Future Campus Framework Discussion

[Capt. Tuttle]

I think you're understating the appeal of facilities to faculty - they aren't just for the students. 'Employee' shouldn't be pejorative and if that's not part of the target audience, SU's not exercising its fiduciary responsibility to all of us to maintain the best institution it can. (Anecdotally, faculty members are in some ways more active users, since they're on campus 12 months a year and a lot of these people consistently use the gyms for competitive purposes 6 days a week. There's a decades-long tradition of strong competition in running and swimming among the faculty and there's no doubt in my mind that that strengthens the university by drawing in higher-quality faculty.)

This is one of a number of factors that affects quality of life and helps SU attract faculty in a highly competitive market. If SU can't accommodate them, you can bet there's some other school that will. If a regulation pool or an indoor 200-meter track can help sell a professor on SU, that should be taken into consideration. I guess her wording came off as arrogant, but it's true. SU suffers if it can't attract the best and brightest, both in student body and faculty/staff. In my opinion, standardized competitive athletic facilities offer more return on investment than bells and whistles do. For a professor with offers from both Purdue and Syracuse, proximity to a campus pool for lap swimming truly could be a tie-breaker. For a 1600-SAT student, I doubt "but they've got a lazy river" comes into play.

A lot of supposition on my part, I'll qualify that right now.

I would think proximity to NYC, DC, Boston, Philly vs Indianapolis might be a tipping point for an academic, rather than an on campus pool.

 

[NJCuse97]

I saw these pics of Northwesterns new practice facility, and wanted to share. NJCuse97 how sweet is this? Really hope the dome updates include natural light, it’s so energizing!

The Future of Northwestern Athletics (3/8/17)
It’s a beautiful and expensive student life master plan.

 

[NJCuse97]

Will Northwestern's $260 million lakefront facility reel in more talent?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Will Northwestern's $260 million lakefront facility reel in more talent?

Why couldn’t we put another practice facility on Onondaga lake next to the amp?

 

[rrlbees]

Why couldn’t we put another practice facility on Onondaga lake next to the amp?

you paying for it?

 

[FrancoPizza]

you paying for it?

It wasn't an ideal location anyway, especially if they opened those windows. I don't mind the lake smell, but it's not for everyone. And I'm not referring to the pollution which is mostly buried at this point. Some people just don't like the smell of a lake, especially when the algae kicks up.

 

[ForCuseSake]

It wasn't an ideal location anyway, especially if they opened those windows. I don't mind the lake smell, but it's not for everyone. And I'm not referring to the pollution which is mostly buried at this point. Some people just don't like the smell of a lake, especially when the algae kicks up.

I disagree. Onondaga Lake still smells like a used diaper filled with Indian food on a warm day.

I’ve spent time at a dozen Central & Western NY lakes (Finger Lakes, Cuba, Rushford, Conesus, Silver, Saranac, etc.) and none of them smelled remotely close to the funk that rolls off Onondaga Lake in the summer.

 

[Orangejet]

I disagree. Onondaga Lake still smells like a used diaper filled with Indian food on a warm day.

I’ve spent time at a dozen Central & Western NY lakes (Finger Lakes, Cuba, Rushford, Conesus, Silver, Saranac, etc.) and none of them smelled remotely close to the funk that rolls off Onondaga Lake in the summer.

Lake can't be that bad...is it?

 

[shandeezy7]

Lake can't be that bad...is it?

It really isn't that much worse than any stagnant, shallow lake, mostly due to algae buildup. Oneida Lake in certain spots has the same odor.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Lake can't be that bad...is it?

Haters gonna hate.

 

[rrlbees]

Clearing for the Veterans building as of yesterday.

 

[tipphill]

i suggested a few years ago that su buy the "drug house" mansion on skaneateles lake that was confiscated and auctioned off. it would have been a good property to have for su. figure out the use later.never happened

 

[kcsu]

Why couldn’t we put another practice facility on Onondaga lake next to the amp?

Because a rash and extra appendage might be considered an impermissible benefit.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Because a rash and extra appendage might be considered an impermissible benefit.

only if we self-report it.

 

[reedny]

In the vacuum created by the lack of a Dome/New Stadium announcement, it's hardly helpful to hear 5 experts shooting ideas from the hip about what SU might want to do, especially when their suggestions include better WiFi and a big "S" for a "sense of arrival and place". That doesn't solve the basic problem, which is that their "arrival" destination is the same old concrete revetment. Fans are going to expect more light, more open space, air conditioning, modern amenities and a new roof. I mean ... this has taken SOOOO long that nothing less than a new build or a drastic makeover is going to move the Dome public perception needle.

For potential Carrier Dome renovations, experts suggest better WiFi, avocado toast

 

[jr4750]

In the vacuum created by the lack of a Dome/New Stadium announcement, even more confusion with 5 experts shooting ideas from the hip about what SU might want to do. Suggestions include better WiFi and painting a big "S" somewhere for a "sense of arrival and place". Only problem is ... after "arriving" ... fans are going to expect more light, more open space, air conditioning, modern amenities and a new roof. I mean ... this has taken SOOOO long that nothing less than a new build or a drastic makeover is going to move the Dome public perception needle.

For potential Carrier Dome renovations, experts suggest better WiFi, avocado toast

That’s what’s so scary. As you say, the public is expecting a lot. Something that barely moves the needle will be embarrassing given what the school has generated expectation wise. Just curious who’s idea it was to make the annoucement of the $250mil renovation in the first place without having a solid commitment to that plan. Good lesson for PR students in how to mis-manage major news imo. They jumped the gun for sure.

 

[reedny]

That’s what’s so scary. As you say, the public is expecting a lot. Something that barely moves the needle will be embarrassing given what the school has generated expectation wise. Just curious who’s idea it was to make the annoucement of the $250mil renovation in the first place without having a solid commitment to that plan. Good lesson for PR students in how to mis-manage major news imo. They jumped the gun for sure.

I hope it's worth the wait. The longer they take the larger the expectations. Look at what Northwestern is doing with about the same (renovation) money (courtesy NJCuse97):

 

[rrlbees]

I hope it's worth the wait. The longer they take the larger the expectations. Look at what Northwestern is doing with about the same (renovation) money (courtesy NJCuse97):


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but its not northwestern's money for the most part. if su had the donations, they'd do the same.

 

[SoBeCuse]

In the vacuum created by the lack of a Dome/New Stadium announcement, it's hardly helpful to hear 5 experts shooting ideas from the hip about what SU might want to do, especially when their suggestions include better WiFi and a big "S" for a "sense of arrival and place". That doesn't solve the basic problem, which is that their "arrival" destination is the same old concrete revetment. Fans are going to expect more light, more open space, air conditioning, modern amenities and a new roof. I mean ... this has taken SOOOO long that nothing less than a new build or a drastic makeover is going to move the Dome public perception needle.

For potential Carrier Dome renovations, experts suggest better WiFi, avocado toast

What a goofy article and some genius suggestions from some of those rubes. More “S” and avocado toast? Lol, and I’m as big a foodie as there is. The more free flowing experience is a good idea and goes without saying.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Campus Community Invited to Arch Update Session

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Campus Community Invited to Arch Update Session
Tuesday, April 17, 2018, By Shannon Andre
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Barnes Center at The Arch

The Barnes family’s latest gift will support the creation of The Barnes Center at The Arch. As a result, the Archbold/Flanagan Gymnasium will be transformed into a holistic health, wellness and recreation complex.

Students, faculty and staff are invited to an update on the Archbold Gymnasium transformation on Thursday, April 26, from 4-5 p.m. in the Milton Room, fourth floor of the Whitman School of Management. The session will include a brief update on the construction efforts and details on health, wellness and recreation features within the building.

A key component of the University’s Campus Framework, the Archbold Gymnasium, which includes the Barnes Center at The Arch, will transform into a state-of-the-art health, wellness and recreation complex. The complex will house all the campus health and wellness services, including the Counseling Center, Office of Health Promotion, Health Services, Recreation Services and Student Assistance. The fully accessible facility will provide students, with access to convenient, coordinated health and wellness services that support students’ academic, social and emotional well-being.

American Sign Language (ASL) interpretation and Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) will be provided. Additional accommodation requests can be sent to studentexperience by April 20.

 

[Rocco]

This thread truly makes me dizzy. Just make a damn decision already.

 

[reedny]

but its not northwestern's money for the most part. if su had the donations, they'd do the same.

But SU has a huge amount of revenue .. one of the top revenue schools in the nation, with ACCN on the way. The FB team is the economic driver of the bus. They have the coach now, the program's on the upswing. Fans are interested. They have to get this done. A milktoast (literally) announcement isn't going to go down well.

 

[rrlbees]

But SU has a huge amount of revenue .. one of the top revenue schools in the nation, with ACCN on the way. The FB team is the economic driver of the bus. They have the coach now, the program's on the upswing. Fans are interested. They have to get this done. A milktoast (literally) announcement isn't going to go down well.

Even the most financially lucrative schools fundraise for athletic buildings. It’s just the way it is.

 

[AAM62]

But SU has a huge amount of revenue .. one of the top revenue schools in the nation, with ACCN on the way. The FB team is the economic driver of the bus. They have the coach now, the program's on the upswing. Fans are interested. They have to get this done. A milktoast (literally) announcement isn't going to go down well.

I find that hard to believe. Aren't they in the 30s-40s?

 

[shandeezy7]

But SU has a huge amount of revenue .. one of the top revenue schools in the nation, with ACCN on the way. The FB team is the economic driver of the bus. They have the coach now, the program's on the upswing. Fans are interested. They have to get this done. A milktoast (literally) announcement isn't going to go down well.

I'd say it will probably be more of a milk steak announcement