FSU vs The ACC

[richmondcuse03]

ND has no meaningful vested interest in anything northeastern because the northeast for all things Major CFB is decidedly less than it was even in 1990, which was much less than it was in 1960. Just the Cincinnati TV market will produce at least as much football talent as all New England plus all NY state. And the only large groups of viewers of CFB living in those states are either ND or Penn St fans. And both are long accepting that their favorite CFB team very rarely play in their home areas.

Times have changed immensely for CFB. That means they have changed for ND. What ND truly needs from football independence (being able to boast about being too rich and powerful to need a conference in football is not a need) is not the same as those needs were in 1970. Today areas that have high concentrations of top recruits are the South, the Midwest, and CA. The areas that have the most passionate CFB fans are the South and midwest.

As South Bend is perfectly placed in the midwest close to IL, OH, and MI, ND has basically no needs to focus on anything midwestern because Home Games against any foes deliver that. So in terms of scheduling ND needs to play teams from and in the South and CA. But not the northeast. ND's needs are where the most D1 CFB recruits and the largest number and most passionate TV watching CFB fans live.

Producing talent and brand value / eyeballs in a streaming world are much different things. It's about money -- always.

ND gets a lot of eyeballs on TV in the northeast. I know it's not deemed the traditional hotbed, but even with lower market share, it's a huge population base. It's why ND schedules special games so their fans can attend and based on attendance, it seems to work. How many people will pay for a ND streaming network and where do they live? That's what matters. If you think ND has a small population of those fans in the northeast, then sure, they should ignore the northeast...but i bet ND has the numbers that say something vastly different.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Producing talent and brand value / eyeballs in a streaming world are much different things. It's about money -- always.

ND gets a lot of eyeballs on TV in the northeast. I know it's not deemed the traditional hotbed, but even with lower market share, it's a huge population base. It's why ND schedules special games so their fans can attend and based on attendance, it seems to work. How many people will pay for a ND streaming network and where do they live? That's what matters. If you think ND has a small population of those fans in the northeast, then sure, they should ignore the northeast...but i bet ND has the numbers that say something vastly different.

Highest number of Catholics is in the northeast. It’s pretty simple

 

[CuseIsGodsTeam]

ND wants to play games on both coasts and Texas both for recruitng (Texas) and the chance for alums and fans to go to the games. The largest concentrations of ND alums are on both coasts and Chicago, which contributes to trying to avoid joining the B1G.

ND has a ton of fans in the northeast and will continue to associate with northeast teams, a place that has been alleged in this thread as being dead to college football with nobody caring about it. The problem is the Northeast teams have been anemic for so long, not that no one cares about college football here. The argument about the lack of talent in the area is irrelevant with NIL, and frankly, there’s enough talent to produce some quality players for Northeast teams, especially from New Jersey.

At the end of the day Syracuse will remain at the big boy table.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

My point was they made the jump and had success even against us. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible … that was my only point.

We sunk below them, they did not rise to surpass us.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Shouldn't we be proactive and try and get some streaming revenue for and from our LAX programs now and get ahead of things?

Are you going to make people watch?

 

[wfschrec]

We sunk below them, they did not rise to surpass us.

6 of one half dozen of another they still had to win their other games. Both can be true but please enlighten me what was their record like vs BCS conferences prior to receiving the invite? I rest my case. 3 years prior they were humiliated 55-3 to by BC. The money used to hire Edsall and jump to the Big East made them more competitive.

 

[HtownOrange]

It may (and should) be against SC law for them to use state money for anything connected to athletics. The fact that Texas, Oklahoma, and the Pac-12 schools waited until the expiration of their respective GoRs to move should have been a signal to those dummies to wait, too. Texas and Oklahoma were extremely lucky that the Big XII decided to let them leave early in exchange for the heavy fee. The conference didn't have to do that.

The problem with ambulance chasers is that they believe they are practicing complex law. Bring that mindset into the business world, entertainment world, contracts world, etc., and it is a dangerous thing. Alford thought he was smarter than the thousands of highly skilled attorneys in these very fields and was simply going to bully and wow these same attorneys into submission.


.. and FSU gave Alford an extension...

 

[Hoo's That]

The problem with ambulance chasers is that they believe they are practicing complex law. Bring that mindset into the business world, entertainment world, contracts world, etc., and it is a dangerous thing. Alford thought he was smarter than the thousands of highly skilled attorneys in these very fields and was simply going to bully and wow these same attorneys into submission.


.. and FSU gave Alford an extension...

If Clemson and FSU are actually trying to get out of the ACC with all this frooforaw, they've got to be some of the stupidest people running sports administration. All they had to do was pick up the phone and call Austin, Norman, Seattle, LA (either school), or Eugene and they would have been told "Save your money; don't even think about it." If it was an attempt to get more money for doing well, they sure went about it in a very expensive way, spending a lot of money and a lot of goodwill. It's hard to imagine that they have any allies (even in secret) in what they're doing.