Tough argument to make that we're a top 10 machine when we haven't spent even 1 week in the top 10 since our 1st year in the ACC which is now 8 years ago. Was also the last full season we didn't drop at least 13 games. Those numbers blow my mind. I've lived in 5 different states since that point.
The only reason we got the Camping World Bowl was because the Orange Bowl hosted one of the Final Four games or the Championship game, I can't remember the exact reason (somebody on the board help me). If it was out of the rotation that year we would have been in the Orange Bowl in 18. Our timing was just bad that year or we would have been Tier 1.
It's actually hard to turn around cross country. You're only as good as your fifth best runner. The top 5 score points in XC. If your fifth guy is real low or last you get hit with a lot of points. The lowest score in XC wins. Your 5th guy has to be good.
Not to speak for elimunelson , but we are absolutely top 10 in terms of popularity, brand, and fan support. He may have meant that.
Certainly agree in that aspect which makes almost 8 years of not being ranked there for even a single week that much worse.
Agreed. I know a segment of the board tried to convince itself that we are a "football school" after winning the Camping World Bowl, but are a basketball school in every sense of the word. And I say this as someone who likes football more than basketball.
Exactly how I feel. There's just a ceiling for us in football (and IMHO it just gets worse with NIL regardless of how you feel about it) that I don't think there is in basketball. That's assuming we make good choices on the things that are within our control in basketball(for example JB's successor)
Agreed, but they do not have to "turn around" cross country. Men were in the top 20 this year, 2nd in the ACC and have won 4 of the last 6 ACC titles. Women were in the top 30 this year at the NCAA championship race, I believe w/o their top runner. And recruiting continues to be excellent for both.
I was just generally speaking about how hard it is to turn around a XC program. I wasn't speaking specifically about SYR, I know we are good.
We’ll see how different it is with this staff. I have high hopes but will not put them too high.
Last night, for the sake of sanity, I flipped between our game and "He Got Game" on HBO. The role of money as an influencer is just plain depressing. And now it's legal! We can get blown out of the water in either sport if the bottom line is going to be buying a roster.
Neutral? With not many fans in the new dome this year it was rocking. Agree with the rest.
I don’t mean neutral in the sense of a home field advantage. I mean in recruiting. Football players don’t grow up dying to play in the Dome.
Seems like you are putting a lot of faith in coaches we really have a chance to evaluate yet.
This is our worst year since Reagan was Governor.
My concern is that when Coach does retire we go through a down period similar to North Carolina or what UCONN is just climbing out of.
