I think the following will come with Gerry

[cliftonparksufan]

I wonder what the order is. Alphabetical or by jersey number? Does GMAC do it by priority?

Does Lobdell get like 5 minutes and gets told, yes, we want you back. You are a great walk on. Keep working hard and keep having your dad support the program.

 

[Blanko97]

I could see Doty getting $500K @ SU.

I could see the big kid getting $250-350K.

Freshman guard will probably be in the $50-100K range.

I will say this - that's pretty good value for three spots. Likely less than $1M for all of them.

That would leave $10M+ for the remaining 10-12 players.

Folefac is not worth 250k

 

[FrancoPizza]

$$$$$$$

I get that but portal kids still want to know what the offensive identity will be. How will Gerry’s systems prepare them for a shot at the pros? Selling an unknown and untested product at the P5 level was always going to be the biggest disadvantage with this hire. The best thing he could do right now is find the best offensive assistant that is willing to come here.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Folefac is not worth 250k

If Folefac is slotted as being the backup 4/5 and plays 15 to 20 minutes a game and you are paying your starting big man close to one million, then he's a bargain at $250K.

 

[Blanko97]

If Folefac is slotted as being the backup 4/5 and plays 15 to 20 minutes a game and you are paying your starting big man close to one million, then he's a bargain at $250K.

He shouldn’t be that though, maybe your emergency big man.

 

[Orangezoo]

Folefac is not worth 250k

Folefac is a freshman at Siena with great size and strength as a bully ball reserve 4 at 6-7 245 with a frame to build more muscle.

He has nice footwork he’s added, he’s a very solid defender who has been used to guard various other teams’ best player. He also showed off he has a decent looking outside shot to keep teams honest and be able to hit it on occasion. We all saw him defend a top 5 pick about as well as anyone has for stretches against Duke.

Now he’s still a bottom of the rotation guy at best as he matures from a 6-7 frosh at a MAAC school but to not see what this kid can bring and the potential is being too focused on where he played vs his game. He has every bit the tools and size to be another Omier type player as well as a modern day version of Otis Hill as he keeps improving ( that’s a potential reference not a now reference) . There is a lot of value there given the experience he’s had already playing in the NCAAT against Duke after being thrust into a bigger role.

I will just add that it’s a big summer for any of the returning kids, Siena kids and the new blood we will have. We’ve watched Red and his staff have kids regress or not improve their games. That I am confident will change with Gerry at the helm. So I think as it pertains to Doty and Folefac there are trust issues we have as a fanbase that are fair. Let’s see what he brings in and see how much these guys improve.

 

[Marsh01]

Here is what is going to happen.

Noone knows what the effff is going to happen. Good god let this just play out. All this speculation is ridiculous.

Noone here has a say in anything that will happen with this team.

 

[djorange1989]

Here is what is going to happen.

Noone knows what the effff is going to happen. Good god let this just play out. All this speculation is ridiculous.

Noone here has a say in anything that will happen with this team.

So what you’re saying is Gerry is going to retain everyone, bring in three Siena guys and roll with that? This is the worst roster ever!!!!

 

[HyattsCuse]

Here is what is going to happen.

Noone knows what the effff is going to happen. Good god let this just play out. All this speculation is ridiculous.

Noone here has a say in anything that will happen with this team.

At this point, I tend to agree with this.

Talking about how much players will cost: we have no clue what the market is going to look like with a) who will be available and b) how much NIL they will command and the market is willing to pay.

I’m glad we’ll have a lot more NIL reserves from the sounds of it, but we didn’t all of a sudden turn into the LA Dodgers and can buy whoever we want. This also isn’t EBay where the player goes to the highest bidder.

Can only talk so much about potential ‘Cuse players returning and suspected Siena guys portaling to ‘Cuse.

We are in wait and see mode until the portal opens or at least until more guys announce their intentions to portal. Looking forward to it!

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Eh it’s more that people are just being civil about things on here while still being incredibly pissed off about this hire. Not against Gerry just in that there was a strong expectation we would move away from former SU coaches and it’s hard to have an ounce of faith in anything around the program no matter what anyone says until there’s real proof it was a good call. It’s fair game and reasonable given how much being an SU fan has sucked of late. I can’t blame anyone for locking onto all things that might point to further disappointment at this juncture.

As I have gone through the posts, I think this happened (I might be incorrect in some places): Hodgson was the early choice, but either he was crossed off for his remarks to Trey (I’m okay with that. The MBB coach at SU is the public face of the University), or a bad interview and or JB interference. Shertz took himself out early. ADBB brought him back in, and evidently there was an agreement in place, until a whale swooped in to keep him there. Now, what do you do from there? Do you keep going down the list, to lesser choices and ignore what Gerry has done?
Gerry was told not now kid, we’re following form and taking the next in line. Go out, prove yourself. He did. Someone posted Hodgson’ resume here. Gerry’s is pretty comparable.
Lastly, as the head of the biggest entertainment organization north on NYC and west of Buffalo, you have to listen a bit to your audience. As far as that goes, GMac was the best hire left on the table. Then, ADBB has to consider NIL. So far, GMac has (seemingly) crushed that end of it.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Folefac is not worth 250k

How do you come up with that. Seems like minimum wage

 

[Irishsecra1]

That's more than I would pay for a kid unlikely to see minutes his first year at SU. But that's just me.

I would be shocked if Moesch isn't the backup point guard.
I think people underestimate this kid.
I fully expect GMAC to prioritize getting an experienced point guard in the portal to run the offense.

Both Doty and Folefac were not highly recruited. He had been recruiting Doty since he first came to an SU basketball camp. Not sure how he heard about Folefac as he is from Maryland.
And both were first team all freshman MAAC.

GMAC is a good talent evaluator and prioritizes the intangibles - work ethic, coachability and drive to win.

 

[SUFan44]

I would be shocked if Moesch isn't the backup point guard.
I think people underestimate this kid.
I fully expect GMAC to prioritize getting an experienced point guard in the portal to run the offense.

Both Doty and Folefac were not highly recruited. He had been recruiting Doty since he first came to an SU basketball camp. Not sure how he heard about Folefac as he is from Maryland.
And both were first team all freshman MAAC.

GMAC is a good talent evaluator and prioritizes the intangibles - work ethic, coachability and drive to win.

Folefac is from the same area as Arinze Onuaku. I am sure that played a part.

I think having a backup point guard that is a freshman is risky.

That said, if he's good, he's good. Looks like he has some substance offensively. Just worry about his ability to defend at the highest level.

 

[CU44SE]

Everyone’s only answer is money. But as others have pointed out it’s more than money sometimes. What if you and another team are offing the same amount of money to a player. You still need guys to close and sell him on a vision.

Look at Kentucky, richest roster in the country and that didn’t do anything.

Look at football. We have a fabulous recruiter in Fran who makes connections and gets players for lesser money.

Money is not and should not be the only equation here. You still need someone to have the contacts, build a bond, and close the deal.

Edit: Not every player we get it’s going to be because we are the highest bidder. Look at the kid from Michigan. Kentucky offered him 2 million more dollars than Michigan but he went to Michigan.

 

[Newhouser]

I wonder if Folefac comes to be 8th man. Maybe one more year at Siena in a bigger role, and test the waters again. I do think Moesch is coming as a PG in training and change of pace energy guy.

 

[ForCuseSake]

As I have gone through the posts, I think this happened (I might be incorrect in some places): Hodgson was the early choice, but either he was crossed off for his remarks to Trey (I’m okay with that. The MBB coach at SU is the public face of the University), or a bad interview and or JB interference. Shertz took himself out early. ADBB brought him back in, and evidently there was an agreement in place, until a whale swooped in to keep him there. Now, what do you do from there? Do you keep going down the list, to lesser choices and ignore what Gerry has done?
Gerry was told not now kid, we’re following form and taking the next in line. Go out, prove yourself. He did. Someone posted Hodgson’ resume here. Gerry’s is pretty comparable.
Lastly, as the head of the biggest entertainment organization north on NYC and west of Buffalo, you have to listen a bit to your audience. As far as that goes, GMac was the best hire left on the table. Then, ADBB has to consider NIL. So far, GMac has (seemingly) crushed that end of it.

East of Buffalo, Capt.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Folefac is not worth 250k

He’s probably getting paid that now at Siena. Salaries have exploded across the board.

 

[RF2044]

to the Cuse. I am sure of AO. Gerry just thinks he is a great big man coach. I have
to think Ryan Blackwell comes along as well. Don't forget, Ryan coached pros in
Japan and was successful as a high school coach.
As for players, I would bet there would be three and only three. Gavin Doty of
course. Francis Folefac and Ryan Moesch.

Those three transfers make a lot of sense. I rewatched the Duke / Siena game the other day, and Folefac reminds me of a maybe not quite as good Jayre Davis, but similar. He can play here as a depth piece.

And you can never have enough players. Very interested to see what we do with the portal.

Moesch seems like a guy who could pan out. I liked that he went to a prep school and was successful, instead of staying at a smaller, local program where the level of competition wasn't as good. Will be interesting to see how things pan out.

 

[Jasoncuse]

If Folefac is slotted as being the backup 4/5 and plays 15 to 20 minutes a game and you are paying your starting big man close to one million, then he's a bargain at $250K.

He cannot be a backup 5 at this level. Listed at 6'7", he looks like he's maybe 6'5", or 6'6" if he's lucky. We can't expect that to be our backup 5 and need some legit size.

 

[Orangezoo]

Those three transfers make a lot of sense. I rewatched the Duke / Siena game the other day, and Folefac reminds me of a maybe not quite as good Jayre Davis, but similar. He can play here as a depth piece.

And you can never have enough players. Very interested to see what we do with the portal.

Moesch seems like a guy who could pan out. I liked that he went to a prep school and was successful, instead of staying at a smaller, local program where the level of competition wasn't as good. Will be interesting to see how things pan out.

Unlike Jyare he will get a chance to develop at this level vs only getting a year. Also Jyare was like 220 just a muscular dude and think Folefac can easily play at a lean 240-250.

Doty has to be a more reliable shooter and add some more good weight so his game is more attack the rim and hit the 3 while continuing to be a good rebounder and defender as a wing.

 

[Blanko97]

He’s probably getting paid that now at Siena. Salaries have exploded across the board.

An unrated recruit whose second best offer was UMBC? Not a chance he’s making 250k and if he is then Siena were suckers, because no one else was paying that

 

[BronsonCuse]

How we do in the portal will let us know how much $$ we actually have to work with. Im hopeful its a solid amount. There's also little upside to trumpeting exactly how much $$ you have bc you lose leverage negotiating I would imagine. Let's see how this plays out. My biggest indicator will be what big man talent we can attract. If we are swimming with sharks there I think we have more than enough to be competitive.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Saints Ink Parrish Edmond, Jr. - Siena University Athletics

Siena Basketball Head Coach Gerry McNamara has announced his second official commitment to the Saints incoming recruiting class. Parrish Edmond, Jr., a 6-7, 190-pound

sienasaints.com

This is another one of his Siena recruits. No clue if he might want to bring him as well.

 

[dasher]

I changed it for you. Don't forget that Cuse is not competing with just ACC schools, but also competing against the SEC, the B1G, and the Big 12.

As sad as it is to say, $12 Million (if that's the number) only goes so far.

People are writing down Dylan Mingo's name like Cuse is the only school out there. But Cuse is also competing with other programs that have a $20 million, or more, war chest.

It's a dog eat dog world and hopefully GMAC is able to bring enough milk bones to the table.

There are very few schools that have 20 million. Yes, a few, but not many

 

[dasher]

9.3 after Giving Day.

I'm not so sure that any of the giving day money goes to NiL