Future Campus Framework Presentation...

[GoSU96]

You're right.

Not many of them are elite.

Kids are impressed by big stadiums and big crowds.

Hopefully the renovation will make the new dome/stadium appealing enough to attract recruits the way the new Dome did.

The dome isn't going to be any smaller. It will actually look better to recruits.

 

[Ish88888]

This is exactly my point. Those of you clamoring for 44k forget that puts us with the likes of BC and Vandy. Small time. Baylor is probably the only exception because their facility is right by the harbor in a tropical locale.

Baylor in a tropical local? Lol . Um , baylor is in the middle of humid and hot texas, Dallas to be exact. Nothing tropical about baylor.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

They are going to need to generate a lot more revenue per seat to pay for this.

The $200M identified for the Dome is twice as much as UConn spent on the Rent. Stanford spent a about the same as UConn on a refurb that took it down to the studs and went from 85.5K to 50K.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_Stadium

"The capacity of the new stadium was set to be approximately 50,000 seats made by Ducharme Seating. The reduction in capacity was a strategic decision by Stanford's Athletics Program to boost season ticket sales and create a more intimate playing atmosphere without sacrificing the ability to host large world-class events, such as the FIFA World Cup in the future."

They still have cheap tickets available despite averaging capacity. Their family of 4 pack (2 adult/2 youth) is $115 per seat for the year. SU the last 3 seasons has averaged 37k so we would not be close enough to 40k to justify an increase. You need demand.

 

[DoubleDee]

It's been stated many times. Seating for football is under 50k currently. 40 some-odd thousand will not effect a program that has consistently not SOLD OUT even in its pinnacle years.

Someone on here once smartly said that it may not be the fan base as much as it is the Dome was built to big for this fan base.

 

[Millhouse]

They are going to need to generate a lot more revenue per seat to pay for this.

The $200M identified for the Dome is twice as much as UConn spent on the Rent. Stanford spent a about the same as UConn on a refurb that took it down to the studs and went from 85.5K to 50K.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_Stadium

"The capacity of the new stadium was set to be approximately 50,000 seats made by Ducharme Seating. The reduction in capacity was a strategic decision by Stanford's Athletics Program to boost season ticket sales and create a more intimate playing atmosphere without sacrificing the ability to host large world-class events, such as the FIFA World Cup in the future."

They can charge more if people value the new environment more. What they spend on the renovation is sunk. No sense in charging more than anyone will pay.

Hopefully it gets more people to travel

 

[TexanMark]

This is exactly my point. Those of you clamoring for 44k forget that puts us with the likes of BC and Vandy. Small time. Baylor is probably the only exception because their facility is right by the harbor in a tropical locale.

By Harbor you mean by a muddy river...also, Tropical Waco said no one ever.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

This is exactly my point. Those of you clamoring for 44k forget that puts us with the likes of BC and Vandy. Small time. Baylor is probably the only exception because their facility is right by the harbor in a tropical locale.

Um we already are with the likes of those schools in capacity. The only P5 schools under 55k besides those already listed are: Colorado, Indiana, Kansas, Kansas State, Maryland, Minnesota, Rutgers, and Stanford. Even if we added 10k in seating to the Dome, SU would still be in the bottom third of the P5 schools.

 

[Moontan]

Um , baylor is in ... Dallas to be exact.

Not exactly. Baylor is about the same distance from Dallas as it is to Austin and College Station. But, Baylor does have a beautiful, new, football stadium.

SMU is in Dallas. TCU is in nearby Ft. Worth.

Oh, and Baylor is winning a lot of games. A lot of exciting games. Dino should be bringing that same excitement to the Dome shortly.

 

[TexanMark]

You're right.

Not many of them are elite.

Kids are impressed by big stadiums and big crowds.

Hopefully the renovation will make the new dome/stadium appealing enough to attract recruits the way the new Dome did.

So Fenway Park doesn't impress...my feelings 40-45k done right will present a damn good visual on TV

 

[cuseguy]

Um we already are with the likes of those schools in capacity. The only P5 schools under 55k besides those already listed are: Colorado, Indiana, Kansas, Kansas State, Maryland, Minnesota, Rutgers, and Stanford. Even if we added 10k in seating to the Dome, SU would still be in the bottom third of the P5 schools.

I expected the seating capacity to drop 4-5,000.

But 8,000 is a real drop.

 

[cuseguy]

So Fenway Park doesn't impress...my feelings 40-45k done right will present a damn good visual on TV

Baseball stadiums are generally smaller.

But I have no doubt it will be nice and noisy.

 

[TexanMark]

Baseball stadiums are generally smaller.

But I have no doubt it will be nice and noisy.

Steve I agree I hope it stays at 44k+ but even at 40k it would still be decent. Long term trends suggest crowds decreasing due to time constraints and HD viewing...wait till 3D TV comes.

 

[retro44]

I expected the seating capacity to drop 4-5,000.

But 8,000 is a real drop.

I had heard a 2,000 drop in seats about a month ago from the Hall. That was for stadium seat conversions in the lower section,but nothing was set in stone other than the upper level seats

 

[GoSU96]

Baseball stadiums are generally smaller.

But I have no doubt it will be nice and noisy.

It's a TV show, volume seating is so 1920.

 

[cuseguy]

It's a TV show, volume seating is so 1920.

Again, not much of a factor other than when the big boys come to town.

I'm holding onto my seasons for now.

 

[Millhouse]

It's a TV show, volume seating is so 1920.

Agree.

A lot of schools will follow suit when it's their turn

 

[EastCoast2]

I'm pretty late to this conversation... are there any pictures/artist renditions/concept drawings of these upgrades?

 

[cuseguy]

I'm pretty late to this conversation... are there any pictures/artist renditions/concept drawings of these upgrades?

Coming out in June.

 

[Moontan]

I'm pretty late to this conversation... are there any pictures/artist renditions/concept drawings of these upgrades?

Actually, you're too early.

 

[reedny]

Not the best picture of the truss span but it does show the solid and light side converging in the center.

They should be able to throw up something like that in a few weeks.

 

[rrlbees]

I'm pretty late to this conversation... are there any pictures/artist renditions/concept drawings of these upgrades?

 

[EastCoast2]

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[sutomcat]

Luxury boxes ringing the top of the stadium is what i heard months ago from inside and would still seem to be in play. those aluminum ducts are gonzo. putting a new structural roof on the top allows for all of this.

just guessing here but I see a whole new structural steel shell being built on the outside around the existing concrete columns. this supports the new roof and widens the whole place.

I sit two rows from the top of the 302 now and due to the outstanding sightlines the dome has, the seats are great. If they put private boxes in up there, they would have top notch views for football. Not so much for basketball, although they would be good along the western end zone.

I am hoping they add a concourse all around the top of the third level, which would provide easy access to the new private boxes, and hopefully give people who sit near the top of the 300 sections another way to get to their seats/access bathrooms and concessions.

I am also hoping that as the new facility is designed, they take into account that SU might want to add seating capacity at some point in the future.

The seats could be added above the third level private boxes against the large expanse of open wall that will be added above the 300 sections. Or assuming the exterior walls get extended from where they are today, you could just continue the 300 section up to meet the new exterior wall, and add the private boxes at the top.

I would guess we could easily add another 10 or 20K to the capacity of the facility if demand merited it. Probably more...

 

[GoSU96]

I sit two rows from the top of the 302 now and due to the outstanding sightlines the dome has, the seats are great. If they put private boxes in up there, they would have top notch views for football. Not so much for basketball, although they would be good along the western end zone.

I am hoping they add a concourse all around the top of the third level, which would provide easy access to the new private boxes, and hopefully give people who sit near the top of the 300 sections another way to get to their seats/access bathrooms and concessions.

I am also hoping that as the new facility is designed, they take into account that SU might want to add seating capacity at some point in the future.

The seats could be added above the third level private boxes against the large expanse of open wall that will be added above the 300 sections. Or assuming the exterior walls get extended from where they are today, you could just continue the 300 section up to meet the new exterior wall, and add the private boxes at the top.

I would guess we could easily add another 10 or 20K to the capacity of the facility if demand merited it. Probably more...

If they were going to do that, better off adding pay by the game club seating.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I sit two rows from the top of the 302 now and due to the outstanding sightlines the dome has, the seats are great. If they put private boxes in up there, they would have top notch views for football. Not so much for basketball, although they would be good along the western end zone.

I am hoping they add a concourse all around the top of the third level, which would provide easy access to the new private boxes, and hopefully give people who sit near the top of the 300 sections another way to get to their seats/access bathrooms and concessions.

I am also hoping that as the new facility is designed, they take into account that SU might want to add seating capacity at some point in the future.

The seats could be added above the third level private boxes against the large expanse of open wall that will be added above the 300 sections. Or assuming the exterior walls get extended from where they are today, you could just continue the 300 section up to meet the new exterior wall, and add the private boxes at the top.

I would guess we could easily add another 10 or 20K to the capacity of the facility if demand merited it. Probably more...

Unfortunately if the new roof has the same footprint - just higher in elevation - I don't see how they can do any of the things you are suggesting. Sadly your ideas are all too practical and forward-thinking... which means they won't happen unless they have an extra $100M windfall.

If they converted the 200 level to box seats they would make a killing for basketball. If they lowered the court below grade they could recoup the seats that would otherwise be lost. The 100 would be the new 200, etc.