown Mall.

As an east sider, I'm excite for this re-development to begin in earnest because I'm tired of driving past the ol' eyesore and watching nature slowly reclaim it*. That said, I hope they have some anchor tenants lined up because the death throes of Shoppingtown vomited up most of the retail and restaurants onto Erie Blvd.

*ETA: it should be used as a movie set for zombie/apocalypse scenes while it's rotting.

 

[shandeezy7]

 

[shandeezy7]

I don't get the pickleball craze, but cool nonetheless. Gotta be some of the more scenic courts out there, at least.

 

[KellySyracuse]

I don't get the pickleball craze, but cool nonetheless. Gotta be some of the more scenic courts out there, at least.

there are always people there playing whenever I venture there for my daily walk

 

[Ghost]

I don't get the pickleball craze, but cool nonetheless. Gotta be some of the more scenic courts out there, at least.

Cool and pickleball never belong near each other in a sentence.

 

[KellySyracuse]

As an east sider, I'm excite for this re-development to begin in earnest because I'm tired of driving past the ol' eyesore and watching nature slowly reclaim it*. That said, I hope they have some anchor tenants lined up because the death throes of Shoppingtown vomited up most of the retail and restaurants onto Erie Blvd.

*ETA: it should be used as a movie set for zombie/apocalypse scenes while it's rotting.

DeWitt to rezone ShoppingTown for dead mall’s $400 million redevelopment

"DeWitt officials are moving to rezone the dead ShoppingTown Mall to clear the way for its $400 million transformation into a village-style residential, retail, office and entertainment center.

The DeWitt Town Board is scheduled to hold a public hearing Monday on the new zoning and could vote on it following the hearing, Deputy Supervisor Kerry Mannion said. The hearing will be held at a regular meeting of the board, scheduled for 6 p.m. at DeWitt Town Hall.

Rendering shows what a redevelopment of the shuttered ShoppingTown mall in DeWitt into a mixed-use mega-complex named District East might look like."

 

[shandeezy7]

This is the first I'm hearing of this project. It's the Ward Wellington Ward-designed former home of Richmark Carpet & Linoleum on East Genesee Street:

Office of Strategic Workforce Development | Empire State Development

workforcedevelopment.ny.gov

Per this article today on Syracuse.com, the project was recently awarded an $85,000 grant from the Onondaga County Housing Initiative Project:

Former Syracuse school gets financial help to be turned into apartments

Grants announced this week come from a $10 million fund Onondaga County established in the wake of the Micron announcement to help meet housing needs.

www.syracuse.com

Edit: Looking at this listing from Sutton Real Estate, I do remember seeing these illustrations before:

https://www.showcase.com/1641-e-genesee-st-syracuse-ny-13210/16692358/

 

[OttoMets]

...

Rendering shows what a redevelopment of the shuttered ShoppingTown mall in DeWitt into a mixed-use mega-complex named District East might look like."

Lotta open space to generate no revenue and cost money to maintain. Build on it!

 

[KellySyracuse]

This is a turn of events

New owners vow to restore Syracuse’s infamous Snowdon apartments. Their first step? They moved in​

"Syracuse, N.Y. -- The new owners of the 121-year-old Snowdon Apartments say they have a long-term vision to bring the once-luxurious property back to its past glory but have no plans to evict its mostly indigent tenants.

Six young Hudson Valley real estate investors bought the Snowdon at 400 James St. for $3.4 million in August from the estate of the late Russell Phelps, who died in February at age 105. It was the first time in nearly half a century that the prominent -- and sometimes troubled -- property has changed hands...

Blakley and Gregory Purdy gave a tour of the property to a reporter and a photographer from syracuse.com | The Post-Standard. They said the group’s long-term plan is to do a major renovation of the interior to make its apartments market-rate units again.

However, they said they will only do that after acquiring another property where the Snowdon’s residents could move to. The plan will take years to accomplish, they acknowledge, adding there are no immediate plans to evict current tenants, who include registered sex offenders, convicts and people who rely on government subsidies."

 

[shandeezy7]

This is a turn of events

New owners vow to restore Syracuse’s infamous Snowdon apartments. Their first step? They moved in​

"Syracuse, N.Y. -- The new owners of the 121-year-old Snowdon Apartments say they have a long-term vision to bring the once-luxurious property back to its past glory but have no plans to evict its mostly indigent tenants.

Six young Hudson Valley real estate investors bought the Snowdon at 400 James St. for $3.4 million in August from the estate of the late Russell Phelps, who died in February at age 105. It was the first time in nearly half a century that the prominent -- and sometimes troubled -- property has changed hands...

Blakley and Gregory Purdy gave a tour of the property to a reporter and a photographer from syracuse.com | The Post-Standard. They said the group’s long-term plan is to do a major renovation of the interior to make its apartments market-rate units again.

However, they said they will only do that after acquiring another property where the Snowdon’s residents could move to. The plan will take years to accomplish, they acknowledge, adding there are no immediate plans to evict current tenants, who include registered sex offenders, convicts and people who rely on government subsidies."

You left out this little tidbit (or maybe it was added after you read the article):

Two of the new owners are brothers from Dutchess County who are facing federal charges in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.

One of those brothers, Gregory Purdy, 25, says he’s no longer concerned with politics. He and his brother, Matthew, 24, have pleaded not guilty to charges.

 

[KellySyracuse]

You left out this little tidbit (or maybe it was added after you read the article):

Two of the new owners are brothers from Dutchess County who are facing federal charges in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.

One of those brothers, Gregory Purdy, 25, says he’s no longer concerned with politics. He and his brother, Matthew, 24, have pleaded not guilty to charges.

Yeah, there is that too. I have to wonder what the end game is here and how this young group of folks came up with the capital to buy the building. Hoping for the best.

 

[KellySyracuse]

Opening on Salina St where Anything But Beer was most recently and also previously occupied by the new Clark's Ale House

A Peruvian-fusion restaurant, with a menu built by a celebrity chef, coming to downtown Syracuse

It will take a downtown location that has hosted many businesses over the years.

www.syracuse.com

"Syracuse, N.Y. — It will be mostly Peruvian, and a bit Japanese, with maybe some Mexican thrown in, too.

The new restaurant, called Inka’s, will take over a prominent space in downtown Syracuse and will have a “fusion” menu developed by a noteworthy celebrity chef, said its owner, Alejandro Gonzalez.

Inka’s is expected to open by February 2024 at 201 S. Salina St., said Gonzalez, who also owns Margarita’s Mexican Cantina in Armory Square.

The Inka’s menu is being put together by Flavio Solorzano, a Peruvian food expert, chef, culinary instructor and TV host. Gonzalez met Solorzano at a food conference on Long Island"

 

[JoeCollege]

Yeah, there is that too. I have to wonder what the end game is here and how this young group of folks came up with the capital to buy the building. Hoping for the best.

These guys also bought the former Davis College in Johnson City, NY (Binghamton) from Adam Weitzman.

Davis College buyers arrested for January 6th insurrection