Expectations

[Louie and Bouie]

ESPN efficiency ratings and FPI (Football Power Index) both take into account Strength of Schedule. Here are the respective ratings of the coaches since Marrone's year 1. Its the most objective measure I can find online to exemplify all of the above argument without the bias that leaks into year to year comparison. Except for 2012, we've basically stunk under all 3 coaches. I guess we can always argue who was worse by a bigger margin. Have at it.

Year------Efficiency Rating---------FPI
2010--------59-------------------------68
2011--------86-------------------------80
2012--------45-------------------------45
2013--------67-------------------------70
2014--------86-------------------------73
2015--------78-------------------------80
2016--------85-------------------------81
2017--------65-------------------------64

 

[SUskibum]

ESPN efficiency ratings and FPI (Football Power Index) both take into account Strength of Schedule. Here are the respective ratings of the coaches since Marrone's year 1. Its the most objective measure I can find online to exemplify all of the above argument without the bias that leaks into year to year comparison. Except for 2012, we've basically stunk under all 3 coaches. I guess we can always argue who was worse by a bigger margin. Have at it.

Year------Efficiency Rating---------FPI
2010--------59-------------------------68
2011--------86-------------------------80
2012--------45-------------------------45
2013--------67-------------------------70
2014--------86-------------------------73
2015--------78-------------------------80
2016--------85-------------------------81
2017--------65-------------------------64

Thanks for posting, this is great stuff.

I think it confirms what many have been saying that last year we were visibly better on average than the prior year even though the record was the same.

Also, 2012 was our best year regardless of sos (nobody was arguing otherwise)

What I hope it means is that if we take a similar jump this year that we did from 2011-2012 we may end up with an even better season than 2012 because we are improving and making the jump from a higher base (2017 better than 2011).

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[djorange1989]

ESPN efficiency ratings and FPI (Football Power Index) both take into account Strength of Schedule. Here are the respective ratings of the coaches since Marrone's year 1. Its the most objective measure I can find online to exemplify all of the above argument without the bias that leaks into year to year comparison. Except for 2012, we've basically stunk under all 3 coaches. I guess we can always argue who was worse by a bigger margin. Have at it.

Year------Efficiency Rating---------FPI
2010--------59-------------------------68
2011--------86-------------------------80
2012--------45-------------------------45
2013--------67-------------------------70
2014--------86-------------------------73
2015--------78-------------------------80
2016--------85-------------------------81
2017--------65-------------------------64

it is easy to forget how crappy that 2011 team was, but they really sucked. Should have lost to Toledo, barely beat a horrific Tulane team, barely beat FCS Rhode Island, choked against RU, dropped their last 5 games. ahh, the memories

 

[HRE Otto IV]

it is easy to forget how crappy that 2011 team was, but they really sucked. Should have lost to Toledo, barely beat a horrific Tulane team, barely beat FCS Rhode Island, choked against RU, dropped their last 5 games. ahh, the memories

You forgot the Wake game too. The WV game totally masked the poor season.

 

[GoSU96]

ESPN efficiency ratings and FPI (Football Power Index) both take into account Strength of Schedule. Here are the respective ratings of the coaches since Marrone's year 1. Its the most objective measure I can find online to exemplify all of the above argument without the bias that leaks into year to year comparison. Except for 2012, we've basically stunk under all 3 coaches. I guess we can always argue who was worse by a bigger margin. Have at it.

Year------Efficiency Rating---------FPI
2010--------59-------------------------68
2011--------86-------------------------80
2012--------45-------------------------45
2013--------67-------------------------70
2014--------86-------------------------73
2015--------78-------------------------80
2016--------85-------------------------81
2017--------65-------------------------64

Interesting stuff

Gerg averaged 93.25/89 his four years. Last two was 105/100, 102/99.

Marrone 69.75/70.5

Shafer 77/74.3

Babers 75/72.5

 

[djorange1989]

You forgot the Wake game too. The WV game totally masked the poor season.

thank you, yes, the opener, where we were getting smacked around until their QB got knocked out. another fortunate win, in OT.

 

[SoBristol]

You forgot the Wake game too. The WV game totally masked the poor season.

2011 ended on a long losing streak, with the defense plagued by injuries, notably in the secondary. In some ways similar to 2017 -- ending on a losing streak, injuries contributing.

Have to hope that 2018 sees a similar rebound to what Marrone achieved in 2012 -- when his starters stayed healthy, and he won games in November and won a bowl game.

 

[TheCusian]

ESPN efficiency ratings and FPI (Football Power Index) both take into account Strength of Schedule. Here are the respective ratings of the coaches since Marrone's year 1. Its the most objective measure I can find online to exemplify all of the above argument without the bias that leaks into year to year comparison. Except for 2012, we've basically stunk under all 3 coaches. I guess we can always argue who was worse by a bigger margin. Have at it.

Year------Efficiency Rating---------FPI
2010--------59-------------------------68
2011--------86-------------------------80
2012--------45-------------------------45
2013--------67-------------------------70
2014--------86-------------------------73
2015--------78-------------------------80
2016--------85-------------------------81
2017--------65-------------------------64

Nice work. Very interesting.

I’ll do some reading up on those methodologies (exciting!) - that 2010 number is wacky IMO. The rest make sense.

I’ve been ranking the best 3 seasons (of the last 4 coaches) like:

#3 Shafer’s 1st (2013)
#2 Baber’s 2nd (2017)
#1 Marrone’s 4th (2012)

(I’ll do some Bill C S&P+ digging for those that care about having more data points.)

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Nice work. Very interesting.

I’ll do some reading up on those methodologies (exciting!) - that 2010 number is wacky IMO. The rest make sense.

I’ve been ranking the best 3 seasons (of the last 4 coaches) like:

#3 Shafer’s 1st (2013)
#2 Baber’s 2nd (2017)
#1 Marrone’s 4th (2012)

(I’ll do some Bill C S&P+ digging for those that care about having more data points.)

Shafer’s first was so weird. We could have beaten Pitt and may have beaten PSU if the coaches went with Hunt from the get go. Yet we got blown out in four games.

 

[syrBossHogg]

 

[TheCusian]

Shafer’s first was so weird. We could have beaten Pitt and may have beaten PSU if the coaches went with Hunt from the get go. Yet we got blown out in four games.

Ugly but effective O. Decent D. Our conference peers were beaten down a bit. But FSU and Clemson were both great. And GaTech got in Shafer’s head.

 

[qdawgg]

Marrone wouldn’t have been 8-5 2nd year if sos was 8 th in the country. No ifs and or buts about it.

Nobody is saying he would have been, LOL.