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FSU vs The ACC

dasher said:
And yet we had posters here saying that the ACC would and should settle.
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(i still think they will). It won't happen via mediation when the bid/ask is so absurdly wide.

at some point the worm will turn in terms of leverage here. At this juncture, the ACC has 95% of the leverage.

As the clock clicks closer to 2030, the ACC would be in their best interest to strike a deal vs get "nothing" for the inevitable exits. Also the longer they wait the longer other options come to the table too.

I just think at a point the rubicon will pass and a settlement will make sense. Maybe i'm completely wrong but that's how I see it going
 
elimunelson said:
(i still think they will). It won't happen via mediation when the bid/ask is so absurdly wide.

at some point the worm will turn in terms of leverage here. At this juncture, the ACC has 95% of the leverage.

As the clock clicks closer to 2030, the ACC would be in their best interest to strike a deal vs get "nothing" for the inevitable exits. Also the longer they wait the longer other options come to the table too.

I just think at a point the rubicon will pass and a settlement will make sense. Maybe i'm completely wrong but that's how I see it going
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They have to keep the conference together until after the Big 12 negotiates its new deal.
 
elimunelson said:
(i still think they will). It won't happen via mediation when the bid/ask is so absurdly wide.

at some point the worm will turn in terms of leverage here. At this juncture, the ACC has 95% of the leverage.

As the clock clicks closer to 2030, the ACC would be in their best interest to strike a deal vs get "nothing" for the inevitable exits. Also the longer they wait the longer other options come to the table too.

I just think at a point the rubicon will pass and a settlement will make sense. Maybe i'm completely wrong but that's how I see it going
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2030? That is a lifetime from now. We are talking about now. There is no way the league should settle anything now. Or any time soon.
 
elimunelson said:
(i still think they will). It won't happen via mediation when the bid/ask is so absurdly wide.

at some point the worm will turn in terms of leverage here. At this juncture, the ACC has 95% of the leverage.

As the clock clicks closer to 2030, the ACC would be in their best interest to strike a deal vs get "nothing" for the inevitable exits. Also the longer they wait the longer other options come to the table too.

I just think at a point the rubicon will pass and a settlement will make sense. Maybe i'm completely wrong but that's how I see it going
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We have less than zero idea what the college sports landscape will be like in 2030 right now, so the ACC will have that advantage for a while yet. Plus, cooler heads could prevail at $U and Klimpson and it could all go away as "a terrible misunderstanding."
 
elimunelson said:
(i still think they will). It won't happen via mediation when the bid/ask is so absurdly wide.

at some point the worm will turn in terms of leverage here. At this juncture, the ACC has 95% of the leverage.

As the clock clicks closer to 2030, the ACC would be in their best interest to strike a deal vs get "nothing" for the inevitable exits. Also the longer they wait the longer other options come to the table too.

I just think at a point the rubicon will pass and a settlement will make sense. Maybe i'm completely wrong but that's how I see it going
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Go Georgia Tech! Fan of Haynes King. He was so bad at A&M before he got injured. He has been so much better at GT. Good to see.
 
Hoo's That said:
We have less than zero idea what the college sports landscape will be like in 2030 right now, so the ACC will have that advantage for a while yet. Plus, cooler heads could prevail at $U and Klimpson and it could all go away as "a terrible misunderstanding."
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By 2030, I think both the B1G and SEC Big dogs will come to the realization that they need bottom feeders to beat up week in and week out. Either the two lose big dogs so they can rule their own conferences or the B1G and SEC expand to "bring in new markets", as we know it to mean, bring in new mid-tier and bottom feeders to increase the Big dogs win totals.
 
HtownOrange said:
By 2030, I think both the B1G and SEC Big dogs will come to the realization that they need bottom feeders to beat up week in and week out. Either the two lose big dogs so they can rule their own conferences or the B1G and SEC expand to "bring in new markets", as we know it to mean, bring in new mid-tier and bottom feeders to increase the Big dogs win totals.
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It's hard to say what it's going to going to happn because there are so many plausible possibilities. It seems like every day someone comes up with a new one that is just as likely and possible as what's been projected before. So far, nothing that has happened stands in the way of what I've been predicting, a breakaway from the NCAA by the bluebloods to form a league that doesn't require class attendance.
 
Hoo's That said:
It's hard to say what it's going to going to happn because there are so many plausible possibilities. It seems like every day someone comes up with a new one that is just as likely and possible as what's been projected before. So far, nothing that has happened stands in the way of what I've been predicting, a breakaway from the NCAA by the bluebloods to form a league that doesn't require class attendance.
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I believe most SEC teams would go that route. It’s the Michigan type public universities in the B1G that I see hold back. There is still much pride in being a student and your classmates ruling the gridiron and other sports. While Alabama, Auburn, the Mississippi schools and others are far less academically minded, the B1G loves the perception of strong academics AND athletics. I am not sure present donors are will8ng to forget their heritage.

The SEC would not skip a beat under your scenario as most of their history has been compiled by paying players. Who can tell which way the CFB world will turn?
 
elimunelson said:
(i still think they will). It won't happen via mediation when the bid/ask is so absurdly wide.

at some point the worm will turn in terms of leverage here. At this juncture, the ACC has 95% of the leverage.

As the clock clicks closer to 2030, the ACC would be in their best interest to strike a deal vs get "nothing" for the inevitable exits. Also the longer they wait the longer other options come to the table too.

I just think at a point the rubicon will pass and a settlement will make sense. Maybe i'm completely wrong but that's how I see it going
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No incentive for the ACC to settle. Even if they never settle FSU is on the hook for $150M regardless in 2036.

BTW, FSU extended Alford 4 extra years.
 
Hoo's That said:
It's hard to say what it's going to going to happn because there are so many plausible possibilities. It seems like every day someone comes up with a new one that is just as likely and possible as what's been projected before. So far, nothing that has happened stands in the way of what I've been predicting, a breakaway from the NCAA by the bluebloods to form a league that doesn't require class attendance.
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If that ever happens...time to strip tax exempt status from universities since it appears they want to run AAA teams for the NFL and NBA.
 
kcsu said:
Why would we add Uconn. They bring absolutely nothing to the table for football and we dont need them for bball.
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They bring a state with money and 3.4million people obsessed with UConn and would pay for a streaming service to watch. Big 12 with UConn, Arizona, Kansas, Houston and Baylor is by far the best conference in college basketball.

And it would be great for our fans to have a rivalry game we actually care about every year.

You guys are really short sighted about UConn. The Big 12 is positioned to be the 3rd conference standing and we better hope to get a lifeline. If/When the ACC falls apart and we see UConn safely in the Big 12 and Rutgers safely in the Big 10 and then we’ll be here lamenting where it all went wrong.

UConn should be in the ACC, and at the very least our admin should publicly and loudly advocate for them to be in the ACC so we might have a friendly advocate for us if we need a life raft.

Edit: their football is also only irrelevant because it’s not in a major conference. If the ACC blows up, our football will be just as irrelevant. UConn in the big 12 means it’s not irrelevant anymore.
 
HtownOrange said:
I believe most SEC teams would go that route. It’s the Michigan type public universities in the B1G that I see hold back. There is still much pride in being a student and your classmates ruling the gridiron and other sports. While Alabama, Auburn, the Mississippi schools and others are far less academically minded, the B1G loves the perception of strong academics AND athletics. I am not sure present donors are will8ng to forget their heritage.

The SEC would not skip a beat under your scenario as most of their history has been compiled by paying players. Who can tell which way the CFB world will turn?
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The SEC can join NASCAR as a regional entity that did got popular nationally, then lost their focus and became a regional interest only.
 
NKR1978 said:
They bring a state with money and 3.4million people obsessed with UConn and would pay for a streaming service to watch. Big 12 with UConn, Arizona, Kansas, Houston and Baylor is by far the best conference in college basketball.

And it would be great for our fans to have a rivalry game we actually care about every year.

You guys are really short sighted about UConn. The Big 12 is positioned to be the 3rd conference standing and we better hope to get a lifeline. If/When the ACC falls apart and we see UConn safely in the Big 12 and Rutgers safely in the Big 10 and then we’ll be here lamenting where it all went wrong.

UConn should be in the ACC, and at the very least our admin should publicly and loudly advocate for them to be in the ACC so we might have a friendly advocate for us if we need a life raft.

Edit: their football is also only irrelevant because it’s not in a major conference. If the ACC blows up, our football will be just as irrelevant. UConn in the big 12 means it’s not irrelevant anymore.
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UConn isnt joining the 12 for basketball. They are leveraging bball for Football. The ACC doesnt need another bball school as we are loaded. What we need are solid football schools in the event the two southern fools do leave
 
kcsu said:
UConn isnt joining the 12 for basketball. They are leveraging bball for Football. The ACC doesnt need another bball school as we are loaded. What we need are solid football schools in the event the two southern fools do leave
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Yeah, what conference needs the best program in modern college basketball? And arguably the best program in college basketball history, considering they’ve won six titles at a time when it’s harder than ever to do it. Those games with UConn against Syracuse, Duke, UNC, Louisville, etc. No one wants to watch that garbage.

Their games against Arizona, Kansas, Baylor, Houston…trash. Obviously there’s nothing there for the big 12. What suckers.
 
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