UCLA and Kentucky are, in my opinion (and this isn't really going out on a limb), 1 and 2 and it's not really close after that.
You're right, I keep forgetting about the "last 50 years" caveat. I was basing that more on all-time.I dunno, to me I think UNC and Duke are both right there also. Especially if we're just going by the last 50 years. Carolina has 16 final fours and 3 titles over that period. Duke has 15 and 4 National titles. Kentucky has "only" 10 final fours and 4 national titles.
I dunno, to me I think UNC and Duke are both right there also. Especially if we're just going by the last 50 years. Carolina has 16 final fours and 3 titles over that period. Duke has 15 and 4 National titles. Kentucky has "only" 10 final fours and 4 national titles.
What about Rutgers?
I think we beat Kentucky 4 of their 8 NC are pre 1962 and they had some leaner periods that will hurt them.
I did see their complete list, beyond the top 50, and Rutgers was on it. They ranked just ahead of Kirkland College for women, who interestingly enough didn't even have a varsity basketball team, but they did offer a half credit athletic class in basketball/badmitton that was usually half full of chubby unathletic girls. Rutgers just edged them out, which is pretty cool.It is top 50, not top 500.
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I'll go ahead and add up all our points...
Edit:
LOL never mind. Some of it's too confusing and vague. Here's some of the easier one's done.
Since '62.
Conference titles - (10) = 50
Conference tourney titles - (5) = 15
Number 1 seeds - (3) = 6
Tourney appearances - (34) = 34
Round of 32 losses - (11) = 33
Sweet 16 losses - (12) = 60
Elite 8 losses - (4) = 40
Final 4 loss - (1) = 15
Title losses - (2) = 40
Title win - (1) = 25
Win percentage = 112
That's 430 points right there...
in the last few years before the Big East, Syracuse was involved in the Eastern College Athletic Conference (ECAC). It wasn't a conference in the truest sense of the word - there was no regular season or even a set of round robin games, all the members were still independents, but it did have a post season tournament, the winner of which would get in the NCAA tournament. SU won 4 of 5 of those tournaments (74-75, 75-76, 76-77 and 78-79). I wonder if they will count as conference tournament titles?I'll go ahead and add up all our points...
Edit:
LOL never mind. Some of it's too confusing and vague. Here's some of the easier one's done.
Since '62.
Conference titles - (10) = 50
Conference tourney titles - (5) = 15
Number 1 seeds - (3) = 6
Tourney appearances - (34) = 34
Round of 32 losses - (11) = 33
Sweet 16 losses - (12) = 60
Elite 8 losses - (4) = 40
Final 4 loss - (1) = 15
Title losses - (2) = 40
Title win - (1) = 25
Win percentage = 112
That's 430 points right there...
Adding...
All-Americans:
Sherman Douglas
Billy Owens
DC
Wes Johnson
Hakim Warrick
Total = 15 points
Second Team AA:
Rudy Hackett
Wallace
Melo
Total = 6 points
Players taken in Top 10:
Melo
DC
Flynn
Johnson
Owens
Seikaly
Waiters
Total = 14 points
no way its pitt. how about arizona?Down to top 10,UCLA,North Carolina,Duke,Indiana,Kansas,Kentucky, 4 Big east schools Louisville,Uconn,Syracuse and surprising Pitt.
I think we have to be ahead of UConn
We have played for the NC 3 times the difference between loosing and winning is only 5pts in there scoring system.Agreed. We've been consistently more successful over the last 50 years but they've had higher highs than us recently, which probably gives them the edge. I think we should be ahead of Zona though.
We've played for it, but only won it once. UConn has won it more than we have. I think we are a historically better program but expect them to be ranked higher.We have played for the NC 3 times the difference between loosing and winning is only 5pts in there scoring system.
But that is only a net 10pts over us, we will score a ton more points than them in the 70s and early 80sWe've played for it, but only won it once. UConn has won it more than we have. I think we are a historically better program but expect them to be ranked higher.