Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

[Brooky03]

Have you ever worked at a job anywhere? This is ludicrous.
At what job do you decide how long you keep the job??
Unless you own it, literally no one does that.



And this sounds awfully naive. Kent had an agreement to let him leave and save face, and HE REFUSED TO GO.

Years later, after many bad seasons, Boeheim bitched in the press, "I DECIDE when I go, nobody else."

Did you forget that?

He was wiling to ruin his reputation and burn down the program so he could coach his sons, and that's exactly what he did,

Kent was afraid of the negative publicity of firing Boeheim. Kent is a little girl not a leader,

What? Did you miss the “and?” You work a job as long as you want AND are allowed to. That’s literally what having a job is.

To the second point, it sounds like your beef should be with Kent, no? JB didn’t hold the program hostage. Fans would have been ultimately ok with a firing around 2019. You can’t be a CEO or Chancellor and get bullied by Directors or sports ball coaches.

 

[Cuse1055]

Who thinks BH is even interested in coming to SU?

He has been for a very long time.

 

[swish7]

Watch USF play, watch tape of his team at Ark state. Listen to the interviews and look back to the teams Oats had with BH at his side. Hes been on an upward trajectory without setbacks for a while both in recruiting and results for a longer period of time.

Then look at the metrics multiple folks have shared in this thread. There is a very solid case behind him as a coach and recruiter. Also he’s been part of multiple teams that he helped build up to meet new heights consistently going from an assistant to now a HC.

You can’t look at all that and not come away with a number of reasons he’s a great option unless you are firmly biased against someone who isn’t from the SU family or someone who has been a P4 head coach for a decade already like a Chris Mack for example. Add onto the fact that pulling in a guy like the Iowa state coach would be very expensive and even someone like Mack has some flaws even with his resume.

Ok, thx. Haven't seen them play. Did look at his W/L record and wasn't that impressed. Will look at some highlights.

 

[Brooky03]

Unless you've suddenly become VERY stupid, you should see that Boeheim is trying to influence the decision using his position in the press.

If nothing else, it's a conflict of interest. As you said, he's not SUPPOSED to have any part in the selection process.

BUT HE'S TRYING TO. You do understand that, right?

Ok, then let him try to influence it. Try. Who gives a crap? It’s not his decision and decision makers probably won’t be listening to him. To put the onus on him to not talk about whatever he wants is weird.

There’s no conflict of interest about an old guy with an honorary position saying some schools like his friend as head coach and he does too.

 

[IthacaMatt]

To the second point, it sounds like your beef should be with Kent, no? JB didn’t hold the program hostage.

This statement is insane.
You realize why Mike left, right?

 

[PauliePeppas]

Who thinks BH is even interested in coming to SU?

Bryan Hodgson for starters

 

[swish7]

Sure, no problem!

Buffalo
-Turned around Buffalo as Nate oats top assistant
*4 NCAA tournaments in 6 years
*2 winningest seasons in program history
-Recruited guys like CJ Messinberg, Nick Perkins, Wes Clark & Jeenathan Williams (buffalos only top-150 player in school history), Dantay carauthers
-ranked top 15 in first and only time in school history
-ranked for 20 straight weeks after being ranked for first time in school history
-59-13 was best 2 year stretch in school history


Alabama
-As Nate oats top assistant at Alabama was lead recruiter in 4 straight top-15 national classes
-3 SEC championships
-3 straight sweet 16s
-Lead recruiter for Josh primo, Brandon miller, Kira Lewis jr, Noah clowney and Jaden Bradley
-Ranked as #2 recruiter in country by 247
-received commitments four 5-stars and three McDonald’s all Americans
-92-41 record while at alabama

Arkansas State
-only 2 seasons at Arkansas state were their 2 win heat seasons in program history, first 20-win season in a decade his first year
-20 loss team to a 20 win team his first year
-first back to back 20 win seasons in school history
-received two top-100 commits to ARKANSAS STATE
-first conference championship in 30 years
-program record in PPG, pts, FGs
-first postseason appearance in over 40 years
-had the 35th best recruiting class in the country… again at ARKANSAS STATE
-45-28 record is best two year stretch in school history
-Highest point differential in school history
-Highest SRS in school history

South Florida
-1 season at South Florida
-1 win away from most in program history
-closing in on first tournament appearance in 15 years
-AAC conference champions, 2nd time in school history
-AAC coach of the year
-Most PPG in school history
-Largest point differential in school history
-Highest SRS in school history


-30 Under 30 selection by NABC in 2016
-Spent a decade under Nate Oats as top recruiting assistant
-Nicknamed "The Shark" because if you see him after your guy you're dead meat
-2 conference POY
-6 NBA First Rounders
-20 All Conference Selections
-Named Top 25 Up and coming coaches
-Named Top 25 Most Impactful assistants in the country


He is so obviously the choice lol

OK, that's more impressive than the raw WL record.

Seems a bit like Fran Brown, then..

 

[IthacaMatt]

Ok, then let him try to influence it. Who gives a crap? It’s not his decision and decision makers probably won’t be listening to him. To put the onus on him to not talk about whatever he wants is weird.

Does everybody have a job on TV to try to sway public opinion?
Does everyone have his standing in relation to the program?
If you want his input, make him part of the process.
They DIDN'T, and so he should shut the hell up.

 

[Brooky03]

This statement is insane.
You realize why Mike left, right?

Mike left because he wanted to be a head coach.

Mike wasn’t a great head coach. So… thank you, Jim?

 

[ScriptCuse]

OK, that's more impressive than the raw WL record.

Seems a bit like Fran Brown, then..

Luckily I’m a nerd and love to deep dive into this stuff when I have the free time

 

[Brooky03]

Does everybody have a job on TV to try to sway public opinion?
Does everyone have his standing in relation to the program?
If you want his input, make him part of the process.
They DIDN'T, and so he should shut the hell up.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Sell me on Hodgson. I don't get it. At all.

I'll simplify.

Go do a quick google search the programs that are looking to hire Schertz, Hodgson, Gmac and then Hopkins.

I've put them in order. Serious programs are looking at Schertz and Hodgson, Gmac is getting calls from BC and GT, and Hopkins well i'm not sure who is calling him except he's making promises to get bankrolled by some millionaires.

When you get outside of CNY and look nationally you start seeing the difference in prospects the coaches have.

We're all huge Gmac fans. I can still say that I think down the road he would be a great coach here not but not this year. Bringing us out of a tailspin in the ACC is goign to take new blood.

 

[Starman]

That’s not how that would work and you know it.

JB isn’t sharing insider information. He’s the equivalent of the mailroom clerk saying, “Idk, I think Brad would be a cool CEO.”

He’s not in a position of power and not part of the selection process.

If the ex ceo of Xbox was still employed by Microsoft, and during an interview said that xbox just doesn't have the resources to put out a product that would compete with Playstation, I'd expect that person to be fired.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Unless you've suddenly become VERY stupid, you should see that Boeheim is trying to influence the decision using his position in the press.

If nothing else, it's a conflict of interest. As you said, he's not SUPPOSED to have any part in the selection process.

BUT HE'S TRYING TO. You do understand that, right?

You’re an attorney. You know it’s not a conflict of interest. It would only be a conflict if JB financially benefited from it, which I don’t think is the case.

 

[RedtheGOB]

I bet if Hodgson is really good , he leaves in 3-4 years and Gerry would be a top candidate.

Exactly, This crazy talk about how we have to get him now after one game. Cuz he won a MaaC tourney and punched a ticket. Also sidenote while having the largest NIL in the conference and the best player.

Hell if Hodgson had a heart attack and died on the court next season we could call Gmac and line him up the next day. Sure he might cost a little more but he would answer the call.

Gmac and Melo were a year younger than me at Cuse we ain't that old yet. There's still plenty of time.

Also for what it's worth I think it might be time to let a new coach start some new relationships with former players the same way Fran is. Get in and get a staff and guys setup then bring in the old players to get involved. It shouldn't be this quid pro quo thing which seems like a game Hopkins is playing.

 

[DilemaCuse]

how so? top four teams in the AAC this season ranked by SRS (simple basic efficiency metric based on offense and defense relative to the season):

This season​

USF - 12.9 (regular season champ)​

Tulane - 11.9​

Wichita - 8.7​

Memphis - 4.6​

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Last Season:​

Memphis - 12.1​

North Texas - 7.7 (had Ross Hodge who jumped to WV this season)​

UAB - 4.7 (had Yaxel Lendeborg and still were meh)​

FAU - 3.7 (had Matas Vokietaitis who starts at Texas)​

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MAAC this season (yes those are negatives)​

Marist - -3.4​

Merrimack - -4 (regular season champ)​

Siena - -4.1 (won tourney)​

Quinni - -5.3​

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MAAC last season (yes those are negatives)​

Merrimack - -4.6​

Quinni - -5.9 (regular season champ)​

Siena - -7.5​

Manhattan - -7.7​

St. Mary's - -7.9 (won tourney)​

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Not that I expect this to change any minds and I'm just yelling into the void, but it certainly looks like the AAC is tougher this year and the MAAC is a bunch of not good teams with this season being slightly better. And to reiterate, this is the best team by the metrics in USF's history and Hodgson could set the record for most wins this season with 2 more. Gerry has Siena's 9th best season by wins and it's their 32nd best season by SRS.

 

[SuFTW]

Don’t care what was asked, don’t need to listen to form my opinion. Because even if the question was a sledgehammer “Do you think Gerry will get bigger offers this offseason”? - the correct answer would be “I don’t know, I was never in the business of hiring coach because I was too busy being one. But Gerry’s a great coach, I expect he’ll have continued success and will get bigger opportunities - if not this year then soon”.

I realize there is absolutely no way JB would ever take that approach. But that’s why I would be thrilled if he would just stop giving interviews.

Not sure why you think Boeheim should have no opinion on Gerry getting bigger offers.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Change the names and this could be the Scott Frost thread with hodgson being Frost

I don't follow, Frost was a Nebraska alum who went home and flamed out to everyone's surprise. Change the name Hodgson with McNamara and then now you've got it.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Out on the whole Hurley family. If Dan wins 10 championships and decides Syracuse is the only place for him and he’ll coach for $10 a year… out.

In fairness, I had no idea Bobby Hurley was that terrible for so long at Arizona State.

 

[sufan59]

I bet if Hodgson is really good , he leaves in 3-4 years and Gerry would be a top candidate.

That’s one way to look at it, but if Syracuse is really good again. They’ll be making A LOT of money. Probably very few if any jobs can outpace when that happens. See UConn with Dan Hurley.

 

[Brooky03]

If the ex ceo of Xbox was still employed by Microsoft, and during an interview said that xbox just doesn't have the resources to put out a product that would compete with Playstation, I'd expect that person to be fired.

So ‘fire’ him from his honorary made up position with no job requirements then.

What are we even talking about here?

 

[DilemaCuse]

If we hire BH, I refuse to refer to him as The Shark.
Seems so childish.
Good ole Otto the Orange is enough character names for me.

. Get ready for the sharknado Buddy!

 

[Starman]

So ‘fire’ him from his honorary made up position with no job requirements then.

What are we even talking about here?

If he's doing something that hurts the program, then you need to cut him loose. Especially if he's not even doing anything in his honorary made up position.

 

[heresjohnny88]

Not sure if this was posted earlier. No idea where this guy is getting his info.

 

[DilemaCuse]

I think we also underestimate the impact that Gerry leaving had on our program. Red’s worst 3 seasons were after Gerry left.