Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

[Brooky03]

Can I say something without judgement?

You promise.

Hodgson’s face is doing him zero favors.




You promised

 

[dollarbill44]

Everywhere I've been it's been set at the top.

While true, if the lower level employees don't buy in, the culture won't take root. The most successful managers have an ability to get the buy-in and transform.
This is also a bit simplistic, because it also depends on the type of organization and the incentives/disincentives at management's disposal. For example, the military is different from private corporations.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Can I say something without judgement?

You promise.

Hodgson’s face is doing him zero favors.




You promised

I can say the same for a lot of posts I'm reading today.

 

[CooperCuse]

Teams and companies take on the personality of who's in charge.

Not always. You also need buy-in, good followers, and a whole bunch of other factors to work in management’s favor. A few bad seeds in the lower ranks can be disruptive. To be clear, I’m not saying any of this applies to the basketball program.

 

[Newhouser]

Fran McCaffery won 3 regular season titles in MAAC, 3 conference tournament championships, and 2 NCAA tournament games before he was given a power conference job after coaching at Siena.

Came to Siena from UNC-Greensboro which I think is in the Southern Conference now and I assume better than the MAAC.

 

[BigNastyJon]

I want Hodgson. However, if GMAC does somehow end up as coach, I’m digging up my #3 jersey from middle school and hopping aboard the GERRY TRAIN baby!!

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Can I say something without judgement?

You promise.

Hodgson’s face is doing him zero favors.




You promised

I mean, we had one of the world’s most renowned nose pickers on the sidelines for 80 years. This ain’t a beauty contest

 

[phil77]

Yes, but this one is rational and has data and salient points to back it up.

I know we don’t like that here at Syracusefan, but it’s important.

but what about feelings... lol

 

[dwilmont44]

Dibs on starting the "Gerry McNamara should maybe be the next coach possibly" thread

 

[dollarbill44]

Are you kidding?

No. It actually makes more sense for him to not want the SU job right now. The current situation at SU is a potential minefield for a coach just getting started and experiencing success as a HC for the first time. He's got a good start at Siena and with another season or two of success, he can have a choice of good jobs in a couple years.
If he comes to SU, he will have to navigate a new Chancellor and a new AD, who will both likely be cutting their own teeth.
To add to that, if he has some early struggles, the stink of the last 7 years will be front and center with the fanbase who will once again be screaming that we should have hired outside the JB tree.

 

[tptcuse]

Almost all coaches get fired at some point unless they leave for another job. Everything else aside, if GMac was somehow hired (which he shouldn’t be) it would be even more heartbreaking firing him than this. This is way too risky from a basketball standpoint and from a personal standpoint. Time to move on.

 

[JustPherU]

You feeling lucky? I mean it’s one hell of a gamble hiring Gmac, but one hell of a reward if he gets the job done.Dome will be rocking like the old days if Gerry puts together a national contender, but there will be hell to pay if we get the same results as Red.Ive always been a gambler so I say let it ride on our boy Gerry.
With all that being said I bet they hire BH.

 

[Irishsecra1]

He’s also was promoted to assistant coach during Dion’s sophomore year. Not sure I’d say GMac was responsible for Dion’s performance in the NBA

Well considering Dion did very little his freshman year and virtually exploded his sophomore year, I think GMAC had some impact on his success.
Dion himself said he did - crap I assume his relationship with GMAC is probably why he went to watch Siena at the MAAC tournament. Unless he is a lover of Siena basketball.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The only way, and I do mean the only way, we should consider GMAC right now is if he willingly grows a Ted Lasso mustache.

That's it.

 

[Brooky03]

Almost all coaches get fired at some point unless they leave for another job. Everything else aside, if GMac was somehow hired (which he shouldn’t be) it would be even more heartbreaking firing him than this. This is way too risky from a basketball standpoint and from a personal standpoint. Time to move on.

Unless we have a winning P4 coach tee’d up, I don’t see significantly different risk profiles.

We either hire a midmajor coach who has turned losers to winners or a midmajor coach who has turned losers to winners. You don’t make these kinds of decisions with an eventual firing in mind, in the same way you don’t marry somebody with an eventual divorce in mind (or shouldn’t lol; who knows with this crowd).

 

[Bayside44]

how many thousand messages have you sent about hiring Hopkins over the last 2 weeks. Now after 1 game last night how many thousand more messages will you send about hiring GMac.

Do you see the ridiculousness of changing your opinion on a coach after 1 game right? We're already an unserious hoops program that botched a national search 3 years ago and now the same fools just want to hire a coach on vibes without a national search again.

Why not hire Speedy at Hofstra or any midmajor coach that punches a ticket winning their conference tourney?

Speedy cleared the decks here as much as anyone

 

[DoctahLexus]

Don’t worry, I’ll selectively forget about the tremendous seasons we had between 2009-2023, the final fours, and all guards sent to the NBA that GMAC helped develop.

I would love to hear you explain how he deserves credit for the good years/players/moments in those years and does not deserve blame for the bad years/players/moments in those years, which began to massively outweigh the good after 2016.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Honestly, I dont expect TPTB to hire GMAC this year.

But I do want them to realize how badly they ** up 3 years ago.

So damn lazy and arrogant.

Lets do no national search despite the fact Wildhack wanted it.
Lets not even consider Gerry despite the fact that JAB thinks he is the best in house candidate for the job.

Hopefully, whoever they hire, they will take the time to make sure it is a hire that will actually achieve success at SU because he can coach and inspire.

 

[721Comstock]

Honestly, I dont expect TPTB to hire GMAC this year.

But I do want them to realize how badly they ** up 3 years ago.

So damn lazy and arrogant.

Lets do no national search despite the fact Wildhack wanted it.
Lets not even consider Gerry despite the fact that JAB thinks he is the best in house candidate for the job.

Hopefully, whoever they hire, they will take the time to make sure it is a hire that will actually achieve success at SU because he can coach and inspire.

IF JAB *truly believed* GMac was a better future HC candidate than Red -

WHY did he promote Red to AHC when Hop left, and not Gerry??!!

JAB made that decision.
Not the AD.
Not the BOT.

The amount of revisionist history going on around here lately is astounding.

GMAC whiffed on like 90% of the high profile croots he was lead for.

And the ones he did manage to land were not a murderers row of hoops studs, for the most part.

I’m very happy for him that he’s having success at Siena.
And hope that continues for him.

But NOT at Syracuse anytime soon.
He’s just not ready yet.
He wasn’t then, and not now.

And neither was Red.
Clearly.

 

[IthacaMatt]

What does Gerry do well as a coach other than being a "winner"?

He has tutored some very good shooters.

 

[phil77]

Honestly, I dont expect TPTB to hire GMAC this year.

But I do want them to realize how badly they ** up 3 years ago.

So damn lazy and arrogant.

Lets do no national search despite the fact Wildhack wanted it.
Lets not even consider Gerry despite the fact that JAB thinks he is the best in house candidate for the job.

Hopefully, whoever they hire, they will take the time to make sure it is a hire that will actually achieve success at SU because he can coach and inspire.

Multiple things can be true at the same time:

-GMac looks to be a better head coach than Red
-If "we had to" stay in house 3 years ago, GMac should have been picked
-GMac shouldn't get the Syracuse job at this point in time, he has a lot more to prove, and should work his way up like normal coaches from the MAAC or have a decade-long success in that conference

 

[MSOrange]

IF JAB *truly believed* GMac was a better future HC candidate than Red -

WHY did he promote Red to AHC when Hop left, and not Gerry??!!

JAB made that decision.
Not the AD.
Not the BOT.

The amount of revisionist history going on around here lately is astounding.

GMAC whiffed on like 90% of the high profile croots he was lead for.

And the ones he did manage to land were not a murderers row of hoops studs, for the most part.

I’m very happy for him that he’s having success at Siena.
And hope that continues for him.

But NOT at Syracuse anytime soon.
He’s just not ready yet.
He wasn’t then, and not now.

And neither was Red.
Clearly.

Very well said!

Just to add on, I'm sorry if my emotions have gotten the best of me in this discussion and I've been a bit harsh. We all have strong feelings about the program and the best direction. I'm sure you're all fine people, I just wouldn't want to be business partners with some of you

 

[IthacaMatt]

Why? He's been a head coach for only a year longer than Gerry. Same amount of time as assistant coaches with various titles. The Sun Belt and the American conference aren't anything special. Gerry's team is dancing after a significant two year turnaround, first time in the tourney in sixteen years. I don't see how this Hodgson guy is the hands-on favorite over McNamara. Because he recruited for Nate Oats at Alabama? So what?

Because as an assistant, he was a lot more successful than Gerry was as an assistant.

 

[DoctahLexus]

IF JAB *truly believed* GMac was a better future HC candidate than Red -

WHY did he promote Red to AHC when Hop left, and not Gerry??!!

JAB made that decision.
Not the AD.
Not the BOT.

The amount of revisionist history going on around here lately is astounding.

GMAC whiffed on like 90% of the high profile croots he was lead for.

And the ones he did manage to land were not a murderers row of hoops studs, for the most part.

I’m very happy for him that he’s having success at Siena.
And hope that continues for him.

But NOT at Syracuse anytime soon.
He’s just not ready yet.
He wasn’t then, and not now.

And neither was Red.
Clearly.

I hate that this is making some of us talk so negative about an all time cuse legend who could be at the start of a successful head coaching career, especially after what should be nothing but a great moment last night, but it has to be said to shut down the people who legitimately want to hire him for next year. Nothing but love for GMac, but if people want to hire him for next year they need this dose of reality.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Interested in what people think about Siena having the highest NIL in the MAAC? Obviously GMac can coach but he also had more talent on his team than the rest of the MAAC. I believe Doty was the highest paid player in their league but someone can correct. 3rd place in the league was prob underperforming but they got it done in the tourney which is all that matters for them.

Granted BH also has one of the highest NIL's in the AAC behind Memphis and around what Tulane is.

Right now if you go by NIL they are both doing what they are expected to do but are they really overperforming if you just look at the dollars they're spending.

I've been following Will Wade and NCSt closely because they were supposed to the hot new team for ACC rebuilds. I think most would say Will Wade was the best incoming coach in the ACC with boatloads of HC experience and they gave him a bank with 4th in ACC NIL spend. Not sure anyone has been paying attention, they are tourney locks but here they sit at 19-12, likely one of the last teams in. On paper I would say NCSt and Wade heavily underperformed.

When BH or Gmac get to the ACC they are going to have to do alot more with alot less. They aren't going to have the most money or talent in the league by a longshot.