FSU vs The ACC

[TexanMark]

Everyone says this, but then why is there no discussion of Tulane?

They have been fantastic in football the last few years, better than many P4 and every G5 school, and they are never mentioned. It's because while football is a massive piece and probably the biggest, it's not the be all end all. UConn is a sports brand. Tulane is not.

Tulane is a niche player

LSU dominates Louisiana

If you want an academic first league they are a no brainer though

 

[kcsu]

Tulane is a niche player

LSU dominates Louisiana

If you want an academic first league they are a no brainer though

I like adding Southern and West Coast teams. Love Tulane but we need to some schools with huge alumi bases. Houston and San Diego State would be tops on my list

 

[Hoo's That]

From our board. Could only happen to one other deserving team.

 

[All4SU]

From our board. Could only happen to one other deserving team.

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Why aren’t all of the 0-0 teams listed alphabetically? (Not that that ever helps Syracuse.) I wonder what the process was.

 

[Hoo's That]

Why aren’t all of the 0-0 teams listed alphabetically? (Not that that ever helps Syracuse.) I wonder what the process was.

They should have been. It could be that the Tweeeter remembered them in that order.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

School	ACC	Pct.	Overall	Pct.	Home	Away	Neutral	Streak
Georgia Tech	1-0	1.000	1-0	1.000	0-0	0-0	1-0	W1
SMU	0-0	.000	1-0	1.000	0-0	1-0	0-0	W1
Boston College	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
California	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Clemson	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Duke	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Louisville	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Miami	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
NC State	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
North Carolina	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Pitt	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Stanford	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Syracuse	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Virginia	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Virginia Tech	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Wake Forest	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Florida State	0-1	.000	0-1	.000	0-0	0-0	0-1	L1

 

[All4SU]

School	ACC	Pct.	Overall	Pct.	Home	Away	Neutral	Streak
Georgia Tech	1-0	1.000	1-0	1.000	0-0	0-0	1-0	W1
SMU	0-0	.000	1-0	1.000	0-0	1-0	0-0	W1
Boston College	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
California	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Clemson	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Duke	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Louisville	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Miami	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
NC State	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
North Carolina	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Pitt	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Stanford	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Syracuse	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Virginia	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Virginia Tech	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Wake Forest	0-0	.000	0-0	.000	0-0	0-0	0-0
Florida State	0-1	.000	0-1	.000	0-0	0-0	0-1	L1

Better. Now can we rank them by where their team color/colors fall on the color spectrum? ROY-G-BIV. That will help considerably.

 

[SURules]

I love how the SEC schools are laughing at FSU. FSU better hope the B1G presidents vote yes as they are not getting into the SEC. I doubt there is enough votes in the B1G.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

It's not about revenue now. It's about what we do when FSU and Clemson leave. It seems like you're thinking the world in 2003 instead of 2033.

You start with the bolded sentence, but then every part of the post that follows is actually about revenue. The question is about whether or not adding UConn is profitable. It clearly is not, nor is it under a variety of "what if" market and realignment scenarios.

The Big 12 knows that it has to do something out of the box, or it is dead. This is sheer desperation, if the reporting is correct. I think the ACC and the Big 12 should merge and revive some logical regional divisions.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Better. Now can we rank them by where their team color/colors fall on the color spectrum? ROY-G-BIV. That will help considerably.

That's my fake email address.

RoyGBiv@yahoo.com

At least the one I use at the Fairgrounds to get all those free Chevy t-shirts.

 

[WoadBlue]

You start with the bolded sentence, but then every part of the post that follows is actually about revenue. The question is about whether or not adding UConn is profitable. It clearly is not, nor is it under a variety of "what if" market and realignment scenarios.

The Big 12 knows that it has to do something out of the box, or it is dead. This is sheer desperation, if the reporting is correct. I think the ACC and the Big 12 should merge and revive some logical regional divisions.

Yormark is a bit nuts but surely even he knows that UConn,because its football is 0 value, brings nothing to the Big 12. That means the only way I can accept that the Big 12 is serious about adding UConn is if Yormark expects the Big 12 to lose a number of more valuable football members, which then would lead to the Big 12 trying to rebrand as THE basketball league. If that is your plan, the UConn might even be necessary.

 

[All4SU]

That's my fake email address.

RoyGBiv@yahoo.com

At least the one I use at the Fairgrounds to get all those free Chevy t-shirts.

That’s funny. It’s my SyracuseFan.com password.

 

[TheCusian]

Yormark is a bit nuts but surely even he knows that UConn,because its football is 0 value, brings nothing to the Big 12. That means the only way I can accept that the Big 12 is serious about adding UConn is if Yormark expects the Big 12 to lose a number of more valuable football members, which then would lead to the Big 12 trying to rebrand as THE basketball league. If that is your plan, the UConn might even be necessary.

They are adding them for everything but football

 

[wfschrec]

Even if the Big 12 has the best bball league it still doesn't move the revenue formula vs adding good football schools.

You said the ACC was loaded for hoops … it isn’t, they is my point. Stop moving goal posts.

 

[Consigliere]

The Big 12 knows that it has to do something out of the box, or it is dead. This is sheer desperation, if the reporting is correct. I think the ACC and the Big 12 should merge and revive some logical regional divisions.

As does UConn. Losing $52MM a year is not sustainable, even for a state school. And that’s before Hurley’s new contract. Don’t understand football not joining until 2031 unless the B12 only took them by offering a greatly reduced or no payment until the new media rights deal is negotiated. Real roll of the dice by both sides.

 

[TexanMark]

They are adding them for everything but football

Football joins in '31 supposedly

 

[AngryOtto]

Football joins in '31 supposedly

When their tv contact ends I could see the acc taking a serval of their teams.

 

[baggerbob]

When their tv contact ends I could see the acc taking a serval of their teams.

The best thing for Fox, ESPN, ACC, and BIG 12 would be combine ACC and BIG 12, add Oregon St, Washington St, Uconn, Memphis, USF maybe a couple of others.
Divide them into regional divisions, and go from there. You have all sports covered year round streaming.
You avoid most lawsuits, can work through title 9.
Transportation costs for schools goes down. Students have less travel time.

 

[kcsu]

You said the ACC was loaded for hoops … it isn’t, they is my point. Stop moving goal posts.

Give me a break. dont just go by a year. If you dont realize that year in year out the ACC is a great basketball conference im not sure you are being honest.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

The best thing for Fox, ESPN, ACC, and BIG 12 would be combine ACC and BIG 12, add Oregon St, Washington St, Uconn, Memphis, USF maybe a couple of others.
Divide them into regional divisions, and go from there. You have all sports covered year round streaming.
You avoid most lawsuits, can work through title 9.
Transportation costs for schools goes down. Students have less travel time.

Why not keep them apart and have 4 vs 3 conferences? There’s 12 spots it’s fine to be third or fourth.

 

[HtownOrange]

From our board. Could only happen to one other deserving team.

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So, what you are saying is Syracuse is in 2nd place, a half-game out of first place. Sounds good to me.

 

[Hoo's That]

So, what you are saying is Syracuse is in 2nd place, a half-game out of first place. Sounds good to me.

Our board noted we were in the same position, tied for 2nd.

 

[wfschrec]

Give me a break. dont just go by a year. If you dont realize that year in year out the ACC is a great basketball conference im not sure you are being honest.

Yet it’s so loaded? Let’s be realistic and not emotional here. You don’t think adding UConn a back to back champ helps raise conference profile? You can hate them it’s ok, I don’t like them either but to insist the conf is so loaded they don’t help raise the overall conf profile is foolish based on recent history. The ACC isn’t the dominant conference of old … it used to be between the ACC and Big East, those days are gone.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Yet it’s so loaded? Let’s be realistic and not emotional here. You don’t think adding UConn a back to back champ helps raise conference profile? You can hate them it’s ok, I don’t like them either but to insist the conf is so loaded they don’t help raise the overall conf profile is foolish based on recent history. The ACC isn’t the dominant conference of old … it used to be between the ACC and Big East, those days are gone.

If this was all about hoops it might make sense but it’s about football and they bring next to nothing to the table. A lot of overlap between Syracuse and BC in terms of geography. I think there are a lot of other programs way higher on the list than UConn. I’m sure the conference and network have done their due diligence here.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Yet it’s so loaded? Let’s be realistic and not emotional here. You don’t think adding UConn a back to back champ helps raise conference profile? You can hate them it’s ok, I don’t like them either but to insist the conf is so loaded they don’t help raise the overall conf profile is foolish based on recent history. The ACC isn’t the dominant conference of old … it used to be between the ACC and Big East, those days are gone.

Irrelevant unless it significantly impacts the bottom line of the conference well into the future. It doesn't, and there aren't many scenarios out there in which it will.