Fire Autry

[ar inj]

All this hoo-ha!

I already know Red is gone. So does everyone else that might care and that includes Wildhack, any current coach that might interested in the job and their agent. There is nothing preventing people from talking or the conversations that have already occurred.

All in good time. It is almost February and it’s a short month. My only question is to decide if I go to any more games or stay home and watch Thin Man movies.

 

[atlanticuse]

was hoping we could get to 100 pages by Feb 1.

 

[kingtidge]

All in good time. It is almost February and it’s a short month...

 

[OHIORANGES]

Back in college I had a poster that said “Tired of the same old ?”
Well had to use the *, but you know what I meant. That’s how I feel about the season, the whole Red situation and frankly, most of the posts

 

[miamicuse]

Its so sad if I were Red I'd fire myself.

 

[Sherman20]

Agreed.

This next hire will reveal what the AD and University want our men's basketball program to be: a decently compensated but middling P4 program, or a team that can again contend for perennial top 25 status.

If they go cheap or inexperienced, it's the former.

And not that any hire is a sure thing, but I have limited trust in their capability / ability to get this hire right, after how badly they collectively botched the last hiring process.

Also bears mentioning that we're going to have a LOT of competition this offseason, as a lot of coaches are going to be let go from P4 programs. So getting a jump on the competition is going to be key.

RF, a couple of questions. First, re: this comment below: I always thought you were one of the many posters on here who insisted that Wildhack basically had to hire one of JB’s guys, Red or Gmac, in order to get him to finally retire? Or do you not believe that? I remember you beating the drum that we should go outside the program but I thought you figured this interim step was inevitable to get JB to go.
“I have limited trust in their capability / ability to get this hire right, after how badly they collectively botched the last hiring process.”

Second, what competition? Unless UNC parts ways with Hubert Davis, we could very well be the top school looking for a new head coach this offseason. There was a lot of change last offseason.
“Also bears mentioning that we're going to have a LOT of competition this offseason, as a lot of coaches are going to be let go from P4 programs. So getting a jump on the competition is going to be key.”
(Not that we shouldn’t try to get a jump on the competition.)

 

[richard levy]

In order to change you have to be able to (1) identify what needs to change, (2) develop the solution, and (3) implement it.

Red isn’t capable of any of those things.

From an article in The Athletic, about Indiana football success, from a P4 assistant coach. Applies to Autry


"it really puts coaching in perspective. Get the right guys you can coach who will buy into what you want them to do, and let them play.”

That was the takeaway for many coaches: Fundamentals are more important now because of how pieced-together teams are. And Indiana jumped out for its fundamentals."

 

[orangepassion]

Second, what competition? Unless UNC parts ways with Hubert Davis, we could very well be the top school looking for a new head coach this offseason. There was a lot of change last offseason.
“Also bears mentioning that we're going to have a LOT of competition this offseason, as a lot of coaches are going to be let go from P4 programs. So getting a jump on the competition is going to be key.”
(Not that we shouldn’t try to get a jump on the competition.)

FWIW I asked my friend who is a big UNC fan and follows them closely, what he thought they would do w/ Hubert Davis. It sounded like a similar situation as us, nice guy, but not necessarily a good HC and thought he'd be let go. However, when I mentioned Schertz, he didn't know who he was and felt UNC would go after a big name like Oats.

 

[MSOrange]

FWIW I asked my friend who is a big UNC fan and follows them closely, what he thought they would do w/ Hubert Davis. It sounded like a similar situation as us, nice guy, but not necessarily a good HC and thought he'd be let go. However, when I mentioned Schertz, he didn't know who he was and felt UNC would go after a big name like Oats.

Staying "inside the family" has also been a big deal with some UNC fans since Dean retired. Will be interesting to see if their fanbase has gotten over that.

 

[orangepassion]

Staying "inside the family" has also been a big deal with some UNC fans since Dean retired. Will be interesting to see if their fanbase has gotten over that.

True-He talked about that as well, as part of the dynamic that firing Davis would mean going out of the family, which would be difficult for some. He felt getting a big name would help them get past that.

 

[Newhouser]

FWIW I asked my friend who is a big UNC fan and follows them closely, what he thought they would do w/ Hubert Davis. It sounded like a similar situation as us, nice guy, but not necessarily a good HC and thought he'd be let go. However, when I mentioned Schertz, he didn't know who he was and felt UNC would go after a big name like Oats.

UNC will grab a bigger name than Schertz.

 

[Cusefan0307]

UNC will grab a bigger name than Schertz.

It will be interesting if they come open. UK thought they would get a great name too. They settled on about their 8th choice.

 

[cusefan88]

UNC will grab a bigger name than Schertz.

Byington from Vandy.

 

[Briancuse]

FWIW I asked my friend who is a big UNC fan and follows them closely, what he thought they would do w/ Hubert Davis. It sounded like a similar situation as us, nice guy, but not necessarily a good HC and thought he'd be let go. However, when I mentioned Schertz, he didn't know who he was and felt UNC would go after a big name like Oats.

Davis came within an eyelash of winning a title. Went to the tourney a couple of other times. And are a top 20 team this year. Id kill for that level of ineptitude.

 

[Sherman20]

FWIW I asked my friend who is a big UNC fan and follows them closely, what he thought they would do w/ Hubert Davis. It sounded like a similar situation as us, nice guy, but not necessarily a good HC and thought he'd be let go. However, when I mentioned Schertz, he didn't know who he was and felt UNC would go after a big name like Oats.

Thanks for the info. Yeah, that makes sense. UNC will go after a big name like Oats or one of the proven mid major guys now having P4 success like Byington at Vandy, McCasland at Texas Tech, McCollum at Iowa, etc.

 

[Blanko97]

Does Paulie always have a breakdown on the radio? Someone made one comment about him defending red and hes having an aneurism on orange nation lol

 

[Chip]

I just realized that the bottom 3 teams don't even make the ACC tournament. I had no idea.

Might as well let Red finish out the string and see if we can go out on bottom.

 

[elimunelson]

And if we do, three of the worst seasons in the past 50 years will have come in the last five seasons.

Difficult to wrap one's head around, after such a sustain. Of excellence under a Hall of Fame coach, lasting decades.

Precipitous decline.

But sure keep
Him around to
Finish off the damage.

Replace him now we may see what the talent looks like w another viewpoint. The greatest form of disenfectant is sunlight

 

[Cusefan0307]

But sure keep
Him around to
Finish off the damage.

Replace him now we may see what the talent looks like w another viewpoint. The greatest form of disenfectant is sunlight

He’s not going to be replaced until the end of the season. My buddy emailed Wildhack and said they would review everything with the basketball program at the end of the season.

 

[FloridaCuse]

He’s not going to be replaced until the end of the season. My buddy emailed Wildhack and said they would review everything with the basketball program at the end of the season.

In my experience ADJW is good at replying to emails sent to him but without really saying anything.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

In my experience ADJW is good at replying to emails sent to him but without really saying anything.

I emailed him and part of his reply was, "the results on the basketball court are not acceptable", "we should be a more consistent participant in the NCAA tournament" and "we should be competing in a high level in the ACC".

Yup, all of the above is true.

 

[CuseFan]

Did anyone else watch the Michigan-MSU game last night? They both had well drilled offenses with different sets and movements. We simply do not have any of that, except for the pick and roll.
Where are our offensive sets? More data supporting a coaching change.

 

[Ghost]

Did anyone else watch the Michigan-MSU game last night? They both had well drilled offenses with different sets and movements. We simply do not have any of that, except for the pick and roll.
Where are our offensive sets? More data supporting a coaching change.

Yeah, most games are like that. I do see some teams that look as clueless as us, but most decent teams don't dribble in place as much as us, or stand around, or refuse to come back to the ball when someone is in trouble cuz they're busy standing around. They seem to be a tad more diverse on offense certainly.

That being said, Gus Johnson, around the 12 minute mark, lost his mind like it was the final 30 seconds of the game for about 10 minutes. It was agonizing. He's a bit much quite often, but it was killing me. lol
It was right around when it was 52-50...he just yelled nonstop like every shot was the final shot of the game. He's ridiculous. Poor Raftery.

 

[Cuseloyal]

Did anyone else watch the Michigan-MSU game last night? They both had well drilled offenses with different sets and movements. We simply do not have any of that, except for the pick and roll.
Where are our offensive sets? More data supporting a coaching change.

I think we run more plays than people think but we are not clean in executing them most of the time. Usually too slow and sloppy. Which goes back to you know who….

 

[Blanko97]

Did anyone else watch the Michigan-MSU game last night? They both had well drilled offenses with different sets and movements. We simply do not have any of that, except for the pick and roll.
Where are our offensive sets? More data supporting a coaching change.

According to Paulie on Orange nation they have offensive sets and we’re all stupid for thinking they don’t.