Honest question

[capeorange]

70 % talent
30% coaching

When you don't have talent, that ratio changes dramatically and the results are glaring.

 

[richard levy]

Effort and organization is enough to improve and win games and help (not totally) offset talent gap.

My point is to reinforce the above statement by Newhouser. I wish SU fans could watch Vanderbilt (I'm an alum) this season. After 8+ years of worse than mediocrity, they have a new coach this year, Mark Byington, who they hired from JMU. He flipped the entire roster, except for one, (who dosen't play), lost his one legitimate post player at the beginning of the season. Mediocre SOS, 117, SU is 29. NET of 45, SU is 159. There is not one player who will sniff the NBA, but they play 9-10, motion offense and hustle their asses off on D. 14-2, 2-2 in conference, albeit, with the toughest teams in the best conference still to be played. Entertaining and productive style of play.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

My point is to reinforce the above statement by Newhouser. I wish SU fans could watch Vanderbilt (I'm an alum) this season. After 8+ years of worse than mediocrity, they have a new coach this year, Mark Byington, who they hired from JMU. He flipped the entire roster, except for one, (who dosen't play), lost his one legitimate post player at the beginning of the season. Mediocre SOS, 117, SU is 29. NET of 45, SU is 159. There is not one player who will sniff the NBA, but they play 9-10, motion offense and hustle their asses off on D. 14-2, 2-2 in conference, albeit, with the toughest teams in the best conference still to be played. Entertaining and productive style of play.

And that's exactly what I think most fans want to see. Even if it doesn't translate to wins and an immediate stellar season, it would be great to just see signs of life.

Signs of a plan.

An idea.

Anything.

 

[PoppyHart]

70 % talent
30% coaching

So it's dropped from 80% since January 2nd?

Coaching matters.

 

[Nicknack]

What I don't get, in today's age of NIL and the portal, how any player would think it's a good idea to play less hard or to sort of give up. I can sort of understand it back in the day where a player would spend 4 years with the same team. However, now, if things are going well and a player opts to transfer, how they're playing now is caught on video to show potential new teams. A player will be held responsible (to a certain extent). Let me be clear... I'm not saying anyone on our team is doing that but there are many on this board who have implied it.

 

[Cheriehoop]

I said most efficient. I'd argue also his best, but I can see the case for last year.

At TCU, after they made him lose 70 pounds vs last year:
PER: 20.1 vs 16.4
BPM: 6.2 vs 2.4

You want to argue his best year was last year? I won't agree, but I can see the argument. But he also played with three NBA players that made his life easy street.

But his most efficient year (and, again, this is where I think we should be pointing to for efficiency = best, imo) is his sophomore year after they made him lose 70 pounds.

So either Red needed to get three NBA draft picks (including one guy that is like top five in the NBA rookie of the year rankings now) for this year or make Eddie get in shape. He went 0-2 on both of those.

Nuance - the years are pretty equivalent - no argument here. I don’t see where there was a huge efficiency jump from a weight loss at TCU though. I don’t think Eddie has been the biggest issue here- he’s the same player he was at Colorado etc that he has been here. I would imagine a team’s ability to pass efficiently to an interior player is key regardless of the program. This team hasn’t proven yet to be a good passing team.